Christanity and Islam: Are they that different?
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Which religon do you prefer?
Christanity and Islam: Are they that different?
Which religon do you prefer?
- Buddhisim
- 22 votes
- Hinduisim
- 0 votes
- Judaisim
- 1 votes
- Islam
- 40 votes
- Other Religon(state if wanted)
- 10 votes
- Christianity
- 28 votes
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not really, they are different because each have different characteristics if you study it closely.
merged: 01-04-2008 ~ 10:49pm
and the religions think their God is the only true one, so it's kind of pointless to prove to the other people that their god is not true.
merged: 01-04-2008 ~ 10:52pm
Mnemeth, what is your religion anyway?
Assuming you are being truthful about originally wanting to convey this point, then your original statement was very badly phrased. For Mnemeth to have misunderstood is not only perfectly understandable, but was to be expected.
Shameless self-praise and the inability to accept one's mistakes are not reflective of good character.
Mnemeth was using a figure of speech. An expression. A metaphor. YOU lighten up.
As I see it, the 3 Abrahamic religions of Christianity, Islam, and Judaism are almost identical in terms of core beliefs. The cornerstone of all 3 is that there is an omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent god who created the universe. This god created mankind in his image, and (in theory) loves all humans unconditionally. This god allows those who worship and love him in return to enter a paradise upon death, whereas others are cast into eternal (or at least long-term) suffering. And all this knowledge is conveyed via prophets and holy men who communicate with said god, or one of his angels.
For Christianity God sent His son, Jesus, but Islam says that Jesus was a prophet, that's too different.
They appear the same, but there are some radical differences in def. of the things that are the same...
Sorry need to clear a few things up
I think you each missed each others point or something here or maybe im reading this wrongly but.. Kingray's point was the bible and qu'ran have different gods (who he named authors for simplicity im guessing) Mnemeth refutes the term writer and tells us the all known information that the holy books were dictated by god and written by prophets. The key here being Mnemeth says 'god' not 'gods'. Implying the same god dictated both books. He makes a seperate point of this below.
He is referring to masterful's post. U know, the guy who got suckered in to being a muslim^^.
Now this should have been said from the start, i didnt know that was a fact^^
i cant understand the point being made by Mnemeth here, isnt this discussion about beliefs/religions?
Btw Cloud, saying things like "there is definitely a God, no doubt about it" and "Christianity isn't a religion" won't make people take you very seriously in a discussion.
As a final note on the 'single god dictating 3 religions' bit, im not sure whats correct, as both ideas can be argued.
One god(or source) and people interpreting him differently thus resulting in multiple religions.
Or several people believing in different gods and naming him the 'the one' - also would result in multiple religions.
Of course in my opinion god is merely a tool thought up by people to help them cope with life.
not much to say here but this:If a man accomplishes something or has put up a comment that points out his strongpoints,then it is not shameless self praise.
stay on topic plz or PM him or something
I dont you understand this, but no matter how much we stay on topic,we are bound to move on to other parts of the argument...you cant expect us to stay within a small realm of questions and accusations.Debates move on to whatever they need to,to get the point across.
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is not another part of te arguement. or do i have to explain it in more detail for you?
sheesh and now im ignoring my own advice.^^
its still part of the argument.
yeah you hypocrite lol.
Now this should have been said from the start, i didnt know that was a fact^^
Well it really isn't. Though the Christians and Muslims built upon the Jewish traditions there are some uncompromising differences in their beliefs that don't allow it to be the "same" God.
The biggest and most obvious difference is in relation to the need for atonement within the three.
Judaism- perpetual atonement
Christianity- vicarious atonement
Islam- no atonement (or in some interpretations one can atone for their own sins with various acts)
This is one example. Though on the surface they appear to be incredibly similar due to the region in which they each were derived, philosophically they are vastly different.
there no much diference,they believe in the same God,and the story of creation is the same, the only diference is the system to follow the religion (Islam,a guy can marry 7 women, and Christian religions (some don't have wedding ceremony), is one woman (which for me has more respect), then if there adultery in islam from woman,stones on her, if it is the man no stones on him,now christianity,you are responsible( of today , not midieval age) of your own actions.
If you don't know the subject don't make sitations about it
in fact the maximum number of woman a man can marry is 4 not 7 and on condition he can be just between them and can support them ,and with their agriment.
and the lapidation punishment it's not all muslims do that plus it's not implcated in quran the only source of this punishment is some weakly doubtful saying atributed to the prophet
"if it is a man no stoning" weard I live in a islamic coutry and i've never ever heard about somthing like this, yet nobody have ever been stonned in my coutry because of adultry in 1 century.
even thought hounour crimes still happen in rural areas but they are punnished by law.
I happened to see in this thread someone talk about god ordering muslims to kill non-muslims
that's complet non-sense
it's because people tend to pick one word out of contest , the word whas used in contest one the war that pagans declared on muslims yet in the followup god remember muslims to cease fighting immediatly, if the agressor want peace.
so people search and learn before you say wrong sitations on serious subjects .
I think that they do share similar ethics, but there are differences in some aspects I suppose. I'm Muslim myself, but I'm not strict enough in my religion to give much insight on the similarities or differences here.
1 peter 3:14But even if you should suffer for what is right, you are blessed. "Do not fear what they fear[a]; do not be frightened."
15But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect,
16keeping a clear conscience, so that those who speak maliciously against your good behavior in Christ may be ashamed of their slander.
17It is better, if it is God's will, to suffer for doing good than for doing evil.
1peter 4:1 Therefore, since Christ suffered in his body, arm yourselves also with the same attitude, because he who has suffered in his body is done with sin.
2As a result, he does not live the rest of his earthly life for evil human desires, but rather for the will of God.
7The end of all things is near. Therefore be clear minded and self-controlled so that you can pray.
8Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins.
9Offer hospitality to one another without grumbling.
merged: 04-26-2008 ~ 06:43pm
as what God says, a man can only marry a woman, so does the opposite
You sound brain washed well let me tell you something that you are not ready to hear you are a God we are all Gods. Gods that have been sold out how would that make you feel. You aways ask for proof well here is a proof we have the power to create just think about that.
We humans need to wake up and see the BIG PICTURE instead of worshiping someone or something but worship our self.
the power to create belongs to God, bcoz God makes us based from His figure. God creates evrything, then we use it
nope they defenitely different.I prefer Islam because I`m muslim though
actually, Islam is the TRUE religion. But Yahudian change the rule of Islam to their own rules.
that's it.
There are many religions who assert that they are the true religion. Howcan you prove that you belong to the true religion?
Alright here is one final question who created God?
I predict you failed answering that question why did the bible failed to mention it, (how can it be missed out?) However, you are right creation did started by something, but not according to what you have read. it was all a team effect by different species like a big bang of creation that is expanding today so you cant keep up. That big bang is God itself split into tiny segments. We as a species are part of that segment, so we are God. God is a form of energy that favors both Good and Evil the two elements need each other to survive the only thing is you choose a path. This form of energy never interferes like it has been based on religion. Someone knew of this knowledge and changed it to their own needs making us humans think it is right to worship when it is damn wrong. There is no such thing as a Lord or God that statement is only based on control of someones own hidden agenda. In the olden time when you win a war you write the law and it was man that wrote the book.
That question puzzles me as well. As much as I'd like to be faithful to my own religion, I still wonder which religion was the original.
I don't believe in an all powerful being. I believe that all religions are false and should be abolished. And just in case there is a heaven and hell i would rather go to hell than spend an eternity worshiping some "god" that seems to have only created us for his amusement. I have seen no reason that there is a god that loves us. To think that we created only to serve him and worship him/her ad nauseum makes me sick and any such god must be a truly egotistical jerk.
In case i have offended anyone here.
1. I stated this was my belief. So deal with it.
2. Your bible states that you have to love me (love thy neighbor etc...)
3. It also states to turn the other cheek.
4. If you respond to this post, you have been trolled and i will laugh.
5. And dinosaurs existed.
Islam was created by Mohammad that was inspired by his wife-that was a Christian.
'not according to what u have read' bible is the message from God, He showed Himself by His witnesses telling stories n then His prophets-that were guided by God- wrote it in letters. and then those people collected the letters n made it 1 book called bible. u can noticed how the writers r not only one-their speaking styles r different
lol, u're so sure bout urself, but u dont really know it's right or not. it's just ur opinion. those scientist surely make experiments so that they can make a right conclusion. althought people have mistakes-like Evolution theory from Darwin, before his death he told that his theory is a mistake. but we-Christians- also have proofs that we cant doubt about 'God is true/not true'. u'd find if God is exist, if u're close to Him. if u believe in exact sciences, why there r some people in this world, that can heal people without any medicines? that's the power of God. He give permission to some people so that we may know bout His power. n do u know about some people that were possessed by demon? that's how God warns us so we can know if demon's exist-n we've to be careful bout it. see, there r something which cant be explained by science, bcoz science is from God n God is more than science. science also from something which we were doubt about, rite? at that time we couldnt talk w/ people far away from us, but now there r TV/ camera/ telephone-which erased our doubts. there's also cloning, that's like humans can create humans. it's also the power of God, bcoz God makes us based from His figure. if u cant believe Him now, u can believe Him later.