Similar to what many others had mentioned, I too, agree that the society is
lacking courtesy. And the rat race is the main cause of it. And like what
TSPhoenix had mention, those who chose to be nice always gets taken advantage of
and bullied. I suggest that those who choose to be nice to learn to retaliate as
those people who take advantage of the nice people often fear retaliation
greatly.
Well, at least its not the end for me yet, for there is still quite a number of
nice people around me...
Like many here, I also believe that our race is losing all its courtesy towards
one another. That story you told about that little girl - if everyone was like
that, then this world would be great. People have begun to lose there decency
towards others just so they can pull out on top, as if winning is all that
matters, well it isn't. What good is being the best if no one respects you?
Wow, you are a sentimentalist. Yes, I agree that everyone should be more careful
at their manner and treat people nicely. Being nice is not bad, just don't be
overly nice. I have a very mean friend, I don't know if her brain functions
improperly or something but nine over ten of her sentences sound so mean. When I
got low grade, I was already depressed and mad at myself, and then she said gosh
what is wrong with you, how can you get so low. I was so so mad.
There's this neat little rule for dealing with other people that sadly doesn't
get taught so much anymore. "Do unto other as you would have them do unto
you." Really neat, except for one small problem with it, and it's why it no
one teaches it much anymore... It's from the Bible, so because it comes from
those wacko 'holier than thou' right-wing conservative Christians' book, we
can't say or teach anything from it or we'd be 'mixing church & state'. In
the meantime, not only do people become ruder, more self-adsorbed and lacking of
respect for others (and even in some cases, themselves), but the Christian
values that Western society was built on fall by the wayside (and even
ridiculed) while we go out of our way to accommodate members of a religion that
a number of radical members have avowed to destroy said society and that their
holy book says that non-believers should be converted, subjugated or killed
without exception.
Manners seem to be directly correlated to the level of intellect that person
has. So the dumber people get, the less of appreciation they'll have for
politeness.
"It's far easier to be rude than polite."
-Hawthorne
I think it's a vicious circle ...it relates to what Kytel said, which is very
true. .. Mass-media has a huge influention over people and they do what they see
on tv and so on, and mass-media shows what people do...
It's "people's rights"and the "politically correct attitude"
that creates a distorted idea and it got way out of hands. Many people think
it's their right not to be polite to someone they don't like, and in a matter of
way, it is so. They think it's their right to be shown respect, but do not think
of showing it to others, some of which could be perfect strangers. they think
that they also, for example, have the right to climb on a bus, so they
"make their way" by pushing others, but do not concern themselves of
helping others, nor do they think that a person next to them might be having
some sort of problems. people would answer "who doesen't have
problems?!?"
well...everyone does.it's all about common-sense and manners that are lately
considered to be an obstacle in one's ways. many do not care about anyone
besides them.
for example, some neighbours are having their street fixed. in order to fix that
street, the workers cut down the trees and when asked why they did it, they
replied that the people residing on that street asked them to, so that they
could be able to park better their cars. Those people did not bother to ask
their neighbours about the trees nor did they think about the gases from the
cars, and the dust, and the hot summer days when there won't be a place of shade
to hide at...just because they don't care about anyone but themselves.
many examples such as this could be written, many I was an unvoluntarily
participant at at many times.
or the respect for the elders. Or...the elders' attitude towards the younger
generation and so on.
Well-mannerd people are on the verge of extintion unfortunatelly.
I don't how many people realize this, but swearing and cussing is actually bad
manners too, and I get sick of people throwing out foul language. I think if
people actually stopped and thought about the meanings of the words they use
(especially the f-word...) you'd realize what a complete fool you sound like
throwing it out in normal conversation. Sadly, it's gotten so bad that I've even
heard Elementary School students talking like that...
I do agree with some of the people here that there are too many that complain
about what's happening in society, but they don't start with themselves. There's
actually a song Garth Brooks sings that sums up most of my feelings, so I'll
post a bit of the lyrics here:
One hand reaches out
And pulls a lost soul from harm
While a thousand more go unspoken for
They say what good have you done
By saving just this one
It's like whispering a prayer
In the fury of a storm
And I hear them saying you'll never change
things
And no matter what you do it's still the same thing
But it's not the world that I am changing
I do this so this world will know
That it will not change me
It's called The Change if anyone is
curious to read the rest of it. You may not be able to change the world, but a
simple act of kindness or gratitude can effect another person, whether or not
you realize it. Sometimes you may not see an immediate result, but that doesn't
mean the person won't ever think about how you behave. It's up to you to live
right and set an example. Hey, sometimes that's what other people need to feel
enough courage to do so themselves. There may be a lot of jerks out there, but
there are good people in the world, so don't give up on everyone
I couldn't possibly agree with the poster of this thread more. It's this whole
awareness of "Peoples rights" and knowing what they can and/or cannot
do in society to give them the upper hand in concern for their own wellbeing.
People stop caring about other people, it's always about themselves. However,
there are people who are raised to care about others, to be polite, to have
manners, to have respect for everyone and anyone. This is how I was raised as
well, and I find it simply pathetic on how people behave in this world. It's
just simply so corrupt. It's not just youth either you see, anyone from the age
range from 12+ nowadays can have a horrible attitude towards you. And for what?
It's simply pathetic. I am reminded of the time I was out with my friend, we
wanted to go and watch a movie, so we did. After that, we went to the Arcade to
play maybe a game of Pool or maybe some shooter like Time Crisis 3 or something.
You know, just simple stuff. Then, as we played pool, a bunch of guys from the
age I'm guessing at... 15>18 come in, in a group of about 12. Yeah, you can
see where this one is going...
So anyway, we continued playing, ignoring them, then one of them came over and
asked where I was from, so I answered him and he immediately called it a
"shithole". Already I knew that this guy probably had some ego-problem
or he had some alcohol behind the teeth. Either way, I shook it off as I
continued playing. Another guy then picked up a ball and said he didn't like the
ball. I shook that one off too by saying "I'll pot it for you if you put it
down then! Go on!" with my cheery voice :P So anyway, they started hustling
and bustling about the place so we just quit the game of pool. We went over to
the music machine(It changes the music played in the Arcade) and as we just
wanted to select songs, the lot of them ganged up behind us, and started
tackling us in the hope we would fall to the floor. They proceeded to try and
punch us and challenge us to fight them. Of course, I knew better than any of
that and just kept my eye on them really closely. Then, one guy pulled the
hair-band from my friend's hair out. This nearly made me lose it, literally.
Again they started bumping into us, trying to provoke us into fighting. Both me
and my friend took the initiative and walked away, however they still tried to
surround us nevertheless, as they started punching and kicking me in my back to
try and provoke me, but we walked to a larger crowd of people as they, of course, backed off. We didn't fight them for
several obvious reasons, being outnumbered, we didn't know if they had drugs or
alcohol, nor did we know if they were armed with a knife or a gun. So we took
the wiser choice.
The thing is, it's just simply growing worse by the years. Back in the days when
my mom was young, about age 20-30, she could easily walk in dark alleyways, just
to use as shortcuts for going home. She's in her 50's now.
Quote by ArtificialRaindropI
don't how many people realize this, but swearing and cussing is actually bad
manners too, and I get sick of people throwing out foul language. I think if
people actually stopped and thought about the meanings of the words they use
(especially the f-word...) you'd realize what a complete fool you sound like
throwing it out in normal conversation. Sadly, it's gotten so bad that I've even
heard Elementary School students talking like that...
I do agree with some of the people here that there are too many that complain
about what's happening in society, but they don't start with themselves. There's
actually a song Garth Brooks sings that sums up most of my feelings, so I'll
post a bit of the lyrics here:
One hand reaches out
And pulls a lost soul from harm
While a thousand more go unspoken for
They say what good have you done
By saving just this one
It's like whispering a prayer
In the fury of a storm
And I hear them saying you'll never change
things
And no matter what you do it's still the same thing
But it's not the world that I am changing
I do this so this world will know
That it will not change me
It's called The Change if anyone is
curious to read the rest of it. You may not be able to change the world, but a
simple act of kindness or gratitude can effect another person, whether or not
you realize it. Sometimes you may not see an immediate result, but that doesn't
mean the person won't ever think about how you behave. It's up to you to live
right and set an example. Hey, sometimes that's what other people need to feel
enough courage to do so themselves. There may be a lot of jerks out there, but
there are good people in the world, so don't give up on everyone
And I just quoted this guy for QFT.(Quoted for Truth in case you don't recognise
that :P) Nice lyrics btw =)
Talking about swearing, everyone thinks that all those noble people never swear
or curse when actually from a historical point of view, it's royalty and noble
people who had the habit of swearing the most. They were all in the army and so
they learned to swear during command. Common folk didn't really swear, but just
used common talk. That was just FYI in history.
More to the point, it's true that today people are using swear words more often
but then language changes, what used to be offensive will become normal and new
swear words will appear.
Robert Heinlein said "The loss of manners is the first sign of the decay of
a society. People loss there manners and then they start voting for cake and
circus(modern well fair and other social programs that put a band aid on a
problem instead of fixing it). One of the early sign of the loss of manners is
how clean public rest rooms are." He saw this coming in the 50s. 50+ years
have only proven him right.
I believe there are many factors/events that lead to this decline.
And I agree that is quite saddening AND annoying. Depending on the level of
"asshole-ness," I would want to punish that person/group one way or
another.
What I've observed is that some people are rude on purpose, but other people
don't even realize that they are being rude--they are simply completely unaware
of other people's needs and feelings. I think it's this second group that is
contributing to your impression that manners are declining.
I remember when I was a little girl, if I got in someone's way or cut someone
off in line (without realizing it), my mother would say, "Pay attention to
your surroundings!" When I noticed I had cut someone off, I would move back
out of the way.
The problem with a lot of people is that there's nothing in their brains to tell
them, "Hey, look around! Is what you're doing inconveniencing someone
else?"
I agree that living among the gloomy people make your life seems like hell. I am
surrounded by gloomy people myself. My parents are gloomy after a tired day of
work. My friends are gloomy because there's not a single fun thing they can say
to me because their life is just another gloomy life like me. I felt too
depressed. Well, at least the teachers are nice but their niceness is not
truthful. "Sign" the world is a sorry place.
So people can be polite to your face but hate you behind your back? If you're
not Japanese, that's what living in Japan can be like. It's more pronounced in
some places than others.
I agree about the whole rudeness thing, as well that:
Quote by hydroniumNah. Society's not
getting ruder.
We just become more aware as we grow older, that's all. Everyone's still as
snotty as they ever were.
In America, I think at least part of the rudeness is based on arrogance and
thoughtlessness. For example, I was at the gas station the other day and it was
very busy. This guy at one pump was talking to the guy at the pump next to his
so those 2 pumps were occupied by their vehicles, even though they were done
filling up. Both were middle-aged men. Everyone had a hard time going around,
since they also didn't park well to gas up. I stared while I was filling up, the
guy in front of me got the message and wanted to leave, but the other guy just
kept talking. So I went up to them when I was finished and asked if they were
finished, because others were waiting. The jabberjaw just looked at me and waved
me away and said, "That's fine." I really wanted to call him an ass
and give him some life advice, but decided not to. They did leave, though.
Similar to what many others had mentioned, I too, agree that the society is lacking courtesy. And the rat race is the main cause of it. And like what TSPhoenix had mention, those who chose to be nice always gets taken advantage of and bullied. I suggest that those who choose to be nice to learn to retaliate as those people who take advantage of the nice people often fear retaliation greatly.
Well, at least its not the end for me yet, for there is still quite a number of nice people around me...
Like many here, I also believe that our race is losing all its courtesy towards one another. That story you told about that little girl - if everyone was like that, then this world would be great. People have begun to lose there decency towards others just so they can pull out on top, as if winning is all that matters, well it isn't. What good is being the best if no one respects you?
Wow, you are a sentimentalist. Yes, I agree that everyone should be more careful at their manner and treat people nicely. Being nice is not bad, just don't be overly nice. I have a very mean friend, I don't know if her brain functions improperly or something but nine over ten of her sentences sound so mean. When I got low grade, I was already depressed and mad at myself, and then she said gosh what is wrong with you, how can you get so low. I was so so mad.
Nah. Society's not getting ruder.
We just become more aware as we grow older, that's all. Everyone's still as snotty as they ever were.
There's this neat little rule for dealing with other people that sadly doesn't get taught so much anymore. "Do unto other as you would have them do unto you." Really neat, except for one small problem with it, and it's why it no one teaches it much anymore... It's from the Bible, so because it comes from those wacko 'holier than thou' right-wing conservative Christians' book, we can't say or teach anything from it or we'd be 'mixing church & state'. In the meantime, not only do people become ruder, more self-adsorbed and lacking of respect for others (and even in some cases, themselves), but the Christian values that Western society was built on fall by the wayside (and even ridiculed) while we go out of our way to accommodate members of a religion that a number of radical members have avowed to destroy said society and that their holy book says that non-believers should be converted, subjugated or killed without exception.
Manners seem to be directly correlated to the level of intellect that person has. So the dumber people get, the less of appreciation they'll have for politeness.
"It's far easier to be rude than polite."
-Hawthorne
I think it's a vicious circle ...it relates to what Kytel said, which is very true. .. Mass-media has a huge influention over people and they do what they see on tv and so on, and mass-media shows what people do...
It's "people's rights"and the "politically correct attitude" that creates a distorted idea and it got way out of hands. Many people think it's their right not to be polite to someone they don't like, and in a matter of way, it is so. They think it's their right to be shown respect, but do not think of showing it to others, some of which could be perfect strangers. they think that they also, for example, have the right to climb on a bus, so they "make their way" by pushing others, but do not concern themselves of helping others, nor do they think that a person next to them might be having some sort of problems. people would answer "who doesen't have problems?!?"
well...everyone does.it's all about common-sense and manners that are lately considered to be an obstacle in one's ways. many do not care about anyone besides them.
for example, some neighbours are having their street fixed. in order to fix that street, the workers cut down the trees and when asked why they did it, they replied that the people residing on that street asked them to, so that they could be able to park better their cars. Those people did not bother to ask their neighbours about the trees nor did they think about the gases from the cars, and the dust, and the hot summer days when there won't be a place of shade to hide at...just because they don't care about anyone but themselves.
many examples such as this could be written, many I was an unvoluntarily participant at at many times.
or the respect for the elders. Or...the elders' attitude towards the younger generation and so on.
Well-mannerd people are on the verge of extintion unfortunatelly.
I don't how many people realize this, but swearing and cussing is actually bad manners too, and I get sick of people throwing out foul language. I think if people actually stopped and thought about the meanings of the words they use (especially the f-word...) you'd realize what a complete fool you sound like throwing it out in normal conversation. Sadly, it's gotten so bad that I've even heard Elementary School students talking like that...
I do agree with some of the people here that there are too many that complain about what's happening in society, but they don't start with themselves. There's actually a song Garth Brooks sings that sums up most of my feelings, so I'll post a bit of the lyrics here:
One hand reaches out
And pulls a lost soul from harm
While a thousand more go unspoken for
They say what good have you done
By saving just this one
It's like whispering a prayer
In the fury of a storm
And I hear them saying you'll never change things
And no matter what you do it's still the same thing
But it's not the world that I am changing
I do this so this world will know
That it will not change me
It's called The Change if anyone is curious to read the rest of it. You may not be able to change the world, but a simple act of kindness or gratitude can effect another person, whether or not you realize it. Sometimes you may not see an immediate result, but that doesn't mean the person won't ever think about how you behave. It's up to you to live right and set an example. Hey, sometimes that's what other people need to feel enough courage to do so themselves. There may be a lot of jerks out there, but there are good people in the world, so don't give up on everyone
I couldn't possibly agree with the poster of this thread more. It's this whole awareness of "Peoples rights" and knowing what they can and/or cannot do in society to give them the upper hand in concern for their own wellbeing. People stop caring about other people, it's always about themselves. However, there are people who are raised to care about others, to be polite, to have manners, to have respect for everyone and anyone. This is how I was raised as well, and I find it simply pathetic on how people behave in this world. It's just simply so corrupt. It's not just youth either you see, anyone from the age range from 12+ nowadays can have a horrible attitude towards you. And for what? It's simply pathetic. I am reminded of the time I was out with my friend, we wanted to go and watch a movie, so we did. After that, we went to the Arcade to play maybe a game of Pool or maybe some shooter like Time Crisis 3 or something. You know, just simple stuff. Then, as we played pool, a bunch of guys from the age I'm guessing at... 15>18 come in, in a group of about 12. Yeah, you can see where this one is going...
So anyway, we continued playing, ignoring them, then one of them came over and asked where I was from, so I answered him and he immediately called it a "shithole". Already I knew that this guy probably had some ego-problem or he had some alcohol behind the teeth. Either way, I shook it off as I continued playing. Another guy then picked up a ball and said he didn't like the ball. I shook that one off too by saying "I'll pot it for you if you put it down then! Go on!" with my cheery voice :P So anyway, they started hustling and bustling about the place so we just quit the game of pool. We went over to the music machine(It changes the music played in the Arcade) and as we just wanted to select songs, the lot of them ganged up behind us, and started tackling us in the hope we would fall to the floor. They proceeded to try and punch us and challenge us to fight them. Of course, I knew better than any of that and just kept my eye on them really closely. Then, one guy pulled the hair-band from my friend's hair out. This nearly made me lose it, literally. Again they started bumping into us, trying to provoke us into fighting. Both me and my friend took the initiative and walked away, however they still tried to surround us nevertheless, as they started punching and kicking me in my back to try and provoke me, but we walked to a larger crowd of people as they, of course, backed off. We didn't fight them for several obvious reasons, being outnumbered, we didn't know if they had drugs or alcohol, nor did we know if they were armed with a knife or a gun. So we took the wiser choice.
The thing is, it's just simply growing worse by the years. Back in the days when my mom was young, about age 20-30, she could easily walk in dark alleyways, just to use as shortcuts for going home. She's in her 50's now.
And I just quoted this guy for QFT.(Quoted for Truth in case you don't recognise that :P) Nice lyrics btw =)
Talking about swearing, everyone thinks that all those noble people never swear or curse when actually from a historical point of view, it's royalty and noble people who had the habit of swearing the most. They were all in the army and so they learned to swear during command. Common folk didn't really swear, but just used common talk. That was just FYI in history.
More to the point, it's true that today people are using swear words more often but then language changes, what used to be offensive will become normal and new swear words will appear.
Robert Heinlein said "The loss of manners is the first sign of the decay of a society. People loss there manners and then they start voting for cake and circus(modern well fair and other social programs that put a band aid on a problem instead of fixing it). One of the early sign of the loss of manners is how clean public rest rooms are." He saw this coming in the 50s. 50+ years have only proven him right.
I believe there are many factors/events that lead to this decline.
And I agree that is quite saddening AND annoying. Depending on the level of "asshole-ness," I would want to punish that person/group one way or another.
What I've observed is that some people are rude on purpose, but other people don't even realize that they are being rude--they are simply completely unaware of other people's needs and feelings. I think it's this second group that is contributing to your impression that manners are declining.
I remember when I was a little girl, if I got in someone's way or cut someone off in line (without realizing it), my mother would say, "Pay attention to your surroundings!" When I noticed I had cut someone off, I would move back out of the way.
The problem with a lot of people is that there's nothing in their brains to tell them, "Hey, look around! Is what you're doing inconveniencing someone else?"
I agree that living among the gloomy people make your life seems like hell. I am surrounded by gloomy people myself. My parents are gloomy after a tired day of work. My friends are gloomy because there's not a single fun thing they can say to me because their life is just another gloomy life like me. I felt too depressed. Well, at least the teachers are nice but their niceness is not truthful. "Sign" the world is a sorry place.
and that, my friend, is the reason why i want to move to japan to live
So people can be polite to your face but hate you behind your back? If you're not Japanese, that's what living in Japan can be like. It's more pronounced in some places than others.
I agree about the whole rudeness thing, as well that:
In America, I think at least part of the rudeness is based on arrogance and thoughtlessness. For example, I was at the gas station the other day and it was very busy. This guy at one pump was talking to the guy at the pump next to his so those 2 pumps were occupied by their vehicles, even though they were done filling up. Both were middle-aged men. Everyone had a hard time going around, since they also didn't park well to gas up. I stared while I was filling up, the guy in front of me got the message and wanted to leave, but the other guy just kept talking. So I went up to them when I was finished and asked if they were finished, because others were waiting. The jabberjaw just looked at me and waved me away and said, "That's fine." I really wanted to call him an ass and give him some life advice, but decided not to. They did leave, though.
it happened evrywhere, like in my school X(
some people in my school hate one of my friend, n i just dont know how to help her. so sad
btw, merry xmas evryone..!
huh