no, in my opinion mercy killings should not be legalise, but i have a question,
zokin-kun, would u really kill your friends if they wanted u to?, live a tragic
life knowing that u once killed your friend?
It really depends on the state of the person from my point of view, I mean, if
you have someone who is completely brain dead and didnt leave a will or anything
behind, its like mercy to kill them. Of course, there are people who would
object to that, but its one of thoes things that the general population cant
decide. The only people who should decide what to do are the people closest to
the person in question, like a relative or someone who knows the person well.
You can say that only God can decide this, but im not a christian or a believer
in any other religion (Athiest is what its called i believe) so im not going to
argue that point except that the issue is much like the issue of cloning and
such. It depends on the culture where you were brought up to decide these
things. Its just like how in some parts of the world, there are people who would
stir up a great funeral march for someone who died and isnt that famous, and
there are others who would feed the body to the birds. You cant say that either
is bad or disrespectfull, because you werent brought up in that culture so you
wouldnt understand the point of them doing so.
Im not saying that you should kill them either, because theres always the
"chance" of a miracle happening. Its not possible that every person
who is brain dead will suddenly rise to life again, and the possibility of
someone doing so is very slim. Of course, theres always the chance, but its not
high enough to actually worth mentioning. And science is always advancening, so
youll never know...
Toya999, if you killed your friends knowing that you are releasing them from
pain, why would you suffer a tragic life? I mean if I was the person who is/was
in a coma, I would want a friend to release me from the pain. I wouldnt hate
them or anything for doing so, as I understand why they are doing it.
Anything along these lines is really slippery though, there is a story I heard
in English class, and it went along the lines of a german doctor killing off the
most disabled patients at hospitals. At first it was like he was freeing the
people from pain, but he gradually got used to it to the point that he mass
killed jews during Hitler's reign. Its just one of those things that start out
as ok, but get worse depending on how people react.
merged: 11-01-2006 ~ 12:06pm
i think that it is wrong becuz of the fact that if you had a messed up leg and
someone wanted to kill you just because of that then I would be mad. How they
like it if we killed them just cuz of the face that they had blu eyes or a bum
leg, or evn if they acted liek a red-neck. THAT WOULD BE SOME MESSED UP STUFF!
^ I think you completely misunderstand the topic. Try reading it again.
Anyway, for my opinion, I agree with what seems to be the general consensus
here: a patient in a permanent vegetative state should be killed out of mercy.
However, I think obtaining consent from the patient's family is critical..even
if they don't want you to do it.
what? how do you kill someone out of mercy? when in battle you should never show
your enemy compassion for they will show you none. you must take every
opportunity to inflict damage upon the enemy. mercy should not be in your
vocabulary if you are killing.
^ another one who didn't understand the subject... we're talking about sick
people... those who have degenerative diseases that force them to rely on
someone else 24/7, those who can't survive without a respirator, those who are
in a vegetative state, etc. To kill them to stop their pain. It's not a war
situation, and those people are not your enemies.
I probably would feel really really bad if someone closed to me asked for it.
However, if it comes to the point when you don't have a good quality of life
anymore and that you have to rely on someone all the time only to do the
simplest things like eat, go to the bathroom, etc... Without counting the
hospital and health care bill that goes with it. Then I think I understand that
they would not want to keep on living that way. Personally, I wouldn't either.
I'm too proud a person for that.
I'd rather live with the pain of accepting a friend or family member's decision
than see him or her live in pain (or live without living if they're vegetative)
for the rest of their life.
So, I think it should be legalized. It would prevent those people from trying to
commit suicide in much more painful ways, or get someone else to do it for them.
Of course, there would have to be very high restrictions so that no one takes
advantage of it. Including for those who are in a vegetative state.
I think that it shouldn't be made completely illegal because if someone wouldn't
have wanted to live their life as a vegetable, than isn't it much more cruel to
force them? If someone is completely brain-dead, then they are effectively dead
and have the right to die if that's what they wished. Conversely, if someone had
really believed that they would rather remain as a vegetable forever, then no
one should force them to die.
reminds me of deathnote...
so was it okay for him to decide which criminals should be annihilated?
but then again...why are criminals criminals? i think it is society that made
them this way and then society will act all merciful and kill?
doesn't make sense...
but you are not God...so you should not pretend you know what goes on in every
person't mind and heart, then jusdge if he is better off dead..
that i know makes sense.
i feel that euthanasia should be legal under the circumstance that the
terminally-ill patient requested it out of his or her own will, when their
competent of making decisions, allowing such voluntary euthanasia can be seen as
the last resort option to relief the patient from the painful journey to
death.
involuntary euthanasia, in which the dying patient is incompetent of making his
or her decision (i.e. unable to express themself) should be prohibited, for no
other has the right to make such a decision for someone. and also because of the
great potential for social abuse, and something similar to that witness in
Germany, September 1939 when Hitler issued a secret order in which he ordered
the involuntary euthanasia of the incurably insane, the handicapped, and others
whom he viewed as useless to the society, might happen.
merged: 11-01-2006 ~ 12:06pm
i think that it is wrong becuz of the fact that if you had a messed up leg and
someone wanted to kill you just because of that then I would be mad. How they
like it if we killed them just cuz of the face that they had blu eyes or a bum
leg, or evn if they acted liek a red-neck. THAT WOULD BE SOME MESSED UP
STUFF!
that would be murder! for neither is the person terminally-ill, dying or
completely disabled...
Mercy killings or euthanasia would me unnecessary if people would specify to
family, friends, care giving physician, spouse, lawyer, etc. what their wishes
are concerning situations in which they would be unable to make a decision
concerning their life. I think it should be mandatory in the U.S. that
individuals age 18 and above should have a living will on file. This is for
situations concerning individuals that are considered brain dead.
Another form of mercy killing is asissted suicide. This case usually involves a
person who is in terrible pain and has a terminal illness. The person makes the
decision that they no longer want to live and they are given sometimes an
overdose of morphine to end their life. My concern with legalizing this form of
mercy killing is that we would than have to extend this same courtesy to
individuals with mental disorders who are in terrible emotional pain (mental
disorders are for the most part terminal). Should they have the right to
assisted suicide? My problem with this issue is, where do we draw the line. Is
it fair to grant some folks this privilege but not others?
u mean euthanasia right?
anyways..(this sounds like the million dollar baby movie)
I would agree on mercy killing but only if this conditions are applied
1. The person has no regrets in living and really wanna die (that means you have
the person's permission).
2. The person is in too much pain (mercy killing sort of helped them ease their
pain right?)
3. There are no loose ends.
true..it is against how precious life is but it's only when u have no choice
right? you're either a living zombie so you might as well be better off dead
when you'll know that you might die soon too (in some cases).
However, in the particular case you point, a person whose BRAIN IS DEAD, is
already a DEAD PERSON.
Then, the machines are running the body's basic functions. Generally, they keep
the person connected for a while to donate the organs. In this state, many
religions consider the soul has already abandoned the body.
It's not the same when a person is comatose, or as some say a
"vegetable". If the BRAIN is RUNNING at least some of the most basic
functions of the body, THE PERSON IS ALIVE. And he or she may come back from
that state.
A "vegetable", as some call people who don't have control of their
conscient functions, are not always as we see in movies or TV. Some ANSWER to
many EXTERNAL stimuluos. or may even be truly concient even as they can't
express themselves.
I'm not a doctor. The family bussiness is a "home care for the
disease" store and rental. I've seen people who are not exactly vegetables:
they answer to sound and people even as they are not 100% consciuos. Like a
baby.
Problem with euthanasia, is that YOU DON'T MAY KNOW WHEN SOMEONE JUST WANT TO
GET RID OF A PERSON.
In the bussiness, I've seen poor people making sacrificies to keep a relative
alive, while I talked once with a rich lady that just wanted to dump her brother
down the hole. Truly.
It's like last year's case of the lady of Florida, who was responsibe to
external stimulus (don't know if this is the rigth word in English), but it was
clear her husband just wanted the veredict to get rid of the wife.
Yes, there are cases where it isn't as easy to know what's good or bad, when
it's been enough or not. Like when is the same person who asks the euthanasia
for his/herself.
Maybe you can ask the one who would be mercy killed , but absolutely he or she
can't answer a word , maybe himself decide to be mercy killed .
To the living one , kill their relation would make them sad . But everyone will
die one day . So , why not look ahead ? Pain will be passing .
mercy killing should be allowed ...it's funny (or not so funny when you think of
it) that abortions are allowed and the babies are not "brain dead"
...they just didn't get in contact with the outside world
...no human wants to be stucked on the border of life and death ...it's like a
soul trapped in a 'dead body' (by dead body I mean a body that CAN'T get it's
living functions back to normal)
Yeah, but it's sooo an easy way to get rid of someone who maybe doesn't want to
be killed, but just understood and having company of relatives...
What would any of you feel if, with your brain still working, someone is going
to disconnect you for being a "ballast", or something that your
relatives don't want to see because you are something "uncomfortable"
to them? "Human garbage"?
Euthanasia: the perfect excuse for the perfect murder.
merged: 11-25-2006 ~ 11:50am
I know I promised good old tobias88 not to confront him, but hre there are a
couple of ideas that need to be comented. Anyway, I don't think he'll come back
around, since his post is weeks old. So, it's nothing personal against tobias88.
Just my point of view. And, shhhh! don't tell him!:)
Quote by tobiast88Those of you who
blather on about the "sanctity of life", how would you like to die for
years, eaten alive by cancer while every conceivable machine pumps your heart
and lungs, feeds you through needles, and catches your
waste?.
Well, if anyone paints the worst scenario... but generaly, in cancer you go
quicly. I had a grandmother, an uncle and an aunt that died of cancer (she was a
nun)... none of them chosed that path.
A friend of the family if about to go, as his own father did... but he's the
father of teens, and he sets an example of valor and moral... because he
believes in the "sanctity of life", so despised by many. And he
doesn't want any of their childs to commit suicidie when they confront a
difficultty in life.
Another friend, who died at 25, married a year before his dead. Not because he
wanted, he told his girlfriend to turn her back and go find happiness elsewhere,
with any other. But she insisted, because she LOVED him. And took care of him
all that last year... And I'm sure he died happy, because she offered him LOVE,
not a siringe with poison.
She was the one who truly suffered... what a brave girl.
It's an interesting turn... why not offer LIFE instead of death?
Quote by tobiast88Spending years in
considerable pain, even through a drugged haze, is not a pleasant option. It's
your decision, you may articulate it, but dying quickly and peacefully on your
own decision should be legal, as is suicide.
Suicide is not legal. As far as I know, a police officer or firefigther in any
country will try to save a suicide. If anyone is thinking that suicide is an
undeniable rigth, better be carefull, please... and talk with someone you trust.
He/she may be thinking on actually doing it.
I'm not writing this from a Church while singing the Allelulla, away from the
real world. As I have told dear babyLemon on other thread, I have have had my
share of both physical and mental challenges. Really painfull, really hard to
crawil back.
And a cousin, in the same situation, chose to kill himself. I don't despise him,
I UNDERSTAND HIM. That frigthens me a lot. I pray for his soul because I know he
did it in a moment of despair, as I have had. And will have (it's geneticall).
I'm a believer, but I don't think he condemned himself. But of course, HE CHOSE
THE WRONG PATH, BECAUSE HE MIGTH HAD 1% OF CHANCE OF BEING HAPPY. But now he's
100% dead.
For brain dead people etc.: If they really did expressedly say they want to be
killed under these circumstances, then you should honour their decision, it was
their choice - if they have made this decision, then they have already thought
about their life after becoming brain dead, even if its not as bad as they
thought it was for them, they already made up their mind after thinking about it
before hand.
For euthanasia (without brain damage): No, if they want to die, let them kill
themselves, & if they don't have the courage to kill themselves, then they
shouldn't put the guilt of their death on your hands.
I'd want someone to kill me if my body was no longer functioning... If I'm going
to be braindead I'd rather be all dead.
But only if I've been a vegetable for more than a year.
I think it really depends on the individual person to decide, but if they can't,
then no.
Some people don't understand that when the time comes they should just let go of
their loved ones.
It's like they try to drag them back from that tunnel of light ...and no one
likes to be dragged back from there, yet alone be trapped in a unfunctioning
body.
The more technology and science advances we will like to play God more and more
until... something bad happens.
I agree with starfixxer-san..Humans are starting to like to play God,reading all
the post everytime someone posted,makes me realises that everyone has their own
opinion and understanding the situation well...I notice some talked about those
who are not brain dead but immobalize,there is a disease call spiralcerebullar
degeneration,which involves in the sudden shrinking of the cerebellum..I
recently watch this show called,'1 litre of tears' that talk about a girl of the
age of 15 who was infected with the disease,this is a true story.I really thank
you all of you for answering because my knowledge and thinking has really
widen,I thank you...I hope you would look at the show I said earlier..it's
really touching..ONce again,Thank you.
no, in my opinion mercy killings should not be legalise, but i have a question, zokin-kun, would u really kill your friends if they wanted u to?, live a tragic life knowing that u once killed your friend?
quite the topic...
It really depends on the state of the person from my point of view, I mean, if you have someone who is completely brain dead and didnt leave a will or anything behind, its like mercy to kill them. Of course, there are people who would object to that, but its one of thoes things that the general population cant decide. The only people who should decide what to do are the people closest to the person in question, like a relative or someone who knows the person well.
You can say that only God can decide this, but im not a christian or a believer in any other religion (Athiest is what its called i believe) so im not going to argue that point except that the issue is much like the issue of cloning and such. It depends on the culture where you were brought up to decide these things. Its just like how in some parts of the world, there are people who would stir up a great funeral march for someone who died and isnt that famous, and there are others who would feed the body to the birds. You cant say that either is bad or disrespectfull, because you werent brought up in that culture so you wouldnt understand the point of them doing so.
Im not saying that you should kill them either, because theres always the "chance" of a miracle happening. Its not possible that every person who is brain dead will suddenly rise to life again, and the possibility of someone doing so is very slim. Of course, theres always the chance, but its not high enough to actually worth mentioning. And science is always advancening, so youll never know...
Toya999, if you killed your friends knowing that you are releasing them from pain, why would you suffer a tragic life? I mean if I was the person who is/was in a coma, I would want a friend to release me from the pain. I wouldnt hate them or anything for doing so, as I understand why they are doing it.
Anything along these lines is really slippery though, there is a story I heard in English class, and it went along the lines of a german doctor killing off the most disabled patients at hospitals. At first it was like he was freeing the people from pain, but he gradually got used to it to the point that he mass killed jews during Hitler's reign. Its just one of those things that start out as ok, but get worse depending on how people react.
i think it's WRONG!
merged: 11-01-2006 ~ 12:06pm
i think that it is wrong becuz of the fact that if you had a messed up leg and someone wanted to kill you just because of that then I would be mad. How they like it if we killed them just cuz of the face that they had blu eyes or a bum leg, or evn if they acted liek a red-neck. THAT WOULD BE SOME MESSED UP STUFF!
^ I think you completely misunderstand the topic. Try reading it again.
Anyway, for my opinion, I agree with what seems to be the general consensus here: a patient in a permanent vegetative state should be killed out of mercy. However, I think obtaining consent from the patient's family is critical..even if they don't want you to do it.
what? how do you kill someone out of mercy? when in battle you should never show your enemy compassion for they will show you none. you must take every opportunity to inflict damage upon the enemy. mercy should not be in your vocabulary if you are killing.
^ another one who didn't understand the subject... we're talking about sick people... those who have degenerative diseases that force them to rely on someone else 24/7, those who can't survive without a respirator, those who are in a vegetative state, etc. To kill them to stop their pain. It's not a war situation, and those people are not your enemies.
I probably would feel really really bad if someone closed to me asked for it. However, if it comes to the point when you don't have a good quality of life anymore and that you have to rely on someone all the time only to do the simplest things like eat, go to the bathroom, etc... Without counting the hospital and health care bill that goes with it. Then I think I understand that they would not want to keep on living that way. Personally, I wouldn't either. I'm too proud a person for that.
I'd rather live with the pain of accepting a friend or family member's decision than see him or her live in pain (or live without living if they're vegetative) for the rest of their life.
So, I think it should be legalized. It would prevent those people from trying to commit suicide in much more painful ways, or get someone else to do it for them. Of course, there would have to be very high restrictions so that no one takes advantage of it. Including for those who are in a vegetative state.
I think that it shouldn't be made completely illegal because if someone wouldn't have wanted to live their life as a vegetable, than isn't it much more cruel to force them? If someone is completely brain-dead, then they are effectively dead and have the right to die if that's what they wished. Conversely, if someone had really believed that they would rather remain as a vegetable forever, then no one should force them to die.
reminds me of deathnote...
so was it okay for him to decide which criminals should be annihilated?
but then again...why are criminals criminals? i think it is society that made them this way and then society will act all merciful and kill?
doesn't make sense...
but you are not God...so you should not pretend you know what goes on in every person't mind and heart, then jusdge if he is better off dead..
that i know makes sense.
i feel that euthanasia should be legal under the circumstance that the terminally-ill patient requested it out of his or her own will, when their competent of making decisions, allowing such voluntary euthanasia can be seen as the last resort option to relief the patient from the painful journey to death.
involuntary euthanasia, in which the dying patient is incompetent of making his or her decision (i.e. unable to express themself) should be prohibited, for no other has the right to make such a decision for someone. and also because of the great potential for social abuse, and something similar to that witness in Germany, September 1939 when Hitler issued a secret order in which he ordered the involuntary euthanasia of the incurably insane, the handicapped, and others whom he viewed as useless to the society, might happen.
merged: 11-05-2006 ~ 01:48pm
that would be murder! for neither is the person terminally-ill, dying or completely disabled...
So true, people need to be tormented to insanity before they die a horrible painful death. Why should somebody get off the hook the easy way.
But you have a point there brainless living vegetables keep the organs fresh a bright future indeed.
Yes, if the person wants it.
only if it is necessary or if someone is dying in exreme pain ........but other wise no it should not be even seen as an alternative
Mercy killings or euthanasia would me unnecessary if people would specify to family, friends, care giving physician, spouse, lawyer, etc. what their wishes are concerning situations in which they would be unable to make a decision concerning their life. I think it should be mandatory in the U.S. that individuals age 18 and above should have a living will on file. This is for situations concerning individuals that are considered brain dead.
Another form of mercy killing is asissted suicide. This case usually involves a person who is in terrible pain and has a terminal illness. The person makes the decision that they no longer want to live and they are given sometimes an overdose of morphine to end their life. My concern with legalizing this form of mercy killing is that we would than have to extend this same courtesy to individuals with mental disorders who are in terrible emotional pain (mental disorders are for the most part terminal). Should they have the right to assisted suicide? My problem with this issue is, where do we draw the line. Is it fair to grant some folks this privilege but not others?
u mean euthanasia right?
anyways..(this sounds like the million dollar baby movie)
I would agree on mercy killing but only if this conditions are applied
1. The person has no regrets in living and really wanna die (that means you have the person's permission).
2. The person is in too much pain (mercy killing sort of helped them ease their pain right?)
3. There are no loose ends.
true..it is against how precious life is but it's only when u have no choice right? you're either a living zombie so you might as well be better off dead when you'll know that you might die soon too (in some cases).
If people who want to die are too chickenshit to kill themselves, they don't deserve the magical gift of death.
It depends....
If they arent living without equipment IMO
I'm against mercy killing and euthanasia.
However, in the particular case you point, a person whose BRAIN IS DEAD, is already a DEAD PERSON.
Then, the machines are running the body's basic functions. Generally, they keep the person connected for a while to donate the organs. In this state, many religions consider the soul has already abandoned the body.
It's not the same when a person is comatose, or as some say a "vegetable". If the BRAIN is RUNNING at least some of the most basic functions of the body, THE PERSON IS ALIVE. And he or she may come back from that state.
A "vegetable", as some call people who don't have control of their conscient functions, are not always as we see in movies or TV. Some ANSWER to many EXTERNAL stimuluos. or may even be truly concient even as they can't express themselves.
I'm not a doctor. The family bussiness is a "home care for the disease" store and rental. I've seen people who are not exactly vegetables: they answer to sound and people even as they are not 100% consciuos. Like a baby.
Problem with euthanasia, is that YOU DON'T MAY KNOW WHEN SOMEONE JUST WANT TO GET RID OF A PERSON.
In the bussiness, I've seen poor people making sacrificies to keep a relative alive, while I talked once with a rich lady that just wanted to dump her brother down the hole. Truly.
It's like last year's case of the lady of Florida, who was responsibe to external stimulus (don't know if this is the rigth word in English), but it was clear her husband just wanted the veredict to get rid of the wife.
Yes, there are cases where it isn't as easy to know what's good or bad, when it's been enough or not. Like when is the same person who asks the euthanasia for his/herself.
As Catholic, I couldn't apply it to myself.
Maybe you can ask the one who would be mercy killed , but absolutely he or she can't answer a word , maybe himself decide to be mercy killed .
To the living one , kill their relation would make them sad . But everyone will die one day . So , why not look ahead ? Pain will be passing .
mercy killing should be allowed ...it's funny (or not so funny when you think of it) that abortions are allowed and the babies are not "brain dead" ...they just didn't get in contact with the outside world
...no human wants to be stucked on the border of life and death ...it's like a soul trapped in a 'dead body' (by dead body I mean a body that CAN'T get it's living functions back to normal)
Yeah, but it's sooo an easy way to get rid of someone who maybe doesn't want to be killed, but just understood and having company of relatives...
What would any of you feel if, with your brain still working, someone is going to disconnect you for being a "ballast", or something that your relatives don't want to see because you are something "uncomfortable" to them? "Human garbage"?
Euthanasia: the perfect excuse for the perfect murder.
merged: 11-25-2006 ~ 11:50am
I know I promised good old tobias88 not to confront him, but hre there are a couple of ideas that need to be comented. Anyway, I don't think he'll come back around, since his post is weeks old. So, it's nothing personal against tobias88. Just my point of view. And, shhhh! don't tell him!:)
Well, if anyone paints the worst scenario... but generaly, in cancer you go quicly. I had a grandmother, an uncle and an aunt that died of cancer (she was a nun)... none of them chosed that path.
A friend of the family if about to go, as his own father did... but he's the father of teens, and he sets an example of valor and moral... because he believes in the "sanctity of life", so despised by many. And he doesn't want any of their childs to commit suicidie when they confront a difficultty in life.
Another friend, who died at 25, married a year before his dead. Not because he wanted, he told his girlfriend to turn her back and go find happiness elsewhere, with any other. But she insisted, because she LOVED him. And took care of him all that last year... And I'm sure he died happy, because she offered him LOVE, not a siringe with poison.
She was the one who truly suffered... what a brave girl.
It's an interesting turn... why not offer LIFE instead of death?
Suicide is not legal. As far as I know, a police officer or firefigther in any country will try to save a suicide. If anyone is thinking that suicide is an undeniable rigth, better be carefull, please... and talk with someone you trust. He/she may be thinking on actually doing it.
I'm not writing this from a Church while singing the Allelulla, away from the real world. As I have told dear babyLemon on other thread, I have have had my share of both physical and mental challenges. Really painfull, really hard to crawil back.
And a cousin, in the same situation, chose to kill himself. I don't despise him, I UNDERSTAND HIM. That frigthens me a lot. I pray for his soul because I know he did it in a moment of despair, as I have had. And will have (it's geneticall).
I'm a believer, but I don't think he condemned himself. But of course, HE CHOSE THE WRONG PATH, BECAUSE HE MIGTH HAD 1% OF CHANCE OF BEING HAPPY. But now he's 100% dead.
Please, think twice.
For brain dead people etc.: If they really did expressedly say they want to be killed under these circumstances, then you should honour their decision, it was their choice - if they have made this decision, then they have already thought about their life after becoming brain dead, even if its not as bad as they thought it was for them, they already made up their mind after thinking about it before hand.
For euthanasia (without brain damage): No, if they want to die, let them kill themselves, & if they don't have the courage to kill themselves, then they shouldn't put the guilt of their death on your hands.
I'd want someone to kill me if my body was no longer functioning... If I'm going to be braindead I'd rather be all dead.
But only if I've been a vegetable for more than a year.
I think it really depends on the individual person to decide, but if they can't, then no.
Some people don't understand that when the time comes they should just let go of their loved ones.
It's like they try to drag them back from that tunnel of light ...and no one likes to be dragged back from there, yet alone be trapped in a unfunctioning body.
The more technology and science advances we will like to play God more and more until... something bad happens.
I agree with starfixxer-san..Humans are starting to like to play God,reading all the post everytime someone posted,makes me realises that everyone has their own opinion and understanding the situation well...I notice some talked about those who are not brain dead but immobalize,there is a disease call spiralcerebullar degeneration,which involves in the sudden shrinking of the cerebellum..I recently watch this show called,'1 litre of tears' that talk about a girl of the age of 15 who was infected with the disease,this is a true story.I really thank you all of you for answering because my knowledge and thinking has really widen,I thank you...I hope you would look at the show I said earlier..it's really touching..ONce again,Thank you.