Man, didn't knew that, it's new to me, thank you for the new
information.
Now, it migth have a flaw: by definition, an entity is everything that EXIST or
COULD EXIST... So you can't razor (limit) them.
No, I DON'T MEAN PINK UNICORNS.
Well, THINK ABOUT IT: New species unknown to man have appeared in the last 10
years. Not only insects, that perse crush the famous "razor", but
mammals, birds, reptiles, etc.
So, they DIDN'T EXIST until we discovered them? So, when we came to know them,
they POPED out of nothing?
IF A THREE FALLS IN THE MIDDLE OF A FOREST AND NONE IS THERE TO HEAR IT, DOES IT
MAKES ANY SOUND?
So, the advent of Homo Sapiens Superior could happen in not a very far
future.
Now, who defines what are the limits that mark where we start the "beyond
necessity"? Who has the athority? Occam? Marx? Bush? As subjetive as any
Phylosophy, or religion is.
Well, let's say: objectivly, we can't see God in a direct way now. And, also
afterlife falls in the same cathegory.
WHAT IF AFTERLIFE (AND GOD) EXIST?
So 50-50. As with a coin. Why? TRUE OR FALSE. As in a test. If you don't know
the answer for sure, you have 50-50 of getting the rigth answer.
Now, back to the topic, yes. YOU ARE NEEDED. YOU HAVE A PORPOUSE. Maybe you
haven't discovered yet. Why? Perhaps your time hasn't come yet. What would you
feel about your porpouse in life IF YOU HAD CHILDREN?
Maybe your pourpose is not far from you. Search in your neigbourhood. Open your
eyes and ears. Watch. Listen. Not to the noises. To what your concience tells
you.
I'm sorry I didn't sound as kind as I would have liked to be. It's been a bad
day.
Man, didn't knew that, it's new to me, thank you for the new
information.
Now, it migth have a flaw: by definition, an entity is everything that EXIST or
COULD EXIST... So you can't razor (limit) them.
No, I DON'T MEAN PINK UNICORNS.
Well, THINK ABOUT IT: New species unknown to man have appeared in the last 10
years. Not only insects, that perse crush the famous "razor", but
mammals, birds, reptiles, etc.
So, they DIDN'T EXIST until we discovered them? So, when we came to know them,
they POPED out of nothing?
IF A THREE FALLS IN THE MIDDLE OF A FOREST AND NONE IS THERE TO HEAR IT, DOES IT
MAKES ANY SOUND?
So, the advent of Homo Sapiens Superior could happen in not a very far
future.
Now, who defines what are the limits that mark where we start the "beyond
necessity"? Who has the athority? Occam? Marx? Bush? As subjetive as any
Phylosophy, or religion is.
We will never, for as long as life
exists, stop discovering new species. This is predicted--indeed, guaranteed--by
science, specifically the theory of evolution by natural selection. Aside: and
as far as I know, the appearance of new species isn't predicted at all by
Christian creationist theology. Correct me if I'm wrong.
The assumption of God, however, is a complete non sequitur. It has nothing to do
with scientific theory--i.e., how we explain the universe. So, your example of
unknown species is actually a necessary component of the theory, while the
assumption of God is unnecessary. Thus, to obtain an elegant and simple theory,
we just discard the unnecessary assumption.
Quote: Well, let's say: objectivly,
we can't see God in a direct way now. And, also afterlife falls in the same
cathegory.
WHAT IF AFTERLIFE (AND GOD) EXIST?
So 50-50. As with a coin. Why? TRUE OR FALSE. As in a test. If you don't know
the answer for sure, you have 50-50 of getting the rigth
answer.
I still don't understand what gives you the idea that the chances of existence
of an afterlife are equally likely and unlikely. Someone else want to help
explain (from either side)?
Quote: Now, back to the topic, yes.
YOU ARE NEEDED. YOU HAVE A PORPOUSE. Maybe you haven't discovered yet. Why?
Perhaps your time hasn't come yet. What would you feel about your porpouse in
life IF YOU HAD CHILDREN?
Maybe your pourpose is not far from you. Search in your neigbourhood. Open your
eyes and ears. Watch. Listen. Not to the noises. To what your concience tells
you.
How is this related to the thread topic? It sounds like you're talking about my
particular purpose as an individual. If I understood correctly, the topic of
this thread is the (apocryphal) assumption of an absolute purpose for the
existence of the human species. These two are completely unrelated.
I can arbitrarily create goals for myself to work towards, or let goals develop
and emerge through my environment, and call these my purpose in life. However,
no person can affect the "absolute purpose of humankind".
Anyway, interesting discussion, mireya2.
merged: 12-02-2006 ~ 07:06pm
Quote by GallopiaScientist believe we
are develop frm monkeys ....
And the result... they involed and therefore they turn to us ...
No offense, but I fail to see the relevance of this post.
By the way, that isn't really what scientists
believe.
PEOPLE, WE DID NOT DEVELOP FROM MONKEY! Man... How many times can one get that
wrong? Seriously, to get some respect, you need to look smart. And to look
smart, you need to be somewhat correct. So, yeah, go do some research before you
utter any stupidity. Please.
Why are we here? We're just here by chance. We are naturally selected to
survive, and then, now, like every other species, we're here to breed to keep
the species alive. So, there you have it. We are here to have sex and reproduce.
Or, have sex and adopt... Or have sex and donor your sperm/eggs so someone else
can reproduce. That's what all living things are programmed to do. Reproduce.
Quote by babyLemonWhy are we here?
We're just here by chance. We are naturally selected to survive, and then, now,
like every other species, we're here to breed to keep the species alive. So,
there you have it. We are here to have sex and reproduce. Or, have sex and
adopt... Or have sex and donor your sperm/eggs so someone else can reproduce.
That's what all living things are programmed to do. Reproduce.
I almost feel like I'm making a useless post, but I can't help but assert my
agreement with this. Read, members of Minitokyo! Read..and begin to understand.
Quote:
Why are we here? We\'re just here by chance. We are naturally selected to
survive, and then, now, like every other species, we\'re here to breed to keep
the species alive. So, there you have it. We are here to have sex and reproduce.
Or, have sex and adopt... Or have sex and donor your sperm/eggs so someone else
can reproduce. That\'s what all living things are programmed to do.
Reproduce.
you are not evolution fan boys,arent you?
Evolution theory originated from paganism.
the one who reject all religion .
their characteristics : racism,love everything with bloody things,always see
human as animal not from creation from earth-gotten soul by God in heaven
Hehehehe, well that is a very good question. Mostly would like to give sci-fi
type of answers or simply share crazy thoughts. But now that you asked. We have
the purpose to honor God. We are the only been that was created alike
God.
That is the reason why we are so intelligent, so creative and our development
seems to have no limit, except of course by time and space. But one day we will
not be tied to time and space anymore, we will not be tide tied to flesh
anymore.
God has better plans for us, He wants to restablish His friendship with us.
Unfortunately we broke that friendship with our actions, but He gave Jesus to
restablish that friendship between us and him.
We are on the Earth, because we supposed to be the rulers by His command of this
planet, unfortunately the Devil tricked the man, and the mankind foolishly has
follow devil's command since that first time.
Our porpose here, honor God, restablish friendship with Him, come back to Him.
I disagree. I think God is a spectator, a father or mother who watches from
afar. A loving mother who does not punish her children because she knows why her
child did such things. A loving father who would always open his arms and accept
his child for what it is, be it atheist, pagan, murderer, blasphemer.
Why? Ask again, is God omnipotent? If you're answer is yes, then you already
know the answer. Why would God ask us for anything if he already has everything,
and could change things according to his will? That's the simple answer to a
simple question.
well actually life is beautiful you can learn/explore things.
You can learn new things like loving and caring and you can learn from mistakes
so you won't will make that mistake again.
(though I also really hate this world I hate all those selfish peeps who only
see themselves as the most important thing in life and the politics uuuurgh just
wanna shoot them all down, tsk tsk selfish people who don't think/care about
others)
BUT actually we humans are made for money no money is no life
for example; school -----> University ------> Good job ------> Money
-----> Death
I mean I think there is no reason for us to live
I'd rather don't want to be born in the first place (do I hate my life that
much?; No.)
It's just I think life does not have a meaning...
what are we living for?
We are still like animals because no money is no food is no life.
I dunno what the world/life/universe etc etc is...
I am someone who only wants answers and prove I know that's (almost) impossible
but that's why I think you don't have a reason for living. (we don't know
anything)
and why are there poor people and rich people, why does somebody have to suffer
so much, why are some peeps sooo lucky? why why why? we are only living for good
things in life.... why?
*sigh* I will live my (boring)life like everyone else; school ----->
University ------> Good job ------> Money
cuz we can't do more than that can we?
btw; if you don't agree with me then just ignore my post (i'm still 13 so...
><)
Ok, he's a little bit radical in his thougts, but it isn't nice to call
risingcrescent "stupid" for his beliefs. He's muslim! For them,
evolution doesn't counts! That deserves respect... unless he insults you first.
No, not even. I've seen this before...
Remember, an Islamic country (which one, I don't remember), not a long time ago,
banned Pokemon. PO-KE-MON, you heard that? Because, you remember, the little
furs used to evolve...
Whatever.
Quote by BobaFett2ha We will never, for as long as life exists, stop
discovering new species. This is predicted--indeed, guaranteed--by science,
specifically the theory of evolution by natural selection. Aside: and as far as
I know, the appearance of new species isn't predicted at all by Christian
creationist theology. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Man, it's not that way. But before we go to that, the Creationist theory is
fiercie defended by some ramifications and sects devired from the Evangelic
churchs, in the U.S.
To Catholicism, the disscussion is irrelevant. Science and faith don't have
necesarely to opose. Unless you are a 80-year-old lady. For me, I'm both
Catholic and an evolution fan.
Quote by BobaFett2haThe assumption of
God, however, is a complete non sequitur. It has nothing to do with scientific
theory--i.e., how we explain the universe. So, your example of unknown species
is actually a necessary component of the theory, while the assumption of God is
unnecessary. Thus, to obtain an elegant and simple theory, we just discard the
unnecessary assumption.
See? The example was not to defend that new spieces won't appear. Of course
they'll appear! The example was to express that an entity is something that
already exists, or could exist. The new species example was to set that
something we don't know if exist for certain, but we suspect it can exits...
then when discovered, we truly know it exists.
What did I just wrote?
Well, translated it means that direct knowledge is not necessary for something
to exist. Existance is independent of our previous knowledge.
We can imagine that there's life in Mars, and surely something will be
discovered... but rigth now we don't have direct proof, just the idea. So, if
you have in you head the idea of God, angels, or demons, there are chances that
they could exist, by definition of "entity".
Of course anyone can imagine a pink unicorn with wings whering a ballerina, but
here we're talking about an idea generalized in all Humanity.
Quote: I still don't understand
what gives you the idea that the chances of existence of an afterlife are
equally likely and unlikely. Someone else want to help explain (from either
side)?.
Like a casino! On what chances would you put your money on? No mathematian would
say 100% existance - 0% nonexistance. Why? There's no direct proof that God
exists. For the same reason, you can't deny it either, because nothing proofs
that God doesn't exists. Remains as a theory. The same as afterlife.
If you only have two choices, it's 50-50. Like a coin. Or like the sex of a
non-yet-born baby.
Only that here, you don't put money, you put your beliefs and life.
Quote: How is this related to the
thread topic? It sounds like you're talking about my particular purpose as an
individual. If I understood correctly, the topic of this thread is the
(apocryphal) assumption of an absolute purpose for the existence of the human
species. These two are completely unrelated.
I can arbitrarily create goals for myself to work towards, or let goals develop
and emerge through my environment, and call these my purpose in life. However,
no person can affect the "absolute purpose of
humankind".
That's because your life and my life, your thougts and mine, your illusions and
my illusions, dreams, work, emotions, feelings, yours, mine and the other's
people ARE Humanity.
We're beyond the point of just being creatures interacting with nature... well,
unfournately. I'll grant that. But Humanity is here to make a better world. A
better yet Humanity.
No, wait, I'm not nuts. You may believe it or not, but whatever you do to your
sorroundings, to the people arround you, counts, no matter how small. Yes, there
are people destroying nature and people destroying people... but your goodness,
my goodness, our goodness... counts: "To educate a child is to educate the
future". Planting a three. Adopting a lost kitten...
Man, it's almost midnigth and I'm tired. And yes, I'm kind of a "Catholic
Humanist". It's a personal phylosophy. Our reason to exist is deeply
engaged to the sum of our personal phylosophies.
The coin of the future of Humanity is in the air... which side will it fall?
Destruction? A better world?
See you around... perhaps a lot later. My PC's broken
P.S. I can't imagine a life with Pokemon banned forever...
Quote by BobaFett2haI think the odds
of there being an afterlife are hardly 50-50. But regardless, in my opinion, the
idea of an afterlife (and indeed, all of religion) fails Occam's Razor. If
you're not familiar with it, by the way, the principle is "entities should
not be multiplied beyond necessity." It's quite obvious how it should be
applied here: afterlife, god, reliigion, etc are all unnecessary for explaining
anything, and should just be disregarded.
Back to the thread topic, the assumption that humans have some sort of special
purpose for existence is equally unnecessary and arbitrary, thus I disregard it
as well.
Hah! Yeah! That was great! But, I must say that if you think it is neccessary to
participate in this thread then you must have some purpose behind it. Would it
be that you are venting your accumulated observations? You seems to seek
something more absolute and yet, being here proves you have an interest in
something other than the plain, so as to keep yourself occupied and entertained
with shared interests. Would it be necessary to participate if you hadn't a
purpose for doing so? I think that would be negated. Try it. You'll see all that
is unecessary by negating the things that are necessary. That is how you reach
your view of nothingness.
And the disregarding of God and afterlife would be a mistake unless their
purpose for existence has fullfilled itself. Think about it. For every action
there is an equal and opposite reaction. But for something to be complete there
needs to be it's necessary parts in order to accumulate the whole. Still...there
is purpose. For that whole to be put together, there must be something that sees
that it happens. And for something to spite the things that reach out for the
fulfillment of thier purposes an argument is made. That argumenter sees the
other side of things. It is like "God and the Devil". But, if you've
observed...you'd have noticed that everything, even the unnecessary things,
happen on account of it having been planned. The purpose of logic is to be
correct. The purpose of mathematics is to find absolution. Yeah! Heh. Great.
merged: 12-09-2006 ~ 03:15pm
Quote by mikan-sakuraI mean I think
there is no reason for us to live
I once thought of something that came from the acknowledgement of patients.
"There answer is not to greedily demand the meaning of life. But to simply
live..."
There are many ways one and another may find are the ways they may want to
concider living. As we live, each of us press forth in search of what that way
of life is. There is an answer. I know this with trust that it is true because,
life has already been granted. We live and there is a way to find out how.
Quote by mireya2Ok, he's a little bit
radical in his thougts, but it isn't nice to call risingcrescent
"stupid" for his beliefs. He's muslim! For them, evolution doesn't
counts! That deserves respect... unless he insults you first. No, not even. I've
seen this before...
Remember, an Islamic country (which one, I don't remember), not a long time ago,
banned Pokemon. PO-KE-MON, you heard that? Because, you remember, the little
furs used to evolve...
Admittedly, calling Risingcrescent 'stupid' may be a tad crass. But the
'niceness' of BobaFett's comment aside, I do not believe that Risingcrescent's
religion is any excuse for his blatent discriminatory statements. He refers to
pagans and rejectors of religion (foolishly believing that both are one and the
same) as bloodthirsty racists. This is a direct insult to those of non-Abrahamic
religions, agnostics, and atheists (such as myself). Citation of his being
Muslim is not a viable defence - association of bloodlust and racism with
non-Muslims may not be found anywhere in the Qur'an. I find that BobaFett's
insulting of him in turn (tit-for-tat response) is perfectly understandable, if
not justified, though to be fair Risingcrescent is displaying more ignorance or
gullibility than actual stupidity.
Because God put us here.This question is like asking what is the purpose of
life.Nobody is sure but they can try to answer.All i know is God put us on this
earth.......but if i had to come up with a reason why we are... i would say
that,we are hear to see what a sinful world we live in and to just recognize
your creator and gain knowledge throuhout your life and come to heaven to
understand sin.But thats my guess...
Hi, BobaFett2ha
Man, didn't knew that, it's new to me, thank you for the new information.
Now, it migth have a flaw: by definition, an entity is everything that EXIST or COULD EXIST... So you can't razor (limit) them.
No, I DON'T MEAN PINK UNICORNS.
Well, THINK ABOUT IT: New species unknown to man have appeared in the last 10 years. Not only insects, that perse crush the famous "razor", but mammals, birds, reptiles, etc.
So, they DIDN'T EXIST until we discovered them? So, when we came to know them, they POPED out of nothing?
IF A THREE FALLS IN THE MIDDLE OF A FOREST AND NONE IS THERE TO HEAR IT, DOES IT MAKES ANY SOUND?
So, the advent of Homo Sapiens Superior could happen in not a very far future.
Now, who defines what are the limits that mark where we start the "beyond necessity"? Who has the athority? Occam? Marx? Bush? As subjetive as any Phylosophy, or religion is.
Well, let's say: objectivly, we can't see God in a direct way now. And, also afterlife falls in the same cathegory.
WHAT IF AFTERLIFE (AND GOD) EXIST?
So 50-50. As with a coin. Why? TRUE OR FALSE. As in a test. If you don't know the answer for sure, you have 50-50 of getting the rigth answer.
Now, back to the topic, yes. YOU ARE NEEDED. YOU HAVE A PORPOUSE. Maybe you haven't discovered yet. Why? Perhaps your time hasn't come yet. What would you feel about your porpouse in life IF YOU HAD CHILDREN?
Maybe your pourpose is not far from you. Search in your neigbourhood. Open your eyes and ears. Watch. Listen. Not to the noises. To what your concience tells you.
I'm sorry I didn't sound as kind as I would have liked to be. It's been a bad day.
See you around.
Scientist believe we are develop frm monkeys ....
And the result... they involed and therefore they turn to us ...
Poor monkeys. You discredit them.
We will never, for as long as life exists, stop discovering new species. This is predicted--indeed, guaranteed--by science, specifically the theory of evolution by natural selection. Aside: and as far as I know, the appearance of new species isn't predicted at all by Christian creationist theology. Correct me if I'm wrong.
The assumption of God, however, is a complete non sequitur. It has nothing to do with scientific theory--i.e., how we explain the universe. So, your example of unknown species is actually a necessary component of the theory, while the assumption of God is unnecessary. Thus, to obtain an elegant and simple theory, we just discard the unnecessary assumption.
I still don't understand what gives you the idea that the chances of existence of an afterlife are equally likely and unlikely. Someone else want to help explain (from either side)?
How is this related to the thread topic? It sounds like you're talking about my particular purpose as an individual. If I understood correctly, the topic of this thread is the (apocryphal) assumption of an absolute purpose for the existence of the human species. These two are completely unrelated.
I can arbitrarily create goals for myself to work towards, or let goals develop and emerge through my environment, and call these my purpose in life. However, no person can affect the "absolute purpose of humankind".
Anyway, interesting discussion, mireya2.
merged: 12-02-2006 ~ 07:06pm
No offense, but I fail to see the relevance of this post.
By the way, that isn't really what scientists believe.
i think we are here on earth because God made us to live here, only God knows why we are here.
PEOPLE, WE DID NOT DEVELOP FROM MONKEY! Man... How many times can one get that wrong? Seriously, to get some respect, you need to look smart. And to look smart, you need to be somewhat correct. So, yeah, go do some research before you utter any stupidity. Please.
Why are we here? We're just here by chance. We are naturally selected to survive, and then, now, like every other species, we're here to breed to keep the species alive. So, there you have it. We are here to have sex and reproduce. Or, have sex and adopt... Or have sex and donor your sperm/eggs so someone else can reproduce. That's what all living things are programmed to do. Reproduce.
I almost feel like I'm making a useless post, but I can't help but assert my agreement with this. Read, members of Minitokyo! Read..and begin to understand.
you are not evolution fan boys,arent you?
Evolution theory originated from paganism.
the one who reject all religion .
their characteristics : racism,love everything with bloody things,always see human as animal not from creation from earth-gotten soul by God in heaven
There should be a rule against stupidity of this level.
we are on Earth for a test >__>
Hehehehe, well that is a very good question. Mostly would like to give sci-fi type of answers or simply share crazy thoughts. But now that you asked. We have the purpose to honor God. We are the only been that was created alike God.
That is the reason why we are so intelligent, so creative and our development seems to have no limit, except of course by time and space. But one day we will not be tied to time and space anymore, we will not be tide tied to flesh anymore.
God has better plans for us, He wants to restablish His friendship with us. Unfortunately we broke that friendship with our actions, but He gave Jesus to restablish that friendship between us and him.
We are on the Earth, because we supposed to be the rulers by His command of this planet, unfortunately the Devil tricked the man, and the mankind foolishly has follow devil's command since that first time.
Our porpose here, honor God, restablish friendship with Him, come back to Him.
I disagree. I think God is a spectator, a father or mother who watches from afar. A loving mother who does not punish her children because she knows why her child did such things. A loving father who would always open his arms and accept his child for what it is, be it atheist, pagan, murderer, blasphemer.
Why? Ask again, is God omnipotent? If you're answer is yes, then you already know the answer. Why would God ask us for anything if he already has everything, and could change things according to his will? That's the simple answer to a simple question.
well actually life is beautiful you can learn/explore things.
You can learn new things like loving and caring and you can learn from mistakes so you won't will make that mistake again.
(though I also really hate this world I hate all those selfish peeps who only see themselves as the most important thing in life and the politics uuuurgh just wanna shoot them all down, tsk tsk selfish people who don't think/care about others)
BUT actually we humans are made for money no money is no life
for example; school -----> University ------> Good job ------> Money -----> Death
I mean I think there is no reason for us to live
I'd rather don't want to be born in the first place (do I hate my life that much?; No.)
It's just I think life does not have a meaning...
what are we living for?
We are still like animals because no money is no food is no life.
I dunno what the world/life/universe etc etc is...
I am someone who only wants answers and prove I know that's (almost) impossible but that's why I think you don't have a reason for living. (we don't know anything)
and why are there poor people and rich people, why does somebody have to suffer so much, why are some peeps sooo lucky? why why why? we are only living for good things in life.... why?
*sigh* I will live my (boring)life like everyone else; school -----> University ------> Good job ------> Money
cuz we can't do more than that can we?
btw; if you don't agree with me then just ignore my post (i'm still 13 so... ><)
Hi, BobaFett2ha:
Ok, he's a little bit radical in his thougts, but it isn't nice to call risingcrescent "stupid" for his beliefs. He's muslim! For them, evolution doesn't counts! That deserves respect... unless he insults you first. No, not even. I've seen this before...
Remember, an Islamic country (which one, I don't remember), not a long time ago, banned Pokemon. PO-KE-MON, you heard that? Because, you remember, the little furs used to evolve...
Whatever.
Man, it's not that way. But before we go to that, the Creationist theory is fiercie defended by some ramifications and sects devired from the Evangelic churchs, in the U.S.
To Catholicism, the disscussion is irrelevant. Science and faith don't have necesarely to opose. Unless you are a 80-year-old lady. For me, I'm both Catholic and an evolution fan.
See? The example was not to defend that new spieces won't appear. Of course they'll appear! The example was to express that an entity is something that already exists, or could exist. The new species example was to set that something we don't know if exist for certain, but we suspect it can exits... then when discovered, we truly know it exists.
What did I just wrote?
Well, translated it means that direct knowledge is not necessary for something to exist. Existance is independent of our previous knowledge.
We can imagine that there's life in Mars, and surely something will be discovered... but rigth now we don't have direct proof, just the idea. So, if you have in you head the idea of God, angels, or demons, there are chances that they could exist, by definition of "entity".
Of course anyone can imagine a pink unicorn with wings whering a ballerina, but here we're talking about an idea generalized in all Humanity.
Like a casino! On what chances would you put your money on? No mathematian would say 100% existance - 0% nonexistance. Why? There's no direct proof that God exists. For the same reason, you can't deny it either, because nothing proofs that God doesn't exists. Remains as a theory. The same as afterlife.
If you only have two choices, it's 50-50. Like a coin. Or like the sex of a non-yet-born baby.
Only that here, you don't put money, you put your beliefs and life.
That's because your life and my life, your thougts and mine, your illusions and my illusions, dreams, work, emotions, feelings, yours, mine and the other's people ARE Humanity.
We're beyond the point of just being creatures interacting with nature... well, unfournately. I'll grant that. But Humanity is here to make a better world. A better yet Humanity.
No, wait, I'm not nuts. You may believe it or not, but whatever you do to your sorroundings, to the people arround you, counts, no matter how small. Yes, there are people destroying nature and people destroying people... but your goodness, my goodness, our goodness... counts: "To educate a child is to educate the future". Planting a three. Adopting a lost kitten...
Man, it's almost midnigth and I'm tired. And yes, I'm kind of a "Catholic Humanist". It's a personal phylosophy. Our reason to exist is deeply engaged to the sum of our personal phylosophies.
The coin of the future of Humanity is in the air... which side will it fall? Destruction? A better world?
See you around... perhaps a lot later. My PC's broken
P.S. I can't imagine a life with Pokemon banned forever...
I think... ...To have life and to have it to the full....
And to learn and experience what it really means to love.
Hah! Yeah! That was great! But, I must say that if you think it is neccessary to participate in this thread then you must have some purpose behind it. Would it be that you are venting your accumulated observations? You seems to seek something more absolute and yet, being here proves you have an interest in something other than the plain, so as to keep yourself occupied and entertained with shared interests. Would it be necessary to participate if you hadn't a purpose for doing so? I think that would be negated. Try it. You'll see all that is unecessary by negating the things that are necessary. That is how you reach your view of nothingness.
And the disregarding of God and afterlife would be a mistake unless their purpose for existence has fullfilled itself. Think about it. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. But for something to be complete there needs to be it's necessary parts in order to accumulate the whole. Still...there is purpose. For that whole to be put together, there must be something that sees that it happens. And for something to spite the things that reach out for the fulfillment of thier purposes an argument is made. That argumenter sees the other side of things. It is like "God and the Devil". But, if you've observed...you'd have noticed that everything, even the unnecessary things, happen on account of it having been planned. The purpose of logic is to be correct. The purpose of mathematics is to find absolution. Yeah! Heh. Great.
merged: 12-09-2006 ~ 03:15pm
I once thought of something that came from the acknowledgement of patients.
"There answer is not to greedily demand the meaning of life. But to simply live..."
There are many ways one and another may find are the ways they may want to concider living. As we live, each of us press forth in search of what that way of life is. There is an answer. I know this with trust that it is true because, life has already been granted. We live and there is a way to find out how.
Admittedly, calling Risingcrescent 'stupid' may be a tad crass. But the 'niceness' of BobaFett's comment aside, I do not believe that Risingcrescent's religion is any excuse for his blatent discriminatory statements. He refers to pagans and rejectors of religion (foolishly believing that both are one and the same) as bloodthirsty racists. This is a direct insult to those of non-Abrahamic religions, agnostics, and atheists (such as myself). Citation of his being Muslim is not a viable defence - association of bloodlust and racism with non-Muslims may not be found anywhere in the Qur'an. I find that BobaFett's insulting of him in turn (tit-for-tat response) is perfectly understandable, if not justified, though to be fair Risingcrescent is displaying more ignorance or gullibility than actual stupidity.
a fish asks another fish "Why are we in the water?"
lol
Because God put us here.This question is like asking what is the purpose of life.Nobody is sure but they can try to answer.All i know is God put us on this earth.......but if i had to come up with a reason why we are... i would say that,we are hear to see what a sinful world we live in and to just recognize your creator and gain knowledge throuhout your life and come to heaven to understand sin.But thats my guess...