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666 satan

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Please i am begging you tell me how to improve more T_T T_T T_T
i tried my best but everything is not alright all the time

So... just tell me honestly.Thank you

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e130/nizsu/kirin2copy.jpg

1)The background is poorly made.
2)I do not understand the wall
3)Whats with the pickle?
4)Do pickles look like that?It looks more like a ginseng root to me..
5)You have to make people understand the wall and what you want to portray...

Questions - Please have them answered..
1)What are you trying to do?
2)What theme are you trying to portray?
3)What background are you trying to do?

Lastly,no offence..I'm sorry if I was rude.

. . .yes actually i havent seen a pickle in my life -_-
its not rude at all, u re giving ur honest ideas. finnally i know i am not good and noob. i would try to work harder and have ur questions answered

I was a noob before..or more accurately I have only just been promoted to the rank of the beginners...I'm sure you'll do well on it when you thought of how the wall suppose to be..Hmm...here are some of my suggestions..

Why not try a different approach?Add a table in front of the scan where there are papers strewn all over the table and he was thinking to himself how hard homework is,put a window in front of the table and maybe a picture on the table or on the wall,and also a table lamp.You could find a table lamp using stock photos,maybe paint over it or vector it so that it has an anime texture.There are a lot of tutorials over the net as well as MT itself,you can go to Paint-o-Rama

lol, dunno if I was the only one who found it hilarious, even if the whole background was made randomly with the default tools on whatever program, i like it haha, i dont understand it either, haha there's a pickle king
it could be a win wallpaper if you could improve your skills with the program but I totally recommend you to keep the idea if there is one to start, but really, did you vector the guy? if you did then it'll be easy for you to retain the idea; just look for a nice picture of a door, make a simple vector of it, instead of doing that weird colorful background, pick one color and fill it or you can always use a gradient (believe me sometimes less is more) and just keep the "omg im a pickle king and im about to explode" idea

if you dont understood a word of what i said you can always ask too.

err... actually I received a critique that I am reliant on stock filter too much and my vector is angular ;_;

So I tried to draw flowers and petals in the background. But then it looked a little bit plain. Eventually, i used a stock photo and changed it a little bit ( use stock filter again -_-). I don't know if it is better or totally worse but. . . if you don't mind can you take a look at it

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e130/nizsu/kirin3.jpg

I know it is a mess T_T, just tell me your opinion or even a critique, it helps me take a honest look in my skills. I am appreciate that T_T. Thank you a lot too FutatsuNoNegai and alterlier. (Futatsu you know I have 2 Maylaysian friends and they are very kind too^^)

Ditch the filtered background (or replace it with a sky or something like that) and remove the motion blur/shadow on the flower and the petals.

it doesnt look good really with that filter on the stock, believe me it's not gonna look plain if you just leave it with a simple background because in fact when you are vectoring the idea is that the main thing to focus stay as the vector itself, so I recommend you to take out that bg and take out the other vector of the guy (the small head you put) and instead try to add more detail-ish vectored flowers to the background to make a nice balance.

arh. . . so this is what I came up with. Can you take a look at it? thank a bunch

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e130/nizsu/kirin3-1.jpg

The new version looks a lot better already. I suggest you work some more on the guy's and flower's vector, as for now it looks really blurry and untidy. I'm not sure about those red dots, I asume they're supposed to be blood splatters? If that's the case maybe you wanna try looking for some brushes (I know tama-neko has some great brushes of splatters and stains on her page for downloading).
Good luck to you.

Oh..how you know I'm a Malaysian?XD Anyway,if you're lucky,(obviously you are) you'll meet good Malaysians if otherwise..Never mind..

I've seen the two version..Hmm...At least you let the outer glow or stroke go..The background is a bit too plain..The point is to bring out the character and the background,there's one thing I still don't understand..why flowers?And I don't really see their connection with the character though...Let me see a better wall and I know you can do it!Read the character...feel it...express it...

Ganbatte!And sorry if I was rude...^^

I think this new version is way more better than the other ones, as Erdbeermilch I suggest a little bit of work on the flower, which looks good but kinda blurry indeed.
it doenst neccesarly looks plain, when there are few things but they a detailed enough there's not too much to worry about, maybe now that the flower looks good why you dont add more detail to the guy? like some shadows on his arm or a nice design in his clothes? also I suggest you to instead of using black and white for the background gradient try to use some colors of the other vectors that you are working with, like for example the strong green on the shadow of the flower could be the strong color of the gradient and some gray as complementary.
also...dont bother sometimes trying to make all the things logical or understandable to the other sights, it can be random, or it can be real....it can be as you like them to be.

I just want to express that he had a hard childhood, so I thought of flowers with blood. Flowers are something pure like everyone's childhood, and the flowers got blood on it, i wanted to mean his childhood was dirty with blood -_- I donno whether it sounds logical... X_X Or are flowers only suitable with the girls? ...

Now i am not free enough but soon I will fix the blood splatter like Erdbeermilch said and working on the strong green as well^^. There's no design on his clothes in the original image, its just black and white X_X but i would try to add some...

I am sorry for my crappy english.

ps thank alterlier, futatsunonegai,erdbeermilch and northy very much for giving me ideas of how to work better :D I would show u guys another revision soon

how to improve? well you could compare your work with some professional art you like (just something you can find here in MT) and see what makes your pic look bad. then try improve in those aspects.

but everything you do is experience you get. try to appreciate everything you do and learn from your mistakes.
none does something incredibly great at the first try, it takes time.

For an amature I think it looked really good dude! Just keep it up and you'll get better.

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