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Is Naruto related to the 4th Hokage?

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there is no evidences that naruto is the fourth's son but if the full story/movie is released we will know the truth!

um... does anyone really care?

from what i think Naruto is the 4th's son they look very much alike

I think so because in the 1st episode he looks just like him. and doesn't it seem werid that his parents dissappear as soon as the fox demon did i'll bet it was the 4th hokage who sealed the demon in Naruto.

ok tell me sumthing who named him naruto it has 2 be his dad and its the 4th and that other guy narutos friend the hokage the 3rd y is that huh it like skips a hokage and goes bak and den tsunade didnt she say shes hokage hum

My theory is that the 4th is his dad cause they have the same hair and the same personality cause if you pay attetion in the show they the same things about Naruto just like the 4th.

there is one thing that I don' t understand yondaime is the 4th hokage and he died really son in the fight against the kyiubi (9 tailed demon fox). Well this happens before the beginning of the naruto manga and anime. but the 3rd hokage (sandaime) is still living and is of course in the beginning of naruto the current hokage. So first I thought every time a hokage dies, a new one is elected. But at the time yondaime was still living, then there must have been 2 hokages @ the same time or am I wrong? why did yondaime become the 4th hokage while the 3rd hokage was still living? that is another fact that lets me believe 2 things: yondaime must still have been living after the fight with the nine tails and he left the village, or another fact to reinforce my theory that naruto is the 4 th. actually tsunade is the 5 th hokage (godaime). Is it possible she' s been elected because naruto is too young to be hokage or because yondaime is absent for the moment. well think about it...
I hope we will see very soon naruto' s new jutsu... and I hope he might discover a blood line limit jutsu in himself

well i think rasengan probably is 1 of those clues cuz it said he mastered it in 3 days i think it said correct me if im wrong

new reports from the last manga chapter (321). Kakashi says that that he thinks naruto is able to surpass the 4th, so I end here my thoughts about naruto being the 4th himself. Probably they' re related but they aren' t the same person. Naruto has to fusion chakra form manipulation with chakra nature manipulation to complete the rasengan. For those who haven' t read the latest manga yet, kakashi says that the rasengan is just a chakra form manipulation justsu pushed on the highest possible level and the intention of yondaime was to make fusion form with nature but even him couldnt' t complete this S- or higher leveled jutsu and naruto is probably one of the few (or the only one) who can achieve it.

i think it would be more interesting if yondaime was naruto's older brother.
sasuke has itachi, so naruto may have yondaime.

Quote by akaiBelow are just a couple of reasons why I think Naruto might be the 4th Hokage himself. They are just MY SPECULATIONS on the topic based on what I've gathered from the story so far, so don't take them too seriously. LoL.

1. Incredible resemblence.
Blue iris, yellow hair, similar personalities (Jiraiya and gamabunta commented on this before) and so on...

2. The only "two" persons directly and very closely involved in the battle 14 years back.
No evidence showed that the 4th Hokage died in the battle (Discussed in my 4th point).
No one else really know what happened in the fight.
"The villagers said 4th died in the battle..."
"The other ninjas said 4th died in the performing the deadly jutsu...."
<-- All these are from third parties who weren't at the battle scene.

3. Peforming the same jutsu as the 4th did in his "final battle", the 3rd Hokage sealed the opponent's (Orochimaru's) soul in his own body. Their souls intermingled, and were consumed by the "Death god" together. Therefore, the summoner and the opponent should perished together. <-- So if that is how the jutsu should work, then when the 4th Hokage summoned the "Death god", Kyuubi should be sealed inside the summoner's (4th Hokage's) body, where both the souls be consumed by the "Death god" together. But apparently, Kyuubi's soul still lives so perhaps the 4th Hokage's soul wasn't totally destroyed either. This explains why Naruto might be the 4th Hokage since Kyuubi is in his body.

4. There isn't any concrete evidence in the story that actually proves that the 4th Hokage is already dead. They never showed us his grave, his dead body after the battle or anything like that. The only one incident that is closest in giving us an answer to whether 4th is dead or alive was when Orochimaru summoned the 1st and the 2nd Hokage. Orochimaru wanted to summon the 4th Hokage too, but before he could do that, he was stopped by the 3rd Hokage.
(a) Of course, if the 4th Hokage was already dead, summoning his soul then wouldn't be a problem (if he hadn't been stopped).
(b) But if the 4th Hokage isn't dead (meaning his soul is living in another physical body), there's no way the summon would work because his soul was not in the underworld.
However, since Orochimaru wasn't even given the chance to completely perform the jutsu on the 4th Hokage, we'll never know the answer from here. (LoL)

There are some others points which I can hardly remember since the last time anyone discussed about this topic was so long ago. :P The one thing that opposes the above theory and I can't explain is... "How did the 4th Hokage shrink and become a baby?!?!" LoL, but i thought isn't asking that question almost like asking "how can a rotting piece of log turn into a human clone?!?!" (in kawarimi no jutsu)

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Other Theories:
1. Naruto is 4th Hokage's reincarnation?
Reincarnation means to die in a lifetime and then be reborn in the next. This is highly impossible.
(a) He can't reincarnate so fast.
(b) Secondly, a baby can't be born just from outta nowhere. Unless there is a pregnant mother at the battle scene waiting for her child to be born. What's she doing in the deep forest? O.o?

2. Naruto is 4th Hokage's son?
(a) I don't know why a father should carry his baby son with him in a battle, unless he had everything planned before the battle and knew he would use that jutsu to seal Kyuubi's soul inside his baby (that is if you are even convinced that it is possible for the summoner to seal the opponent's soul in a third party body).
(b) If the summoner knew he was gonna die anyway after performing that jutsu, why don't he just die together with Kyuubi. I mean, there's no reason why he should get an innocent baby involved. O.o? Losing 2 lives is better than losing 3.

3. Naruto is just a random, unlucky baby the 4th Hokage found at the battle scene?
Same explantion as 2(b)


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The above are just speculations. No one knows the answer. The author hasn't revealed the truth yet. Anyway, I doubt the author will give us the answer to this mystery. So, happy guessing.

I like the idea that he's just a random baby... it would make sense with naruto just being born and found in some village where the fight was taking place.... though how he appears in an alter like gaara is puzzling so maybe the 4th did plan it out and used his baby.... though i think it would be too much of a coincidence if the 4th's child was just born coincidently when the demon-fox was on a rampage in the fire country...
naruto probably some dead women's unborn child but to save his life doctors cut him out

Though everyone thinks that Yondaime is Naruto's father, there is no

actual proof that he is ^_^'

But we can keep on dreaming I suppose :D :D

well akai that\' s exactly what I was talking about a fiew topics earlier. We could compare sasuke and Itatchi to naruto and yondaime (in english the 4th) But I can also compare naruto to gaara. that would make sense too. Gaara was a container for the junchikuri (demon racoon of the sand). who seeled it into him? his father the kazekage of the hidden sand village. why? cause he wanted to make him the masterpiece of the village. therefrom, it could also be that naruto was the hokage\' s son (4th hokage) and the 4th hokage wanted naruto to become a masterpiece too. but in fact I think the sasuke -itatchi and naruto-yondaime theory fits better. could it be that yondaime is the leader of akatsuki? sasuke is hunting his brother and probably naruto will hunt his brother (yondaime) too?!?! that would bring naruto and sasuke together again against the same enemy (akatsuki). well we do not know the real intentions of akatsuki yet. probably they try to grow stronger to fight a great threat or something like that. But finally even I don\'t think that yondaime is the brother of naruto because of his age: remember: yondaime was the pupil of jiraiya, kakashi was the pupil of yondaime and naruto was the pupil of kakashi. I think that\' s a generation too much for naruto to be the brother of yondaime. I guess when you consider the age and the generations, yondaime might be his father. or naruto is yondaime. Probably yondaime used a forbidden jutsu to turn back to a baby and by using this jutsu he freed an evil part of himself who became the leader of akatsuki (look to his shadow, it might fit to yondaime) hehe speculations on and on and on

I think the Fourth and Naruto are related... my friend told me some story about how Naruto, the 4th, and the Akatsuki leader we're all related, but I made no sense whatsoever... had something to do with Naruto's brother, Naruto's dad, Naruto, some dude dying, some dude running away... and other things I can't remember... o_o;;

Apparently, the 4th is Naruto's father. And i heard from somewhere that he isn't as big of a hero as everyone descirbed him to be. According to the rumour i heard: the 4th was obsessed with dark., powerful jitsu. The peoeple wasn't very approved of it, but since the 4th was planning to practice it for the good of the village they overlooked it. Then the 4th finally brought danger upon the village by angered the nine-tail. He sealed it in his son's (naruto) body, and sacrificed himself. the people forgive him because of the sacrifice he did, but they kind of channelled the anger to naruto.
Anyway, it was something i heard online... not necessarily true. But it's possible~~

lately I don' t think that yondaime is the leader of akatsuki. At the time konoha needed a 4 th hokage, sarutobi the sandaime (3 rd hokage) choosed "yondaime" to be the 4th. That' s why orochimaru wants so much to destroy konoha and wanted to kill sarutobi. (these are all facts said in the fight between sarutobi and orochimaru). So we can also make the conclusion that orochimaru hates yondaime. But orochimaru himselft was in akatsuki, so I don' t think that he would recieve orders from someone he hates, even if it was to take the body of Itatchi. and there is no doubt about the skills of yondaime. Even Jiraiya praised him by saying that noone was as talented as him and that he was the best ninja of konoha. In the manga it is also said by kakashi that yondaime was a very nice and attentioned person who tried to help as good as he could. Noone used to know him better than Jiraiya (his teacher) and kakashi (his pupil). well obito too but he' s dead ^^. I think we have to wait for some details about what akatsuki is planing so we can make more conclusions. But finally, they are so many secrets about yondaime that I think we' ll get surprised in some way. even from the latest anime 202-204 that Sarutobi (the third) also has some dark sides

Ok, here are reasons why the fourth is related to Naruto:

Facts:
*Yondaime's real name is Uzumaki Arashi while Naruto's full name is Uzumaki Naruto
*Both are blonde, has blue iris, and some features
*Both are Jiraiya's subordinates

Theories:
*Yondaime is believed to be the Akatsuki leader, that's why he sealed the kyuubi to Naruto and wants it back.
*Some people said that Naruto is Yondaime, while others said that he has a connection to a hidden rock village lady but thier love is forbidden, so Naruto's birth was a sign of thier love

Hope that helps

^_^'

I don' t believe that you can read on the summoning contract scroll "uzumaki arashi". Well it' s well known that yondaime had a contract with the frogs too but even in high resolution you can' t read the third name on that scroll. Don' t you believe naruto would have started asking questions about this uzumaki arashi? naruto doesn' t know his parents. and So I believe there must be another name on the scroll. Probably Uzumaki is not naruto' s real surname. That all would have been a little bit too easy to discover

U know what? I first heard from my friend that she thinks Naruto is the 4th Hokage's son because their hair colour are the same and no one in Naruto have the same hair colour. I find that extremely appalling. But after reading the other possible theories, i think Naruto being the 4th Hokage's son is the most likely and sensible one.

well if they are brothers they would talk more about there parentsand not keep it a secret! And to Yondaime being naruto's father that is probaly false since they would tell us !whats the point of the mystery

I believe that Uzumaki may be a clans name. The Uchiha clan, the Nara clan, the Hyuga clan. Why can't their be an Uzumaki clan. Perhaps the Yondaime was part of the Uzumaki clan. And just like the Uchiha clan, the Yondaime and Naruto were the only ones that survived, and the rest of the Uzumaki clan were killed. Then again maybe not...

well i think that yondaime is naruto's father. 1. becuase they look alike (hair colour, hair style etc.) 2. becuase i don't think that yondaime would just put the Kyuubi in any random child. 3. becuase they have never mentioned his last name or never talked about his wife or naruto's mom. well she did die right after she gave birth to him but.....

but i wonder why no one has thought that naruto is related to Yondime. I mean c'mon then hokage that died *cough*becuase of orochimaru*cough* wouldn't he have recongnised that naruto look like him. he might but never said n/e thing about it. But what about Kakashi? I mean Yondaime was his sensei for peets sake! i wonder when the episode will come when we finally no the truth about naruto's dad?......

we might not have to wait much longer bacuase on youtube there on episode like what? 200 somethin'? i dunno.......

well basically what i'm trying to say is that i think naruto is the son of Yondime A.K.A. The 4th Hokage.

-----Jojo A.K.A. dark-love

ok this lasted way to long lol.... for one the technique puts the soul within the user not a chosen medium. Also the death god eats the souls and thus kills the person. the kyubbi is immortal it can't die so what would happen with the medium or in this case the fourth's body? well for one it is seen that when the third uses it his body simply no longer has a soul. With an immortal soul what would happen? Only logical thing would be for the soul to inhabit a body. once the soul of the kyubbi was captured inside the fourth it combined with the fourths and was later pulled out by the death god. Incapable of being eaten the soul returned to the body yet this time it was the kyubbi's as well and so the "whiskers" on naruto's cheeks but not on the fourths. Alas my biggest point in the first episode when the story is told it is told by the third... that would mean that the thirds information would have to be 100% correct yet he didn't even see the technique untill he himself used it so how would he know since it is only the user and the one it is being used on who can see the death god. Also in the beginning when it showed naruto crying in a crib it never said anything about the soul being put in him.... we are assuming that it was for he seemed to be in some sort of seal and had a seal on his stomach. the third also never said that the kyubbi was sealed inside naruto he mearly said that the fourth sealed the kyubbi and died. well thats my point naruto cant be the son of the fourth. for one reason the technique is clear in that it seals it inside of the user and it was never said that the fox was sealed in a baby.... unless you regard to what the villagers said which cant be very valid since even they where prohibited to speak of what happened.

good theories i agree with the relations part and also agree that 4th isn't dead ever wonder who's the leader of the akatsuki? ........?

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