If things get bad enough we could all just not see the next installment.
Ultimate payback to Fukuda for not letting Cagalli and Athrun be together eh?
Dunno if I'll watch it even...
Also I seriously do not believe (actually nobody should believe) that Fukuda
actually meant that AthrunXCagalli relationship is comrades. He probably just
said that to cover up his wife's mistakes on Asucaga and end this, but the way
he presented it, even in Destiny, is not a comrade-to-comrade relationship. Do
you see friends hugging each other a lot (well you might do but not in a
friendship sense)? Do you see friends kissing each other? Do you see friends or
comrades giving a ring to each other? No! Of course not. Even someone who has
not watched Seed, but just watched Destiny would know that, although it has
deteriorated a lot, this is not a comrade-to-comrade relationship.
I blame Fukuda and (mostly) his wife for not giving what the majority of the
fans actually want. But it is still up to them, as i have said before...
Are you all saying that Fukuda chose to separate them ?! O.o
Then why did they make this couple, I love asucaga and they're the reason I
watch the series (... almost I also watch for the story ^^) I won't bare if he
splits them it will just be injustice to his fans, because I heard that Kira was
supposed to die in SEED but he didn't because of the fans, and he also brought
Mwu back to life for fans again so why not keep asucaga as a couple ? And why
did he show in the final plus episode that Athrun is still at ORB ... I thought
he'd listen to us and to the petition ... I'm so disappointed X(
Quote by RaidowAre you all saying that
Fukuda chose to separate them ?! O.o
Then why did they make this couple, I love asucaga and they're the reason I
watch the series (... almost I also watch for the story ^^) I won't bare if he
splits them it will just be injustice to his fans, because I heard that Kira was
supposed to die in SEED but he didn't because of the fans, and he also brought
Mwu back to life for fans again so why not keep asucaga as a couple ? And why
did he show in the final plus episode that Athrun is still at ORB ... I thought
he'd listen to us and to the petition ... I'm so disappointed
X(
I don't think Fukuda actually chose to separate them. I blame mostly his wife.
There is still hope though, cus Fukuda probably brought Mwu back because of the
fans, and it might be like this with AsuCaga.
Quote by RaidowAre you all saying that
Fukuda chose to separate them ?! O.o
Then why did they make this couple, I love asucaga and they're the reason I
watch the series (... almost I also watch for the story ^^) I won't bare if he
splits them it will just be injustice to his fans, because I heard that Kira was
supposed to die in SEED but he didn't because of the fans, and he also brought
Mwu back to life for fans again so why not keep asucaga as a couple ? And why
did he show in the final plus episode that Athrun is still at ORB ... I thought
he'd listen to us and to the petition ... I'm so disappointed
X(
I don't think Fukuda actually chose to separate them. I blame mostly his wife.
There is still hope though, cus Fukuda probably brought Mwu back because of the
fans, and it might be like this with AsuCaga.
Yeah I agree with you, I think it's all Morrosawa's fault. But then again, it's
also Fukuda's fault for allowing her to butcher the series in the first
place.
I think that Fukuda needs to stop being such a 'chicken sh*t' and stand up to
his wife. He needs to smack her in the face and tell her "that's enough of
your sh*t you f*$kin b*tch!"
(Please excuse my language, but it had to be said)
That's a bit too much I guess. Fukuda can never do that. The least thing he can do is to prevent
her to take control over the whole plot
line. I really hope he does that because it seems that he's very much under
influence of his wife. Jeez... You know...she's beginning to remind of Flay
(aka. Fray) LOLS*
merged: 03-04-2008 ~ 01:17pm
...of course...Fukuda himself has a long way reaching Kira
After Turn A Gundam and After war Gundam X 's failure in the toy kit sales
department in which both were directed byt Mr Fukuda. He made it a point to
deliver in GSD, I think (I hope I'm wrong) that what ever he was thinking when
he made and destroyed pair ups in GS/GSD was part of his plans to make sales
like a scandalous tabloid that sends angry fans releasing their steam on the
net. Another very bad move for sales, let's face it, he and his wife are atists
and not sales persons. If he's planning on a third installment, Mr and Mrs
Fukuda should re think their strategy before they become the most hated duo on
the entire Anime/Manga scene, just because he delivered spectacular and
sometimes outrageous battle camera angles for the Mobile suit battles that many
guys like doesn't mean he can screw around normal human feelings and thrusting
them into our minds wether we like it or not there are a lot of Girls who adore
the male characters as well here I think this were Mrs Fukuda screwed up, and
just because we are boys doesn't mean were not moved with story either, well I
guess they are happy cause it worked like a charm they were given an award for
GS/GSD where? who? somewhere someone, who cares? seesh.
Why go through the trouble pairing Athrun and Cagali just to break them up? Why
does a nut job like Shinn get two female leads with that attitude?
Experimentation? Hype? Publicity? My God personal Experience perhaps? Gundam
Wing never had that many love emotion stuff that he pulled on GSD but at least
it made kit sales. Never knew Fukuda is married to Chiaki Morosawa writer of
GS/GSD. To me they are talented and at the same time Malicious people toying
around Fan feelings just to make a series popular, like some cheesy soap opera
on TV....Worst part of it all? We fell for them. . I just hope they understand
English well enough for us to voice our opinions...
Oh when it comes to the Toy kits? I remembered a young couple bad mouthing the
Impulse and Destiny Gundam Kit who hated Shinn as much as I do and said Shinn
should have been an antagonist rather than the main character to his wife, the
dad I think was a big shot at the store with the owner present cause he threw
the Desitiny Kit unit away and picked up a Version Ka Wing Gundam cause he hated
the GSD ending. Way to go Fukuda another unsatisfied customer...
one thing that I like about seed and destiny is that it's very close to the
reality(I'm not talking about the gundams).
and in the relationships is the same
nothing is perfect absolutely nothing
you can't expect someone to be as you wish and do all the things right.
do you do them? do you do everything that someone tells you to do the right
way?don't you make mistakes?
the same thing is olso in this anime
you can't just like a person because he makes what you want and when you see
that it's not perfect and makes mistakes you hate him and go to another(am
talking about the fans -when they like a anime character- or even in
life).
I agree that Cagalli made mistakes but think about it. Your country needs you.
There are people there that what to have a peaceful life and you can't just let
them and go.
Kira once said to her when ORB atack that it was her fault. How do you think she
felt then ..................that's why when she had the chance she went to ORB
to do things the right way this time
As for the part with Athrun and her not having the ring in the final episodes
it's not because she chooses ORB before Athrun .................of course she
could have left the country with him and they would have lived happily ever
after................but ..................I personally would hate her for that
because that isn't a mistake only someone coldhearted could do that .....leave
the people in the hand of who knows what
Some said that the best thing was for her to stay in ORB and olso to keep his
ring
I olso agree with this .It would have stoped all this fighting and we would know
for sure that they are together
But
If you think a little more about this you will know why she had done it .It's
not for ORB it's for Athrun
Why? It is simple, because when she saw him so gravely injured and fighting for
ORB ,ZAFT with all his powers even through he barely could stay on this feet it
is obvious that she would not what so see thim in that stage again
If he stais in ORB something like that could happen again so this is the
reason
I mean when you have someone special in your life you want them to be happy and
save. Even happier then you .I think there is no one on Earth that dose not care
for the people they love
The one thing that she had not thought about it is Athruns feelings..hey girl
think olso about the others feelings(hope I wrote it corect :p)
We saw that Athrun wants to be with her 'we have the same dream' so she must
work a bit but as I said before everybody makes mistakes .This is what makes us
human(and if you think I am exagerating I have said at the beginning that I see
this anime as part of the reality ..and we can learn many things from GS and
GSD-I know I did- )
Now of course it would be more easy for Athrun to be with Meyrin
With Cagalli he also has to work and dose not have much free time to be
together
Let us put the things olso this way
Let us not think about Cagalli at all she will sufer,she will work for the
country/s ,be alone and so..but it is not our bussines
Athrun will leave with Meyrin both will have all the time in the world ,they
will leave peacefuly
But
Will there be love ?
Meyrin loves Athrun but can you be happy if the feeling is not
returned?
You will say that Athrun will learn to love her or is already in love with
her
I am telling you that he is not in love with her because we clearly saw his
expression in the Final Plus when he hug Cagalli ( if someone dose not agree
with me on this he can say what he wants but he can not denied to himself that
,that hug it is from a lover and not a friend and has very big emotions in
it)
And will he learn to love her
hmm
I will tell you why I love this couple I why I support it
It is very simple nothing complicated. Because they are so simple .Not many
words like in others but full of emotions.They have not said once 'I love you'
but they fell it .It is something that most do not understand but when they do
you simly can not get out of it.It is like a trap but a very plesent one.
The feeling that I have watching those two is the feeling to have the courage to
go further
The courage never to give up even if the all world it is agains you.If you know
that what you do it is the right thing then believe with all your heart in it
.
They have done so many things but they did not stop believing in each other not
for a second
When Athrun saw that Cagalli took of the ring and Kira with Lacus went to him he
was very relaxed because he believes in her .
So I do not want this couple to be separated because above all the other things
it is olso a proof that we must continue to fight for our fellings,for the
people we love ,for our decisions ,for what we love the most
That is why I do not think Athrun will ever forget Cagalli and Cagalli will
never forget Athrun because between them there is a band that noone can
break.
This is what I feel and I am happy that I feel this way :p
Sorry if I wrote to much and for my bad english
What jun-tensei said was a little hard to read but was really touching. I agree
with much of what she or he said.
You can't just ditch your responsibilities for someone you love. Not only does
that make you irresponsible and immature, your people will hate you and you and
your lover will never be happy, since the guilt of that is on your shoulders.
This is why I don't support eloping =D.
Athrun should get together with Meyrin. MORE DRAMA! DD
Some of you may have forgotten but iin the ending credits of Gundam SEED
Destiny: Special Edition IV, Athrun was wearing an ORB admiral uniform whereas
Kira was wearing a ZAFT white commander uniform. Meyrin stayed in PLANT. So you
can infer from there.
Yeah I kinda agree with you jun-tenshi
Well if Athrun gets back to Cagalli in the end I won't mind him being a while
with Meyrin, just like I didn't mind Kira being with Flay ... (ok I minded a lot
cause she only died in the end but that's an other story) ... But I really don't
want to see Athrun with Meyrin in the end XP
And Athrun stayed in ORB is the biggest proof you can get about Asucaga love ^^
Jun-tenshi is right.
If Athrun goes with meyrin, i wont mind, if the circumstances are right, but
now, it is just really stupid if the scripwriters say that Athrun is with
Meyrin.
Note that i said i wont mind, not that i like them going.
I still prefer, a lot, asucaga
And also 2008, the company released cards containing Asucaga pictures
+KiraLacus, so the relationship will continue well.!
i have been supporting asucaga since the first time i saw them together...i will
not agree to any other girl paired to athrun...especially to meer and that
meyrin...the both of them can never replace cagalli in athrun's heart ..
everytime i see cagalli cry my heart is crushed...i dont want cagalli to suffer
...what are you thinking fukuda?...dont let our hopes down....cagalli and athrun
should be together not far from apart....they should live happily...i will be an
ASUCAGA fan ,,,forever...plz fukuda dont let us down...let cagalli and athrun be
together
LordPreeJ where did you learn that ? because I also have Gundam seed destiny
cards (I got them in the japan expo in France ^^ ) and I really don't see any
Athrun Meyrin anywhere bur only Asucaga ...
Quote by RaidowLordPreeJ where did you
learn that ? because I also have Gundam seed destiny cards (I got them in the
japan expo in France ^^ ) and I really don't see any Athrun Meyrin anywhere bur
only Asucaga ...
I may not have goon to Anime Convention, but i have read forums here, and the
new cards are presented (they are great!). Click on the img thing and you will
find there are KiraXLacus and Asucaga. It is in Seed Forums. Just go into the
website. Its in the bottom entry of the forum and also...
Read the rest of the thread. It tells you a lot. http://www.seed-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=24942&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=150
Doesn't the end of GSD special ed (IV) show Athrun in an ORB admiral uniform and
Kira in a Zaft commander uniform? The rest were in Zaft colors, red for the
pilots and green for the crew. I would think if Athrun stayed in Orb then he
would be with Cagalli.
I don't think so. Meyrin in the end GSDIV is on Athrun's right side meaning
their still together. As uniforms in Gundam it doesn't mean anything. Just in
case Boredandsleepy mentions anything about me don't beileve it. Am nice
Christian guy and big Anime fan. Asumey and KiraXlacus are in IMO is the Best
parings IN GUNDAM HISTORY!
Agree with you Ethiwen..Athrun and Cagalli should be together!
If things get bad enough we could all just not see the next installment. Ultimate payback to Fukuda for not letting Cagalli and Athrun be together eh? Dunno if I'll watch it even...
Also I seriously do not believe (actually nobody should believe) that Fukuda actually meant that AthrunXCagalli relationship is comrades. He probably just said that to cover up his wife's mistakes on Asucaga and end this, but the way he presented it, even in Destiny, is not a comrade-to-comrade relationship. Do you see friends hugging each other a lot (well you might do but not in a friendship sense)? Do you see friends kissing each other? Do you see friends or comrades giving a ring to each other? No! Of course not. Even someone who has not watched Seed, but just watched Destiny would know that, although it has deteriorated a lot, this is not a comrade-to-comrade relationship.
I blame Fukuda and (mostly) his wife for not giving what the majority of the fans actually want. But it is still up to them, as i have said before...
Are you all saying that Fukuda chose to separate them ?! O.o
Then why did they make this couple, I love asucaga and they're the reason I watch the series (... almost I also watch for the story ^^) I won't bare if he splits them it will just be injustice to his fans, because I heard that Kira was supposed to die in SEED but he didn't because of the fans, and he also brought Mwu back to life for fans again so why not keep asucaga as a couple ? And why did he show in the final plus episode that Athrun is still at ORB ... I thought he'd listen to us and to the petition ... I'm so disappointed X(
merged: 02-25-2008 ~ 03:50pm
I don't think Fukuda actually chose to separate them. I blame mostly his wife. There is still hope though, cus Fukuda probably brought Mwu back because of the fans, and it might be like this with AsuCaga.
I hope so ... But why doesn't his wife like Asucaga she "created "them didn't she ?
Yeah I agree with you, I think it's all Morrosawa's fault. But then again, it's also Fukuda's fault for allowing her to butcher the series in the first place.
I think that Fukuda needs to stop being such a 'chicken sh*t' and stand up to his wife. He needs to smack her in the face and tell her "that's enough of your sh*t you f*$kin b*tch!"
(Please excuse my language, but it had to be said)
That's a bit too much
I guess. Fukuda can never do that. The least thing he can do is to prevent
her to take control over the whole plot
line. I really hope he does that because it seems that he's very much under
influence of his wife. Jeez... You know...she's beginning to remind of Flay
(aka. Fray) LOLS* 
merged: 03-04-2008 ~ 01:17pm
...of course...Fukuda himself has a long way reaching Kira
I just hope that they'll get married A.S.A.P.!
After Turn A Gundam and After war Gundam X 's failure in the toy kit sales department in which both were directed byt Mr Fukuda. He made it a point to deliver in GSD, I think (I hope I'm wrong) that what ever he was thinking when he made and destroyed pair ups in GS/GSD was part of his plans to make sales like a scandalous tabloid that sends angry fans releasing their steam on the net. Another very bad move for sales, let's face it, he and his wife are atists and not sales persons. If he's planning on a third installment, Mr and Mrs Fukuda should re think their strategy before they become the most hated duo on the entire Anime/Manga scene, just because he delivered spectacular and sometimes outrageous battle camera angles for the Mobile suit battles that many guys like doesn't mean he can screw around normal human feelings and thrusting them into our minds wether we like it or not there are a lot of Girls who adore the male characters as well here I think this were Mrs Fukuda screwed up, and just because we are boys doesn't mean were not moved with story either, well I guess they are happy cause it worked like a charm they were given an award for GS/GSD where? who? somewhere someone, who cares? seesh.
Why go through the trouble pairing Athrun and Cagali just to break them up? Why does a nut job like Shinn get two female leads with that attitude? Experimentation? Hype? Publicity? My God personal Experience perhaps? Gundam Wing never had that many love emotion stuff that he pulled on GSD but at least it made kit sales. Never knew Fukuda is married to Chiaki Morosawa writer of GS/GSD. To me they are talented and at the same time Malicious people toying around Fan feelings just to make a series popular, like some cheesy soap opera on TV....Worst part of it all? We fell for them. . I just hope they understand English well enough for us to voice our opinions...
Oh when it comes to the Toy kits? I remembered a young couple bad mouthing the Impulse and Destiny Gundam Kit who hated Shinn as much as I do and said Shinn should have been an antagonist rather than the main character to his wife, the dad I think was a big shot at the store with the owner present cause he threw the Desitiny Kit unit away and picked up a Version Ka Wing Gundam cause he hated the GSD ending. Way to go Fukuda another unsatisfied customer...
one thing that I like about seed and destiny is that it's very close to the reality(I'm not talking about the gundams).
and in the relationships is the same
nothing is perfect absolutely nothing
you can't expect someone to be as you wish and do all the things right.
do you do them? do you do everything that someone tells you to do the right way?don't you make mistakes?
the same thing is olso in this anime
you can't just like a person because he makes what you want and when you see that it's not perfect and makes mistakes you hate him and go to another(am talking about the fans -when they like a anime character- or even in life).
I agree that Cagalli made mistakes but think about it. Your country needs you. There are people there that what to have a peaceful life and you can't just let them and go.
Kira once said to her when ORB atack that it was her fault. How do you think she felt then ..................that's why when she had the chance she went to ORB to do things the right way this time
As for the part with Athrun and her not having the ring in the final episodes it's not because she chooses ORB before Athrun .................of course she could have left the country with him and they would have lived happily ever after................but ..................I personally would hate her for that because that isn't a mistake only someone coldhearted could do that .....leave the people in the hand of who knows what
Some said that the best thing was for her to stay in ORB and olso to keep his ring
I olso agree with this .It would have stoped all this fighting and we would know for sure that they are together
But
If you think a little more about this you will know why she had done it .It's not for ORB it's for Athrun
Why? It is simple, because when she saw him so gravely injured and fighting for ORB ,ZAFT with all his powers even through he barely could stay on this feet it is obvious that she would not what so see thim in that stage again
If he stais in ORB something like that could happen again so this is the reason
I mean when you have someone special in your life you want them to be happy and save. Even happier then you .I think there is no one on Earth that dose not care for the people they love
The one thing that she had not thought about it is Athruns feelings..hey girl think olso about the others feelings(hope I wrote it corect :p)
We saw that Athrun wants to be with her 'we have the same dream' so she must work a bit but as I said before everybody makes mistakes .This is what makes us human(and if you think I am exagerating I have said at the beginning that I see this anime as part of the reality ..and we can learn many things from GS and GSD-I know I did- )
Now of course it would be more easy for Athrun to be with Meyrin
With Cagalli he also has to work and dose not have much free time to be together
Let us put the things olso this way
Let us not think about Cagalli at all she will sufer,she will work for the country/s ,be alone and so..but it is not our bussines
Athrun will leave with Meyrin both will have all the time in the world ,they will leave peacefuly
But
Will there be love ?
Meyrin loves Athrun but can you be happy if the feeling is not returned?
You will say that Athrun will learn to love her or is already in love with her
I am telling you that he is not in love with her because we clearly saw his expression in the Final Plus when he hug Cagalli ( if someone dose not agree with me on this he can say what he wants but he can not denied to himself that ,that hug it is from a lover and not a friend and has very big emotions in it)
And will he learn to love her
hmm
I will tell you why I love this couple I why I support it
It is very simple nothing complicated. Because they are so simple .Not many words like in others but full of emotions.They have not said once 'I love you' but they fell it .It is something that most do not understand but when they do you simly can not get out of it.It is like a trap but a very plesent one.
The feeling that I have watching those two is the feeling to have the courage to go further
The courage never to give up even if the all world it is agains you.If you know that what you do it is the right thing then believe with all your heart in it .
They have done so many things but they did not stop believing in each other not for a second
When Athrun saw that Cagalli took of the ring and Kira with Lacus went to him he was very relaxed because he believes in her .
So I do not want this couple to be separated because above all the other things it is olso a proof that we must continue to fight for our fellings,for the people we love ,for our decisions ,for what we love the most
That is why I do not think Athrun will ever forget Cagalli and Cagalli will never forget Athrun because between them there is a band that noone can break.
This is what I feel and I am happy that I feel this way :p
Sorry if I wrote to much and for my bad english
What jun-tensei said was a little hard to read but was really touching. I agree with much of what she or he said.
DD
You can't just ditch your responsibilities for someone you love. Not only does that make you irresponsible and immature, your people will hate you and you and your lover will never be happy, since the guilt of that is on your shoulders. This is why I don't support eloping =D.
Athrun should get together with Meyrin. MORE DRAMA!
Some of you may have forgotten but iin the ending credits of Gundam SEED Destiny: Special Edition IV, Athrun was wearing an ORB admiral uniform whereas Kira was wearing a ZAFT white commander uniform. Meyrin stayed in PLANT. So you can infer from there.
Yeah I kinda agree with you jun-tenshi
Well if Athrun gets back to Cagalli in the end I won't mind him being a while with Meyrin, just like I didn't mind Kira being with Flay ... (ok I minded a lot cause she only died in the end but that's an other story) ... But I really don't want to see Athrun with Meyrin in the end XP
And Athrun stayed in ORB is the biggest proof you can get about Asucaga love ^^
Jun-tenshi is right.
If Athrun goes with meyrin, i wont mind, if the circumstances are right, but now, it is just really stupid if the scripwriters say that Athrun is with Meyrin.
Note that i said i wont mind, not that i like them going.
I still prefer, a lot, asucaga
And also 2008, the company released cards containing Asucaga pictures +KiraLacus, so the relationship will continue well.!
i have been supporting asucaga since the first time i saw them together...i will not agree to any other girl paired to athrun...especially to meer and that meyrin...the both of them can never replace cagalli in athrun's heart .. everytime i see cagalli cry my heart is crushed...i dont want cagalli to suffer ...what are you thinking fukuda?...dont let our hopes down....cagalli and athrun should be together not far from apart....they should live happily...i will be an ASUCAGA fan ,,,forever...plz fukuda dont let us down...let cagalli and athrun be together
LordPreeJ where did you learn that ? because I also have Gundam seed destiny cards (I got them in the japan expo in France ^^ ) and I really don't see any Athrun Meyrin anywhere bur only Asucaga ...
I may not have goon to Anime Convention, but i have read forums here, and the new cards are presented (they are great!). Click on the img thing and you will find there are KiraXLacus and Asucaga. It is in Seed Forums. Just go into the website. Its in the bottom entry of the forum and also...
Read the rest of the thread. It tells you a lot.
http://www.seed-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=24942&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=150
Ok thx ^^ I haven't got the same actually, but these one are great ! and I just hope they'll stay together ...
Doesn't the end of GSD special ed (IV) show Athrun in an ORB admiral uniform and Kira in a Zaft commander uniform? The rest were in Zaft colors, red for the pilots and green for the crew. I would think if Athrun stayed in Orb then he would be with Cagalli.
I don't think so. Meyrin in the end GSDIV is on Athrun's right side meaning their still together. As uniforms in Gundam it doesn't mean anything. Just in case Boredandsleepy mentions anything about me don't beileve it. Am nice Christian guy and big Anime fan. Asumey and KiraXlacus are in IMO is the Best parings IN GUNDAM HISTORY!
I completly disagree with you because LordPreeJ found latest pictures of the anime and they show ASUCAGA and KIRACUS which are the best pairings ^-^
That is true. I did find out in lots of forums, so info is correct. Pictures explain a lot more than words.