If Kira and Lacus had a child without having his genes manipulated, would he be classified as a Natural or a Coordinator? Both Kira and Lacus are Coordinators, so would a child of natural birth to Coordinator parents be considered a Coordinator, or does he have to undergo gene manipulation in order to be considered a Coordinator?

Also, didn't the PLANTs have a rule about matching certain people's genes in order to have children? So what if Kira and Lacus' genes don't match, would they even be able to have children?

And what about Cagalli and Athrun? One is a Natural, one is Coordinator, so if their child does get her genes manipulated, would she be considered first generation (Cagalli's side) Coordinator, or third generation (from Athrun's side)?

I would say that a child of two Coordinators is a Coordinator. The deciding factor here is the gene manipulation away from the "norm." It's not necessarily manipulation at birth.

For Kira and Lacus specifically I don't think they would have a problem. With the whole "Ultimate Coordinator" thing going on I somehow think that Kira would be compatible with anyone.

Cagalli and Athrun. That's a tough one. I would say not a first since one of the parents is already a coordinator. Beyond that I don't know. They didn't go much into the conventions.

I think the child would be considered a natural because genetic enhancements is the distinguishing factor between naturals and coordinators.However, that does not mean that the child would not inherit some of modified traits from their parents.

I haven't heard of this rule of matching genes, so I can't help you there.

If Athrun and Cagalli had a child, it would probably be considered a natural with coordinator traits.

The child would be a coordinator. Lacus is a second or third generation coordinator, since her father is one. Kira, on the other hand, is a first generation coordinator, since both his parents are naturals. Coordinators are humans with the enhanced genes, since genes are inherited traits, a child of 2 or 1 coordinators would inherit the modified genes.

I don't know about this rule in the PLANTs. Is is the one that caused Talia and the Chairman to separate? Even then, I don't know much about this. But I don't think they would have any problem, after all, Kira is a from ORB. So maybe this rule will not apply to them.

As for Cagalli and Athrun, if they have a child, all I can say is that it would be considered a coordinator.

The rule actually comes from the first series. Even while controlling the marriages the third generation wasn't producing much in the way of offspring. And yes, that's why Talia and the Chairman couldn't marry. Talia wanted children.

I see, I don't remember much of the first series. So you mean that the marriages were controlled because of the infertility?

Quote by spiritswordI see, I don't remember much of the first series. So you mean that the marriages were controlled because of the infertility?

I think so. I think Lacus mentioned it in her broadcast (in phase 41 I think) that they were having problems with third-generation Coordinators, and Zala was saying how they'd eventually solve it or something.

That's how I understand the rules. In Destiny, when Talia left, she said "I want to have a child, that's why I'll follow the rules of PLANT" before leaving with her husband. Then we see Gil pondering about destiny and how he and Talia weren't meant to be (which I'm assuming that they can't have children, though it never explicitly states that).

merged: 07-12-2006 ~ 11:14pm

Quote by KanedaMuyoI would say that a child of two Coordinators is a Coordinator. The deciding factor here is the gene manipulation away from the "norm." It's not necessarily manipulation at birth.

So... one doesn't neccessarily have to have their genes manipulated at birth to be considered a Coordinator? So then I guess that'd make Athrun and Cagalli's child a Coordinator too.

But then where do Newtypes fit in this? Even though it's not explicitly stated in the series, I understand that Newtypes are Naturals with naturally enhanced genes (via evolution). So are they considered Coordinators too since their genes aren't "normal"?

This is an AU (alternate universe). The newtypes only exist in the main universe. Wing is another AU. The main universe has all the 0083 type series. Actually I think the Archangel is based off of the old White Base from 0079? I could be wrong. And they used the same core fighter technology as the impulse.

for Athrun+Cagalli's baby, wouldn't their child be depended on whether Coordinator-gene is dominant or recessive to the Natural-genes?

and [quoet]would she be considered first generation (Cagalli's side) Coordinator, or third generation (from Athrun's side)?

i guess the baby could be consider 2nd generation to average it out? XP

Quote by KanedaMuyoThis is an AU (alternate universe). The newtypes only exist in the main universe. Wing is another AU. The main universe has all the 0083 type series. Actually I think the Archangel is based off of the old White Base from 0079? I could be wrong. And they used the same core fighter technology as the impulse.

well, when I said "Newtypes", I was referring to Mwu La Flaga and Rau Le Creuset. Although it's never been specified in the series itself, that's the genetic type given to them... I think they're supposed to be Naturals who developed superior senses through natural evolution or something. So since their genes are abnormal, does that make them Coordinators? Same question applies to clones like Rey and Rau...

For Athrun and Cagalli's, I thought about the extended...a natural with coordinator abilities.

Quote by RikaxMishimaFor Athrun and Cagalli's, I thought about the extended...a natural with coordinator abilities.

I thought the Extended have their abilities manipulated via pretty cruel methods and experiements... like having something done to their brains instead of their genes or something...

Wait, I think all of you forgot something... Cagalli is a Coordinator as well, right? She does go into "seed" mode in the last episode when she was on Strike Rouge. Even tho she was born the "natural" way, it doesn't mean she wasn't manipulated as an embryo.

well kira and lacus most likely if they had a child, it would probably be naturally born but you never know. after for the classification thing, well kira and lacus wouldnt follow that, they believe that life is born not modified or manipulated. which once again leads me to believe that if they did have child it would definitely be a natural but probably have some short of special abilities since Kira is the ultimate coordinator and he is also a newtype