I think that if all the money in the world disappeared, people wouldn't want to
have so many things. If money had no importance to everybody's life, it would be
easier not to be a greedy person.
If all the world's money disappeared, crime would be affected; there wouldn't be
any more crime since there would be no money to steal.
However, if there were no money in the whole wide world, I would feel unhappy
because I don't really know what could happen to everybody. Maybe nobody would
go to work.
i think we'd just print more money, and that would cost some time so in the
meantime people would probably pay on debt and credit. Its impossible to
fullfill the specefic functions we need people to do without paying them in some
way, otherwise every1 in the world would need to be self-supporting. And i doubt
theres enough land for every1 to become a farmer.
Thats not true, even if money disappeared, something would appear in its place,
E.G. Gold coin or Bartering goods is a form of exchange normally handled by
money, but instead of pieces of paper being money, the object exchanged becomes
that.
Also there would still be crime as there is still property to be stolen and alot
of things in this world that are stolen are anything but money, like jewelry
being one of them.
Also my opnnion is, if money didnt exist in some form, we would have no
effective way to exchange our labor, and goods for other labor and
goods.
E.G.
I have several cows, and I want shoes that only another individual produces, do
I cut the cow in half and reduce its value (maybe its a meat cow, maybe its a
milk cow heck doesnt even matter) now that I have killed it, it will began to
rot and I start using out on how to sustain myself.
Also another thing is the shoe maker might not even want cow at that point or to
use it for the purpose of meat? So I have to search around all over the place
for someone who wants half a cow, then i have to get a object from them that the
shoe maker would want.
See how inefficient barter is, money is more efficient as it serves as a Store
of value, a means of exchange, a unit of account (meaning things can be priced
in terms of this item).
The best system to employ so there is greatest efficiency, is a Paper mine
backed by gold.
Reason being, that banks and the government wont have any means to print money
to pay for their expenses but would have to tax and keep themselves minimal to
the function that should be performing (aka Protecting private property and
personal liberties in a particular doctrine, in my case the Bill Of Rights) Any
other function of Government just produces waste and messes up incentives for us
all to produce things more effectively.
I think money has no limit in form. Gold is money. Pounds are money. Paper is
money. Metal is money. Everything could be considered money. When I think money,
I think value. And if you take that away, there pretty much wouldn't be any
value to anything. Value as in: this costs $n and this costs $x.
Of course, an object would be more valuable to one person than another, but I
won't get into that or I'll just end up confusing myself.
But when you say if all the world's money disappeared, do you mean suddenly or
there was no money to begin with?
If money was suddenly not there. Things would be peaceful? Probably not, instead
of paying for something, one would probably have to fight for it. The same thing
would go if there was no concept of money to begin with.
Edit. Wow. I think I've just realized how
genius the concept of money is
I doubt money will run out because if our currency AKA, Coins and bills ran out,
we'd use a different type of currency since some random person is gonna make up
a random type of money.
Well I think we are confusing the concept of money, with value.
The reason reason paper is money is the government has Legal Tender laws
declaring its use to pay back debts public and private, however in the past in
the United States money was backed by Gold & Sliver .
Lets say there was no Legal Tender laws denoting that pieces of paper are
required for debts and taxes, would the paper be money? Only if people accepted
it in exchange for goods and services.
Gold and Silver, clam shells etc, whatever were all accepted as people valued
them, I doubt people would value a fiat money system if there wasn't a legal
requirement in having it.
As a side note to Melymay
Dollars, Pounds, Francs, Marks were all names of a certain weight of gold or
silver before the fiat paper revolution which allowed governments to print money
without stop to pay for their debts.
Consider the United States Of America,
We have a US Treasury, we have A Federal Reserve and we have the Government Debt
section.
Anytime our government has a budget deficit, they have to auction off debt to
the primary dealers (Preaccepted Banking Corporations that get to buy the debt
first at a discount, then sell it back at a slight discount to the public so
they can make their money, so in essence underwrite US Gov Debt)
Now our Federal Reserve System, gate keeper and protector of the Financal system
and the economy, provides a liquid secondary market for Gov Debt, by offering
the banking community the ablitity to borrow money from the fed by pledging US
Debt securities from the treasury auctions, on top of that to increase or
decrease the amount of money in the Economy, they do what is called Open Market
Operations to buy US Gov securities when the economy is going though a
recession. The question is, how does the Federal Reserve buy US Gov securities?
IT simply writes its self a check, and the person who sells the bond, cashes it
in, and boom the bank has the allotted funds which they call forth if they need
physical cash brought to them. So to buy a financial asset all the Fed does in
essence is print Federal Reserve notes aka Dollars. The reverse of course is to
sell Government debt securties therefore pulling money out of
circulation.
That being said anytime you create more money you sow the seeds for inflation
which means purchasing power per dollar or any currency for that matter is
dilluted. Causing people on fixed incomes (like most wage earners and social
security and gov benefits people) to be effected by having less with the same
amount of money.
Might want to read Murray Riobard's Mystery Of Banking or History of
Money.
It goes though the failed adepts of getting a fiat money system to work without
hammering the citizens.
If all the world's money diasppeared right this second... There'd be anrachy.
People wanting payment in other things - food, items, houses/property, blood.
Money is just another form of barter. If people decided bottle caps were an
accepted form of currency, some people would hoard that and we would be in the
same position as before.
if money wouldnt exist, i assure u, that there wouldnt be war in the wolrd,
wouldnt be poor pple, and wouldnt exist all this problems we have becuz of the
money... i kinda hate it, but is necessary becuz all things are moved by
it.
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if money wouldnt exist, i assure u, that there wouldnt be war in the wolrd,
wouldnt be poor pple, and wouldnt exist all this problems we have becuz of the
money... i kinda hate it, but is necessary becuz all things are moved by
it.
so suck it, and lets hope it dissapears.
I don't completely agree with you. All wars aren't about money. Even without the
concept of money, I'm pretty sure there would still be boundaries. Some
countries would find more success that others. There would still be greedy
people, there's more reasons than money that causes war.
Quote:
if money wouldnt exist, i assure u, that there wouldnt be war in the wolrd,
wouldnt be poor pple, and wouldnt exist all this problems we have becuz of the
money... i kinda hate it, but is necessary becuz all things are moved by
it.
i think we live in happy world, all problems come with money, the greed make
possible worst things like wars only for possese more money! much people live in
the misery and poor because the corrupt people steal money from their
nations.... i think without money we clean this world of the greedy and corrupt
people.
note: every person is greedy. one more than the other.
money will just be created again because its one of the most handy things there
is. or do you want to go to the bank and store 500cows on your bankaccount .
another note: wars are not created by money. they are created by conflicts
between 2 or more ppl or by the selfisness of some human beings.
Quote by Davoi think we live in happy world,
all problems come with money, the greed make possible worst things like wars
only for possese more money! much people live in the misery and poor because the
corrupt people steal money from their nations.... i think without money we clean
this world of the greedy and corrupt people.
Money has nothing to do with it. Greed is caused by greedy people, not money. If
there was no money wars would be fought over chickens or oil (which i can see a
war over oil happening if things don't shape up in real life).
all the money disappeared will make the world unite under 1 communism rule where
everyone is on the same level.
no economy. foodstuff and other daily needs will be distributed fairly.
corruption will be less frequent, or will be none at all
Are you people aware we're on a "phantom currency"? Everything's just
numbers. If somebody made a typo in your account and made it zero, you would
have nothing to back that claim up. Since nearly all of the earth's economies
are based on phantom numbers, there would be a huge dropout if somebody made
everything a "0"....there would be neverending chaos, literally.
Taking statistics aside...
If there were no money, it would be a little difficult to trade fairly. We would
have to resort back to bartering and finding alternative means for currency,
such as shells or something else. So yeah, there would still be greed.
I think that if all the money in the world disappeared, people wouldn't want to have so many things. If money had no importance to everybody's life, it would be easier not to be a greedy person.
If all the world's money disappeared, crime would be affected; there wouldn't be any more crime since there would be no money to steal.
However, if there were no money in the whole wide world, I would feel unhappy because I don't really know what could happen to everybody. Maybe nobody would go to work.
What do you suggest will happen?
i think we'd just print more money, and that would cost some time so in the meantime people would probably pay on debt and credit. Its impossible to fullfill the specefic functions we need people to do without paying them in some way, otherwise every1 in the world would need to be self-supporting. And i doubt theres enough land for every1 to become a farmer.
Thats not true, even if money disappeared, something would appear in its place, E.G. Gold coin or Bartering goods is a form of exchange normally handled by money, but instead of pieces of paper being money, the object exchanged becomes that.
Also there would still be crime as there is still property to be stolen and alot of things in this world that are stolen are anything but money, like jewelry being one of them.
Also my opnnion is, if money didnt exist in some form, we would have no effective way to exchange our labor, and goods for other labor and goods.
E.G.
I have several cows, and I want shoes that only another individual produces, do I cut the cow in half and reduce its value (maybe its a meat cow, maybe its a milk cow heck doesnt even matter) now that I have killed it, it will began to rot and I start using out on how to sustain myself.
Also another thing is the shoe maker might not even want cow at that point or to use it for the purpose of meat? So I have to search around all over the place for someone who wants half a cow, then i have to get a object from them that the shoe maker would want.
See how inefficient barter is, money is more efficient as it serves as a Store of value, a means of exchange, a unit of account (meaning things can be priced in terms of this item).
The best system to employ so there is greatest efficiency, is a Paper mine backed by gold.
Reason being, that banks and the government wont have any means to print money to pay for their expenses but would have to tax and keep themselves minimal to the function that should be performing (aka Protecting private property and personal liberties in a particular doctrine, in my case the Bill Of Rights) Any other function of Government just produces waste and messes up incentives for us all to produce things more effectively.
Link to Austrian School Of Economics
http://www.mises.org/
I think money has no limit in form. Gold is money. Pounds are money. Paper is money. Metal is money. Everything could be considered money. When I think money, I think value. And if you take that away, there pretty much wouldn't be any value to anything. Value as in: this costs $n and this costs $x.
Of course, an object would be more valuable to one person than another, but I won't get into that or I'll just end up confusing myself.
But when you say if all the world's money disappeared, do you mean suddenly or there was no money to begin with?
If money was suddenly not there. Things would be peaceful? Probably not, instead of paying for something, one would probably have to fight for it. The same thing would go if there was no concept of money to begin with.
Edit. Wow. I think I've just realized how genius the concept of money is
I doubt money will run out because if our currency AKA, Coins and bills ran out, we'd use a different type of currency since some random person is gonna make up a random type of money.
Well I think we are confusing the concept of money, with value.
The reason reason paper is money is the government has Legal Tender laws declaring its use to pay back debts public and private, however in the past in the United States money was backed by Gold & Sliver .
Lets say there was no Legal Tender laws denoting that pieces of paper are required for debts and taxes, would the paper be money? Only if people accepted it in exchange for goods and services.
Gold and Silver, clam shells etc, whatever were all accepted as people valued them, I doubt people would value a fiat money system if there wasn't a legal requirement in having it.
As a side note to Melymay
Dollars, Pounds, Francs, Marks were all names of a certain weight of gold or silver before the fiat paper revolution which allowed governments to print money without stop to pay for their debts.
Consider the United States Of America,
We have a US Treasury, we have A Federal Reserve and we have the Government Debt section.
Anytime our government has a budget deficit, they have to auction off debt to the primary dealers (Preaccepted Banking Corporations that get to buy the debt first at a discount, then sell it back at a slight discount to the public so they can make their money, so in essence underwrite US Gov Debt)
Now our Federal Reserve System, gate keeper and protector of the Financal system and the economy, provides a liquid secondary market for Gov Debt, by offering the banking community the ablitity to borrow money from the fed by pledging US Debt securities from the treasury auctions, on top of that to increase or decrease the amount of money in the Economy, they do what is called Open Market Operations to buy US Gov securities when the economy is going though a recession. The question is, how does the Federal Reserve buy US Gov securities? IT simply writes its self a check, and the person who sells the bond, cashes it in, and boom the bank has the allotted funds which they call forth if they need physical cash brought to them. So to buy a financial asset all the Fed does in essence is print Federal Reserve notes aka Dollars. The reverse of course is to sell Government debt securties therefore pulling money out of circulation.
That being said anytime you create more money you sow the seeds for inflation which means purchasing power per dollar or any currency for that matter is dilluted. Causing people on fixed incomes (like most wage earners and social security and gov benefits people) to be effected by having less with the same amount of money.
Might want to read Murray Riobard's Mystery Of Banking or History of Money.
It goes though the failed adepts of getting a fiat money system to work without hammering the citizens.
Crack becomes new world currency.
And I suddenly become a millionaire.
well..........then i don't owe anyone already~ i'm free WOOOHOOOO!~
If all the world's money diasppeared right this second... There'd be anrachy. People wanting payment in other things - food, items, houses/property, blood.
Money is just another form of barter. If people decided bottle caps were an accepted form of currency, some people would hoard that and we would be in the same position as before.
if money wouldnt exist, i assure u, that there wouldnt be war in the wolrd, wouldnt be poor pple, and wouldnt exist all this problems we have becuz of the money... i kinda hate it, but is necessary becuz all things are moved by it.
so suck it, and lets hope it dissapears.
I don't completely agree with you. All wars aren't about money. Even without the concept of money, I'm pretty sure there would still be boundaries. Some countries would find more success that others. There would still be greedy people, there's more reasons than money that causes war.
I agree, just about anything and eveything you do will cost you something
in one way shape or form.
merged: 04-15-2008 ~ 08:21am
Oil would be a start.
Money has little to do with. Most wars are religious or ethnic problems.
i think we live in happy world, all problems come with money, the greed make possible worst things like wars only for possese more money! much people live in the misery and poor because the corrupt people steal money from their nations.... i think without money we clean this world of the greedy and corrupt people.
note: every person is greedy. one more than the other.
money will just be created again because its one of the most handy things there is. or do you want to go to the bank and store 500cows on your bankaccount
.
another note: wars are not created by money. they are created by conflicts between 2 or more ppl or by the selfisness of some human beings.
if there is no money in the wolrd .Maybe we must trade something for something
Barter Trade.
Money has nothing to do with it. Greed is caused by greedy people, not money. If there was no money wars would be fought over chickens or oil (which i can see a war over oil happening if things don't shape up in real life).
all the money disappeared will make the world unite under 1 communism rule where everyone is on the same level.
no economy. foodstuff and other daily needs will be distributed fairly.
corruption will be less frequent, or will be none at all
Are you people aware we're on a "phantom currency"? Everything's just numbers. If somebody made a typo in your account and made it zero, you would have nothing to back that claim up. Since nearly all of the earth's economies are based on phantom numbers, there would be a huge dropout if somebody made everything a "0"....there would be neverending chaos, literally.
Taking statistics aside...
If there were no money, it would be a little difficult to trade fairly. We would have to resort back to bartering and finding alternative means for currency, such as shells or something else. So yeah, there would still be greed.
all think in the world will be free.It make me really happy by just thinking of it that everything in the world is free