Christanity and Islam: Are they that different?
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Which religon do you prefer?
Christanity and Islam: Are they that different?
Which religon do you prefer?
- Buddhisim
- 22 votes
- Hinduisim
- 0 votes
- Judaisim
- 1 votes
- Islam
- 40 votes
- Other Religon(state if wanted)
- 10 votes
- Christianity
- 28 votes
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oooo...wow!...so much question...but...i think i will put this to end because of my limited knowledge about Islam...but...because of my limited of knowledge...i will answer what i can answer...i'm sorry maybe not all of your question i can answer because of my limited knowledge and also because i don't understand your 'high' level of english....i'm not planning to 'serve' this blog for a long time of period...the first time i've got into this just only to get a little of experience how is it the situation here..and today...i will put this to end...i will answer which part that i understand and i'm sorry which part that i didn't understand...i'm sorry to leave it...
merged: 12-14-2007 ~ 07:48pm
oppss wrong..hehehe..many
merged: 12-14-2007 ~ 08:00pm
well....hahaha..i'm sorry to say...but...i will defend my religion with my life beyondmeasure!
I hope that is just a figure of speech...Because the fanatical plankton that call themselves Muslim in the Middle East are a really, really sad bunch.
.........for this question...i'm not like them!...please don't think like that!..i'm just doing my jihad for Islam with the right way...not self-destruct my self or any other kind of wrong perspective about jihad!...i'm just want to spread Islam with my heart...not through violence!...i'm spreading Islam..but it's them who will accept or not...Islam is not a violence and not a forcing religion...they will accept Islam with their own willing.....
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i hope you will find your true destiny...what i meant that your true DESTINY...not an atheists
I'm afraid that each individual threads their own path in life. Atheists should not be looked upon so unkindly because of their denial of any supreme being: They are what they choose to be.
.....ok...for this...i'm sorry to be rude..but i just can't accept this so called 'atheists'...but..my advice...please....find your true religion...don't be in the darkness of this 'meanwhile' world..it is important to you to have a faith....this is for ...beyondmeasure..
merged: 12-14-2007 ~ 08:10pm
Quote by saha
ooo...and for you...Sulibres...can i know what is your religion?...please don't tell me you are an atheists...
If you use religion for anything else other than finding peace within one's self, you are a disgrace to your religion. That's what I believe.
....oo...i'm sorry to say that...maybe i'm in a bad mood...hehehe....if you...whatever religion you are holding...actually...it's just a question...not to mean anything...
merged: 12-14-2007 ~ 08:53pm
Well, anyway, saha, I do presume, that, like the God of Christians, your Allah is also omnipotent and all-loving, right?
erm...maybe this is your question...yes...now...i let you read the 99names of ALLAH S.W.T...
The All Beneficent,The Most Merciful,The King, The Sovereign,The Most Holy,The Peace and Blessing,The Guarantor,The Guardian..The Preserver,The Almighty..The Self Sufficient,The Powerful.. The Irresistible,The Tremendous,The Creator,The Rightful,The Fashioner of Forms,The Ever Forgiving,The All Compelling Subduer,The Bestower,The Ever Providing,The Opener..The Victory Giver,The All Knowing.. The Omniscient,The Restrainer..The Straightener,The Expander..The Munificent,The Abaser,The Exalter,The Giver of Honour,The Giver of Dishonour,The All Hearing,The All Seeing,The Judge..The Arbitrator,The Utterly Just,The Subtly Kind,The All Aware,The Forbearing..The Indulgent,The Magnificent..The Infinite,The All Forgiving,The Grateful,The Sublimely Exalted,The Great,The Preserver,The Nourisher,The Reckoner,The Majestic,The Bountiful..The Generous,The Watchful,The Responsive....The Answerer,The Vast.........The All Encompassing,The Wise,The Loving.... The Kind One,The All Glorious,The Raiser of The Dead,The Witness,The Truth..The Real,The Trustee.....The Dependable,The Strong,The Firm........The Steadfast,The Protecting Friend....Patron and Helper,The All Praiseworthy,The Accounter....The Numberer of All,The Producer...Originator..........and Initiator of All,The Reinstater Who Brings Back All,The Giver of Life,The Bringer of Death...The Destroyer,The Ever Living,The Self Subsisting Sustainer of All,The Perceiver....The Finder...The Unfailing,The Illustrious...The Magnificent,The One...The Unique..Manifestation of Unity,The One...the All Inclusive...The Indivisible,The Self Sufficient...The Impregnable...The Eternally Besought of All....The Everlasting,The All Able,The All Determiner...The Dominant,The Expediter...He Who Brings Forward,The Delayer...He Who Puts Far Away,The First,The Last,The Manifest..The All Victorious,The Hidden...The All Encompassing,The Patron,The Self Exalted,The Most Kind and Righteous,The Ever Returning......Ever Relenting,The Avenger,The Pardoner...The Effacer of Sins,The Compassionate...The All Pitying,The Owner of All Sovereignty,The Lord of Majesty and Generosity,The Equitable...The Requiter,The Gatherer..The Unifier,The All Rich...The Independent,The Enricher...The Emancipator,The Withholder... The Shielder...the Defender,The Distressor...The Harmer (This attribute can only be found in hadith),The Propitious...The Benefactor,The Light,The Guide,The Incomparable...The Originator,The Ever Enduring and Immutable,The Heir...The Inheritor of All,The Guide........Infallible Teacher and Knower,The Patient.....The Timeless.
merged: 12-14-2007 ~ 09:04pm
...erm...it's time for me to go...erm...forever...
but...thanks to all of you ...with each question you ask me...i'm building my faith towards ALLAH S.W.T
thanks to you all because of using......the rare english words...it increases my knowledge...
my hope...please search the true and right Islamic site for your question...do not trust the website that is not certified...or any enemies of Islam...for all of your question about Islam....
i hope all of you in this blog...i hope you all will have a peace conversation or whatever in this blog...
thanks to all....i hope even we are different in religions...we will be a good friend to each other...this advice is also for me and all of you in here....
to all...THANKS....
merged: 12-14-2007 ~ 09:09pm
opppsss...not yet...another two question...
Now I'm not trying to be harsh here, but are you admitting to not having a full understanding of your holy scripture and your God? If so, then perhaps you have made your statements a little too quickly.
And on a certain note, I am not your friend, but I am not your enemy either.
Quote by saha
beyondmeasure....can't you realize that a world with just creations that worship Him...theres no point of God to create His creatures....
...i know i'm not fully learnt about Islam because it is a vast field...but...when you are asking me question...i'm telling you what i know...
merged: 12-14-2007 ~ 09:14pm
Quote by saha
hahaha...Quote:
ALLAH created humans and jinns only to whorship Him....
So which is it?
i'm not so sure what is your question is...but..i think you are asking about jinns...we cannot see them...but..they live among us..they also have faith...i'm meant that..religions..erm... an invisible spirit mentioned in the AL-QURAN to inhabit the earth and appearing in the form of humans or animals...
merged: 12-14-2007 ~ 09:18pm
Quote by saha
beyondmeasure....can't you realize that a world with just creations that worship Him...theres no point of God to create His creatures....
I'm sorry but your reply contradicts your earlier statement:
...erm...i think this is not a question....hehehe...
merged: 12-14-2007 ~ 09:18pm
ok...then...bye...
I'm sorry... but... what the hell just happened? I mean... like... I see 10 posts merged... I can barely understand what it is...
He...posted 10 times without anyone else posting in between? From 7.48 - 9.18pm apparently O_O
OK, that's by far the weirdest thing I've ever seen.
And listing all 99 names of Allah's just plain.......weird O_o And as far as I can see, it doesn't answer the question either. Saha do you know what's the meaning of omnipotent?
ooo...hehehe...i forgot to state the names...
merged: 12-15-2007 ~ 08:34pm
erm...it seems that i cannot let this question to be unanswered...erm..
merged: 12-15-2007 ~ 08:35pm
this is mine...
...oooo...wow!...so much question...but...i think i will put this to end because of my limited knowledge about Islam...but...because of my limited of knowledge...i will answer what i can answer...i'm sorry maybe not all of your question i can answer because of my limited knowledge and also because i don't understand your 'high' level of english....i'm not planning to 'serve' this blog for a long time of period...the first time i've got into this just only to get a little of experience how is it the situation here..and today...i will put this to end...i will answer which part that i understand and i'm sorry which part that i didn't understand...i'm sorry to leave it...
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merged: 12-15-2007 ~ 08:38pm
this is my statements that i typed...
merged: 12-14-2007 ~ 08:00pm
well....hahaha..i'm sorry to say...but...i will defend my religion with my life beyondmeasure!
merged: 12-15-2007 ~ 08:41pm
this is Sulibres question....
I hope that is just a figure of speech...Because the fanatical plankton that call themselves Muslim in the Middle East are a really, really sad bunch.
this is my answer...
.........for this question...i'm not like them!...please don't think like that!..i'm just doing my jihad for Islam with the right way...not self-destruct my self or any other kind of wrong perspective about jihad!...i'm just want to spread Islam with my heart...not through violence!...i'm spreading Islam..but it's them who will accept or not...Islam is not a violence and not a forcing religion...they will accept Islam with their own willing.....
merged: 12-15-2007 ~ 08:49pm
this is my statements and below is Sulibres question and below it is my answer...
i hope you will find your true destiny...what i meant that your true DESTINY...not an atheists
I'm afraid that each individual threads their own path in life. Atheists should not be looked upon so unkindly because of their denial of any supreme being: They are what they choose to be.
.....ok...for this...i'm sorry to be rude..but i just can't accept this so called 'atheists'...but..my advice...please....find your true religion...don't be in the darkness of this 'meanwhile' world..it is important to you to have a faith....this is for ...beyondmeasure..
merged: 12-15-2007 ~ 09:04pm
this is my additional answer...
Islam is not a what most of them called 'violence'...Islam never prohibit Muslim to mixe with other religion believers...in fact Islam would like Muslim to foster relationship with non-Muslim...i'm sorry...but i also sometimes being racist...but i will look forward to fixe that...
merged: 12-15-2007 ~ 09:05pm
this is my statements and below is Sulibres question and below it is my answer...
ooo...and for you...Sulibres...can i know what is your religion?...please don't tell me you are an atheists...
If you use religion for anything else other than finding peace within one's self, you are a disgrace to your religion. That's what I believe.
....oo...i'm sorry to say that...maybe i'm in a bad mood...hehehe....if you...whatever religion you are holding...actually...it's just a question...not to mean anything...
merged: 12-15-2007 ~ 09:07pm
this is beyondmeasure question and below it is my answer...
Well, anyway, saha, I do presume, that, like the God of Christians, your Allah is also omnipotent and all-loving, right?
erm...maybe this is your question...yes...now...i let you read the 99names of ALLAH S.W.T...
The All Beneficent,The Most Merciful,The King, The Sovereign,The Most Holy,The Peace and Blessing,The Guarantor,The Guardian..The Preserver,The Almighty..The Self Sufficient,The Powerful.. The Irresistible,The Tremendous,The Creator,The Rightful,The Fashioner of Forms,The Ever Forgiving,The All Compelling Subduer,The Bestower,The Ever Providing,The Opener..The Victory Giver,The All Knowing.. The Omniscient,The Restrainer..The Straightener,The Expander..The Munificent,The Abaser,The Exalter,The Giver of Honour,The Giver of Dishonour,The All Hearing,The All Seeing,The Judge..The Arbitrator,The Utterly Just,The Subtly Kind,The All Aware,The Forbearing..The Indulgent,The Magnificent..The Infinite,The All Forgiving,The Grateful,The Sublimely Exalted,The Great,The Preserver,The Nourisher,The Reckoner,The Majestic,The Bountiful..The Generous,The Watchful,The Responsive....The Answerer,The Vast.........The All Encompassing,The Wise,The Loving.... The Kind One,The All Glorious,The Raiser of The Dead,The Witness,The Truth..The Real,The Trustee.....The Dependable,The Strong,The Firm........The Steadfast,The Protecting Friend....Patron and Helper,The All Praiseworthy,The Accounter....The Numberer of All,The Producer...Originator..........and Initiator of All,The Reinstater Who Brings Back All,The Giver of Life,The Bringer of Death...The Destroyer,The Ever Living,The Self Subsisting Sustainer of All,The Perceiver....The Finder...The Unfailing,The Illustrious...The Magnificent,The One...The Unique..Manifestation of Unity,The One...the All Inclusive...The Indivisible,The Self Sufficient...The Impregnable...The Eternally Besought of All....The Everlasting,The All Able,The All Determiner...The Dominant,The Expediter...He Who Brings Forward,The Delayer...He Who Puts Far Away,The First,The Last,The Manifest..The All Victorious,The Hidden...The All Encompassing,The Patron,The Self Exalted,The Most Kind and Righteous,The Ever Returning......Ever Relenting,The Avenger,The Pardoner...The Effacer of Sins,The Compassionate...The All Pitying,The Owner of All Sovereignty,The Lord of Majesty and Generosity,The Equitable...The Requiter,The Gatherer..The Unifier,The All Rich...The Independent,The Enricher...The Emancipator,The Withholder... The Shielder...the Defender,The Distressor...The Harmer (This attribute can only be found in hadith),The Propitious...The Benefactor,The Light,The Guide,The Incomparable...The Originator,The Ever Enduring and Immutable,The Heir...The Inheritor of All,The Guide........Infallible Teacher and Knower,The Patient.....The Timeless.
this 99names of ALLAH S.W.T. is just an extra information...
merged: 12-15-2007 ~ 09:12pm
this two are Sulibres statements..but..it is not a question...erm..i think so..
Now I'm not trying to be harsh here, but are you admitting to not having a full understanding of your holy scripture and your God? If so, then perhaps you have made your statements a little too quickly.
And on a certain note, I am not your friend, but I am not your enemy either.
merged: 12-15-2007 ~ 09:17pm
this is my statements and below is Sulibres question...
Quote by saha
beyondmeasure....can't you realize that a world with just creations that worship Him...theres no point of God to create His creatures....
I'm sorry but your reply contradicts your earlier statement:
merged: 12-15-2007 ~ 09:23pm
this is my statements, below is Sulibres Question, and below that is my answer..
Quote by saha
hahaha...Quote:
ALLAH created humans and jinns only to whorship Him....
So which is it?
...that's why we must worship Him..ALLAH S.W.T. .... because of that He created a true religion to guide His creatures to worship Him....we cannot worship other than Him......
merged: 12-15-2007 ~ 09:28pm
this is Sulibres question..i think so...hehe...and below is my answer...
Now I'm not trying to be harsh here, but are you admitting to not having a full understanding of your holy scripture and your God? If so, then perhaps you have made your statements a little too quickly.
...i know i'm not fully learnt about Islam because it is a vast field...but...when you are asking me question...i'm telling you what i know...
merged: 12-15-2007 ~ 09:30pm
erm...i've corrected the mistakes....
merged: 12-15-2007 ~ 09:31pm
...erm...it's time for me to go...erm...forever...
but...thanks to all of you ...with each question you ask me...i'm building my faith towards ALLAH S.W.T
thanks to you all because of using......the rare english words...it increases my knowledge...
my hope...please search the true and right Islamic site for your question...do not trust the website that is not certified...or any enemies of Islam...for all of your question about Islam....
i hope all of you in this blog...i hope you all will have a peace conversation or whatever in this blog...
thanks to all....i hope even we are different in religions...we will be a good friend to each other...this advice is also for me and all of you in here....
to all...THANKS....
merged: 12-15-2007 ~ 09:31pm
ok...bye...
merged: 12-15-2007 ~ 09:34pm
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merged: 12-15-2007 ~ 09:34pm
ok then...bye...
You're doing it again...my advise for you is to try not to post in succession like that. It's just...hard to read and i think it kinda qualifies as spamming but I'm not sure O_o Also...try quoting to make it less confusing. [ quote ] TEXT [ /quote ]
And this is not a blog saha...
Sorry about that I thought you didn't answer his question. My bad. The long list of Allah's names kinda distracts attention.
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not only, but also make His kingdom getting bigger n bigger. n it's not a strange that we've those obligations.. bcoz He's our creator.
wut r u doing in this thread, juna..
I'm a Muslim..(i was convertd when i had 18)and for all who said that Islam is not the right religion,just read the Qur'An...i'll give you some evidences :
In the Qur'An,they talked about the Black Hole...Did human discover Black Hole existence in that moment? of course not...
Here is a second one...they mentioned the existence of 7 planets and a sun in the solar system...Did human know about that before? no of course.
well,there many other evidences that prove Islam is the right religion...
by the way, i have nothing against atheists (i have many Atheist friends) but i hope for them to be more open minded and check at least the Qur'An before saying somethings false like what said "beyondmeasure"
anyway like said Allah in the Muhammad to the none-worshippers "you have your own religion,like we have our own religion" that's why there is nothing true when they say God command muslim to press others to convert to the Islam...peace
ah and i think that Islam and Christianism come from the same basics...but they're not similar...
i respect your religion...but I have also done research on Islam,and found it to be based on strong doubt....such as people always saying that muhammed did this miracle and that,and yet,if im correct,the quran says he never did any of these miracles because he didnt want to.
truth be told,i really think Islam is false overall,and very decieving...yes,I just said something that could be offensive,but I have good reason to suspect so....
Muhammed was a nobody who seemed confused and neutral about his religion...but he clearly states that he liked the ideas of the Judiasm and Christianity.Afterwards,(my theory),he kept balancing these two religions he liked so much,probably studying them at least a little,and coming to the conclusion....I will make my own religion based off of these 2 religions i like.So he went to this mosque and then supposably spoke to the angel gabriel....this is interesting because after he would have studied the old testament,he would have read about gabriel,the angel,from the torah and the bible.He lied about this name and since it was known by people,they thought he was worth while listening to....He made a religion that just wanted to spread his ideas of how the right religion would be...by combining them into one....so he made these things up about the angel....
also,the idea of traveling to mecca and medina and such is ridiculous.To go to heaven,you need not to travel to some earthly city or town....there is a savior who has died for your sins.and lastly i want to point out that meteorite that supposably came from heaven...sorry to say it...but it came from space...simple as that....things dont come flying out of heaven for us humans to celebrate.What say you,my muslim friend?
P.S...our God's are different...Allah is not the God who wrote our bible...I just wanted to establish that.
another P.S...the bible points out health facts about meats in the old testament that nobody knew of at the time...so your Quran shouldnt win much support off of your weak facts,since the bible contains things like these as well...
buddhist prolly safest one.... like...... i meant its a way of life... not really a religion you follow
but it really has no basis....just says be peaceful,mediatate,and you will go to heaven....but realize you dont go to heaven for the works you do on earth...just to remind you.
(and it's impossible to be sinnless and completely at peace and have no temptation...no such thing)
what you mean basis? Besides i think its good they dont value earthly possesions much, just attain inner happines to live a full and good life, thats how i see buddhism.
Im an atheist though, but id choose christianity because of its respect/compassion for life and other people. Buddhism has something unsettling about it, selfish perhaps, and that stands in the way of progress.
And saha,
Religion isnt a necessity to life, so dont think athiests 'need' a religion to live as happy as other people.
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Flawed reasoning i believe. line 2.
How's that flawed?
In the end, most religions share the same tenents and have the same moral principles. If you think about it, without that belief that there is consequences to your actions on Earth, what, in the end, would prevent people from being completely self-serving in everything they do? Religion serves as a way for people to be accountable for their actions while living to prevent that trip to hell after death.
yeah, my teacher told that, too. he keep saying that islam isnt rite n has different theory with christian, bcoz Muhammad is like ehm,.. made a religion, inspired with those ideas-i forgot wut ideas.
The assumption is too great.
It implies that if you love something that thing must love you back.
It implies that an omnipotent being that felt love towards its creation would make them so that its creation woud love it back.
But because we have free will there is no god is the conclusion, however it is not a valid argument, as religions would say free will was given to us.
Love from a higher being is somewhat different than what most atheists think it is, or so i believe, if we could prove there was no god in a scientific way some1 would have done it by now.
This is a very sensitive issue actually, Christianity is very different from Islam, one of the reasons is because they serve different Gods. Their ways if going to heaven is also different, and the people who are Islams do different things compared to the Christians, and there is definitely a Go, no doubt about it. People think that it has the same elements, because it has the same objectives, like to make people happy, go to heaven, or glorify their God and stuff like that. Because Christianity isn't a religion, it is a relationship with the God, and that is one of the difference. By the way, I'm a Christian. besides, in our Bible, everything in it was fulfilled, and how did the book of Revelation come about? And besides, the things mentioned in the book of Revelation that talked about the things that are about to be fulfilled came true, and I think that is different from the Qur'an. Like the "there will be war and natural disasters which will signal the second coming of Jesus Christ".I didn't use the exact words.
the thing is that u cant prove it, anyone cant, so we cant say that God isnt exist, just bcoz we cant see it doesnt mean He isnt exist
thanks for repeating me. I know, stating the obvious is important.
yes, that is true
Whooa slow down. God did not wite the Bible and Allah did not write the Qur'An. God inspired the writers of the Christian Bible and later the church assembled those writings. The Qur'an was dictated to Muhammad (correct me if I am wrong on the Qur'An origin)
As to the "scientific facts" many people quote as being source from the Bible or Qur'An please try again as analysis of those passages generally proves them to be so vague they could be talking about fairies for all we know. Unless you have the authors explanation of his writings (as far as I know that exists only for the Old Testament in the Dead Sea Scrolls) don't go there unless you wish to look foolish.
This is especially true of Chrsitianity, Islam, and Judaism since they can all be traced back to the same source.
Ummm, I think you missed a fact or two. God, Allah, or Yahweh are the same being regardless of how much one religion wants to claim theirs is the only true God. This is proven simply by reviewing the history of these religions which leads to the inescapable conclusion that we all worship the same God (at the most basic level) and we fight over which method of worship and beliefs is correct (which is really really idiotic in my opinion)
These examples are our different beliefs and not differences in God.
Ummm, this is a pretty "adult" discussion lol, dunno what I'm doing here, the thread title looked interesting though...Well, everyone in our family( and a lot of our relatives ) are Catholic, but I don't really focus on the differences with others, like, a number of students in my school are Protestants, and some people say they're different, but I think it just divides people...not a very good thing.
I don't think Christians and Muslims are that different, they both believe in God and that He's a guide and a light for people. I think we have enough things that divide us to add another, right? Believe me, I know, because Spain is a very regional and sometimes divided country. Like, sometimes Catalans consider themselves different from the Spanish or the Basques or the Galicians...so many divisions.
Well, I may sound naive, but I don't think it helps that we divide people into so many groups, because of religion, or race, or language or whatever. Hope I made sense..^_____^' ( lols, nice to see you here, Mnemeth-san, even dragons have religion too, it seems
...)
If you talking about evoluting their philophies in some,but still,well what I don't like it about Islam is their little male chauvinism, if a woman make adultery have to be stoned and the man if he does is not,that's really unfair. the man have 7 wifes and woman 2 husbands,is that really marriage between 2 lovers?is one of the reasons that I don't believe marriage as really expressing love for each other and respect.desrespect women like that.
the rest of it is that they believe in the same God as christians and jewish in their way,I think that is what really minds.
and as for me Christianity is a movement since exist so many christians religions and divided by some diferent Churchs (like greek,catolic and protestant are diferent and Jehovah's witnesses)
and I think Budhism have some simalarities with Christianity of course a lot of differences.
well to start off,im surprised nobody has opposed my side on how I feel about the whole muslim enterprise of Islam....Guess I must have a firm stand in this type of debate...anyway...
I know that God didnt write the bible,nor did allah write the quran.I was simply pointing out that God wanted the bible to exist,and how he isnt the same God who supposably wanted the quran to exist...get it?I put up a sophisticated argument,and you think I made that type of mistake?
sadly your comment about me even looking foolish was foolish in itself...the bible clearly informs mankind,and not fairies,or any other fairy tale monster you have in your little imagination.it also mentions nations on planet earth which tells you it was meant for us,not the aliens on jupiter.And yes,the dead sea scrolls are good evidence,so how about you step down from your radical stand and lighten up alittle,ok?