Which is more important, Science or religion?
Religion & Science
Which is more important?
Which is more important, Science or religion?
Which is more important?
- Science
- 150 votes
- Religion
- 51 votes
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What? My comment was neither a defending nor an attacking statement, what's the point in quoting it? Also, what do you mean by "guessed" wrong? I don't get it.
The fact is, we don't know who created us. That's the major issue, religion is too illogical to follow and how would we know whether if heaven or hell existed. We can't, that's why, unless you can somehow rise from the dead and have hard evidence of the place. Also, it's really easy to say there is no god and not feel weird.
Is that a joke? Do you even know what Science is? Why don't you post your definition of Science (without using a dictionary or anything else to define it for you) and tell us what you think Science is.
What's really funny is that you associate atheism with Science. Science has nothing to do with atheism, but since atheists tend not to have dogmatic belief systems, such as Christianity, so they are much more likely to be interested in Science than Christians are.
See also: http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/news/file002.html
Religion is important for keeping people together and keeping peace. I understand the importance of it, even if I do not actively follow any religion, nor do I plan on converting to any anytime soon.
Science is important for finding cures and keeping people alive. The only thing that science ever did wrong is disprove religion. In some beliefs, it is considered a sin, but really, people are just doing what they can to help other people.
Personally, I think science is more important. With science, we've saved millions of lives. With religion, we only think we've saved millions of lives. Even if we're "killing" some great god, science can probably prove that that great god didn't really exist in the first place.
lol, religion keeping peace? No offence, but religion causes nothing but conflict. The crusades was because the christians wanted their holy land back, theirs a sect of christianity in the states that wants the world to be destroyed so jesus will come down from heaven to save them, Theirs problems in Holland with the Muslims because their religion doesnt let people have freedom of speech which the dutch people believe so strongly in, the list could go one but id rather not right something ten pages long. Perhaps the only other thing that causes war would be greed, but religion is right up there. As for disproving religion, its going to happen eventually and then maybe people will bring their heads out of the clouds.
Why cast attention on the un-proven immaterial when there are problems and crises in the living world that need to be dealt with.
We need to stop looking to the non-existent divine and focus on the real world, otherwise the cancerous tumor that is humanity will destroy itself.
Better sooner than later, but that's just me
Agent Smith was right about us, I'll just leave it at that for now
Science, of course...
I would better follow something that can be proven than follow some crazy blind faith...
And I never heard that any technological advancement caused war...only heard about religion caused war...
Talking about the meaning of life and those kind of mind stuff...I'd better study philosophy more than put some faith in religion...as it still follows reason more than superstitious belief...
ProgramZERO...you're cool...one simple line that explains it all...
I dont vote for one more than the other I think that everything should have its balance in life, both are very important in our society.
merged: 06-24-2007 ~ 11:09am
I don't vote for one more than the other I think that everything should have its balance in life, both are very important in our society.
I vote for science. Science saved my life when I had cancer. I couldn't write this without science, and wars don't tend to get started over scientific laws. I feel beliefs about mysterious events such as the earths beginnings, aren't nearly as important as dealing with what we have on earth now.
I find it kinda sad that people have to believe in God because they can't simply believe in themselves. And the religious friends I have tell they find it sad a girl in my age just can't believe in God. Funny?
Even if religion has its goods (for being able to controle the humanity), I do believe science's more important right now. We have lives to save, things to discover before it's too late. To sit and pray may be good to reflect, but you can't depend on it to feel relief. You can't say you're not to blame if someone dies because you prayed for this one, 'cause the world wouldn't stop for a single prayer. The science is like the action, as the religion is (not always) the thinking. But only thinking won't get you anywhere. And the science thinks too. So I guess it won.
Science. It does help me out in practical things...
well, in science u have proof but in religion its all faith and no proof. soo i dunno...but for me, as a christian i think maybe God uses science. of course there are mircales but other things are science put into order by god. i mean those it seem coincedental that the universe was created, we evolved from apes and are here now on minitokyo?
I'm sorry but could the question be clearer? Science versus religion is an interesting debate but one problem would be in finding grounds for comparison. Comparing scientific mode of thinking to a religious mode of thinking? Or scientific beliefs to religious beliefs? As a way of thought, I believe each has its advantages. Scientific beliefs does do better under examination than religious ones though.
Both are important to me. However, even though I'm not a Christian I voted religion as being the most important. Science doesn't give me the hope to fight through the tough days - in fact, usually science depresses me. Man has made some horrific things with and in the name of science (although I do acknowledge that the same can be said of war and relgion going together all too often). When I talk about religion I'm talking of my own beliefs though - and those beliefs don't include extremism, which I don't agree with at all.
Interpret it how you want to. Maybe which one is overall more beneficial?
Religion != Christianity. It shouldn't matter if you're a Christian or not, if you're religious.
That humans could develop such an accurate way to understand the world gives me hope for humanity, if anything.
What have people made in the name of Science that was horrific? o.o
I've never heard of Science causing a war before. Maybe indirectly, such as competing nations worried about the technology of the other becoming two powerful, but that would be about having power, not about Science.
Science is most important than religion, I think that religion limites us
I believe science is needed,but not to try to disprove our Creator.Yes i know what science is, i just think people should put religion in front of science.Science is good to talk about when dealing with disease and structure make-ups, but religion is the divine reason for life and shouldnt be put behind your flask.
merged: 07-14-2007 ~ 10:32pm
Religion doesnt save in the afterlife,my friend but in life as well. Dont say religion doesnt save lives because your 100 percent wrong. Without religion, your gonna see many more suicides and no hope.and science may have saved a few lives,but what about the cool science to kill people with atomic bombs or explosive objects that look like a pen or a bag? Science is wonderful to have, but needs to limit itself to only helping and not hurting people.
Science doesn't deal with the god you believe in. It's methodologically naturalistic, which basically means it doesn't deal with supernatural stuff. Science can't really disprove your god unless you believe things about your god that have be proven to be untrue through scientific inquiry.
Of course, rationalizations when it comes to a god are almost always possible.
Um, what does "behind your flask" mean?
Science has done wonders for humanity and brought about unprecedented progress in all areas of human life. What has religion done? Like other ideologies that not only advocate peace, compassion, and reason, but also aggressive, bigoted views religious ideologies like Christianity and Islam have brought about a lot of completely unnecessary ignorance and suffering. They promise eternal life after death, but only if you listen to what God supposedly tells you to do, be it killing infidels, trying to convert the "unsaved," denying any Scientific knowledge that contradicts your beliefs, indoctrinating children, being a bigot towards homosexuals or those who hold different beliefs, or any other despicable act.
Science is trying to get involved with religion by mentioning the Big Bang theory,so your wrong when you say science doesnt deal with religion.you dont know what that phrase means?its another way of saying dont put religion behind science.And i thought you would be educated enough to know that.And for the last time,religion doesnt cause conflict,its the people who have the religion who start it.God didnt say let there be war!people said that because they feel strongly about their religion.so you are wrong once more.any questions?
Science, not only because I'm an atheist, but simply because human society is advanced by science, and not religion. Religion is useful to the individual "soul," sure, in that it gives them peace of mind, community, and a comforting answer to the scary questions that people have a tendency to ask themselves, but those things don't actually help a society progress. In fact, no one can argue that more wars have been started by basis of religion than any other subject.
Science is secular, and the goal of scientific progress is neither to prove nor disprove religious theories, but simply to better understand the world that people live in in order to improve life for people. Science and religion can work hand in hand; the study and practice of medicine has long been the duty of monks, for example.
Science in itself is innocent. Scientists aren't trying to "disprove the Creator," but rather just to explore the world. If it turns out that the actual facts of our reality are different than religious theories, then it just underlines the obvious fact that religious philosophers of thousands of years ago did not have the scientific equipment or knowledge that we do today, and thus were likely to make incorrect assumptions.
Science is facts, and whether you believe them or not, that doesn't change that they're facts. And no matter how comforted we may be by them, religious concepts and theories don't make the world go round--reality does. The goal of science is to explain reality. The religious observers of old were trying to do the same thing--just consider today's scientific discoveries updates. :P
As stated by embershadow, science is just facts, (or in this case a theory that's been tested over and over to create matter and anti-matter)
Religion isn't only a source of hope, it can be the one that destroys it. Just look at the jewish (if you're racist, go away) during World War II. During the concentration camps, they kept trying to hold onto their faith and sooner or later, they're broke and just became like drones that pratically just walk around saying they're going to die.
Hope can come from many other things, such as love, and if you never experienced it... nevermind then... Though just on any angle, as I've seen, anything on hope is a double edged sword, it's the one that creates and destroys it.
How would religion not be creating hatred and war? I mean look at the populations of homosexuals and such, it's considered a sin and the "followers" may act violently towards then and usually do. Please don 't say that it's a choice to be homosexual, the fact is it's not, we were all born a way whether homosexual, bisexual, heterosexual, or others (others doesn't have to be someone's sexuality) and to say that "god" created everyone and to specifically exclude people just because it's god's fault, how stupid is that?
first....lets say jews had the perfect religion and they would go to heaven.that means if they did die,they would go to heaven and live in eternity with their creator.most people want to live in paradise and also people may even hate earth as it is.There is no bad form of hope,only the people who seek to destroy hope such as you mentioned,the nazis who murdered the jews.God did create everyone and he didnt exclude anything for your information.or do YOU feel excluded?if so...then case closed.and i dont know the exact facts about homosexuals and the bible,only God does and we will have to ask such questions when we leave this sinful world.By the way, i still stick by my piont in which religion doesnt create war. Its simple to argue why it isnt...
The Big Bang theory is not an example of Science "trying to get involved with religion" (even though what I said was that it doesn't deal with the supernatural), it's an example of a scientific theory on the origins of the Universe. It's also a perfect example of what I was talking about when I said, "Science can't really disprove your god unless you believe things about your god that have be proven to be untrue through scientific inquiry." If your god could not have created the Big Bang because your religious texts state otherwise, then your god probably doesn't exist. It's also possible that your religious texts are wrong about your god in that area, that the Big Bang theory is wrong, or even that your god was just trying to screw with us by creating the evidence for the Big Bang theory. However, one has to weigh the likelihood of each of these possibilities. The most likely one, given out current knowledge, is the Big Bang theory is accurate. The one of the best rationalizations for this conclusion, given that your god exists, is that your religious texts are mistaken as they were written by people who had no way of knowing how the Universe actually "came into existence."
Um, I looked it up in Google and there was only one website that used the phrase "behind your flask" and it didn't have the meaning of so I'm not sure education is the issue here.
And for the last time,religion doesnt cause conflict,its the people who have the religion who start it.God didnt say let there be war!people said that because they feel strongly about their religion.so you are wrong once more.any questions?
and whats that scientific theory trying to prove?its saying that almighty god didnt create the earth but a spontanous explosion did without the help of supernatural force.your going in circles and you dont know it.and behind the flask is too simple of a phrase especially when dealing with the subject of science...still dont understand?then to bad.
happiness is the most important...