okay, first, download the super small jpg file above and view it full-screen.
Please do not use Image-editing programs to open it, such as Photoshop,
CorelDraw, etc. Just use your Internet Explorer or ACDSee or other internal
thumbnail viewer (and please do not modify the gamma option in your software..
if you do, then set it to default values before viewing)
Then, choose one row that you think is the most suitable gamma ramp for your
monitor or eyes ^^. How to decide? Simple enough, each row is made of ten
thumbnails, each are different shades of black (but in an orderly difference,
which is 10% decrement from the leftmost box). Choose one row that has the most
evenly distributed shades of black. Another way to decide is to compare the
first two boxes, if you can distinguish them clearly, then it's the right ramp,
but please choose the darkest possible row.
Why? Because the correct brightness setting will help the wallers (including
myself) to make wallpapers with the right gamma to suit your desktop well.
Different monitors and eyes have different gamma ramp/gamut, so by conducting
this little research I hope my next wallpapers are not going to be too
bright/too dark, and I hope this can be a reference for other wallers
also.
Pardon my crappy English. And I will conduct the color calibration ramp sometime
soon.
Ciao!
edit : please mention your monitor make and model, if possible ^^
and I might update the image because I found out that the 3rd and 4th row has a
very steep difference (about 12.5%) dunno
why.... (damn Corel!)
gah I'm in office now so it's not possible to update... I'll get to this soon
after I get home...
lol korgie
just testing my gamma radiation ^^
my test
is
4
always that range ^^
and never lower than it
higher maybe ^^'
and just help other waller yeah
and what i think ppl do love the middle range
(and u can calibrate it with adobe gamma tool )
anyway , thx for make this thread
(ps: what about our project and silverray event ? ^^')
I learned new things today from you, KorganoS-sempai! (hehe...^_^) I'm so happy
to be of service to you.
edited:
it's 4 for me, KorganoS-friend... on an LG Flatron L1710S (flat panel) monitor,
hehe, I had to secretly look at the monitor's back... exact model number is
LB700G - GD... not mine, the office's.... opps, here comes my boss, ja ne!
mine is 4
this thing can really help wallers wall~
coz some ppl complains its bright whereas some said its fine
so something like is pretty usefull. ^_^
Mine is 5 My monitor is by Sony, but it's a really old sucker (I stole it
from my Dad's Windows 95 computer) ^^ It's a flat monitor (not a flat panel!)
so I don't get much glare. I have no idea what the model is.
I suppose this could be helpful for wallers... Hehe, but I LIKE blinding people
with bright walls. :P
Four. If you need, my monitor is labeled Dell, but actually from Nokia. It's
their new line of flat screens. I don't have the exact model number...but its
20" wirh the new 12 ms response time.
ho ho nice test here korgy-san... mine is Philips 107x4 and umm choosing the
darkest row as posible... my row is 7... yes even in the 7th row i'm still can
see the difference between 1st and 2nd box... well maybe my monitor setting is
way too bright...
heya, lol, interesting research... anyway, 4 works best for me, maybe a lil bit
leaning on the 5 side... but 4 works best. well, have fun and good luck!
I have to say either 4 or 5 but I prefer 4 since there are a variety of shading.
My monitor is a Compaq fs7750 color monitor & model number: pe1160. Hopes
that's right~
I'm interested to know how to use the results, once they're in. It seems like
row 4 is the most common; so, how do I make walls using that knowledge? Is there
some way to adjust my monitor or Photoshop settings to reflect this?
Very interesting idea, by the way, I think this will be very handy. ^^
Quote by biriwilgI'm interested to know
how to use the results, once they're in. It seems like row 4 is the most common;
so, how do I make walls using that knowledge? Is there some way to adjust my
monitor or Photoshop settings to reflect this?
Very interesting idea, by the way, I think this will be very handy.
^^
sorry for the late reply
actually this thread serves 3 purposes :
1. Manual gamma calibration
2. gamma comparation
3. Reference gamma
(1) Manual gamma calibration
- Pick the number you want,... usually you should pick the number most voted by
other ppl... in this case, four (4)
- view the image full screen
- adjust your monitor until the leftmost box in the 4th row is a darkest
possible shade of black
- adjust your monitor until the rightmost box in the 4th row is a brightest
possible shade of white
- try to adjust your monitor to make the shades in the 4th row as evenly
distributed as possible...
- as a result, your monitor is calibrated to the same gamma with most other ppl
have... that way your walls will not be too bright/dark
(2) Gamma comparation
when you think other ppl submit a wall that is too dark/too bright you can :
- compare your gamma and that person's gamma
- give a precise advice on reducing/increasing his wall's brightness (you can
give precise advice in percents, because each of the boxes in my gamma image is
differentiated by 10% each...)
(3) Gamma reference
- you can see how dark/bright other ppl's monitors/systems are...
- you can give advice on setting the right gamma for that person...
- ppl can refer to this gamma reference to find the most suitable gamma ramp to
make the walls/images they have downloaded from here to suit their desktop
well... (who wants wallies that are too bright/too dark anyways.... and most of
the time, it's not the author's fault)
okay, first, download the super small jpg file above and view it full-screen. Please do not use Image-editing programs to open it, such as Photoshop, CorelDraw, etc. Just use your Internet Explorer or ACDSee or other internal thumbnail viewer (and please do not modify the gamma option in your software.. if you do, then set it to default values before viewing)
Then, choose one row that you think is the most suitable gamma ramp for your monitor or eyes ^^. How to decide? Simple enough, each row is made of ten thumbnails, each are different shades of black (but in an orderly difference, which is 10% decrement from the leftmost box). Choose one row that has the most evenly distributed shades of black. Another way to decide is to compare the first two boxes, if you can distinguish them clearly, then it's the right ramp, but please choose the darkest possible row.
Why? Because the correct brightness setting will help the wallers (including myself) to make wallpapers with the right gamma to suit your desktop well. Different monitors and eyes have different gamma ramp/gamut, so by conducting this little research I hope my next wallpapers are not going to be too bright/too dark, and I hope this can be a reference for other wallers also.
Pardon my crappy English. And I will conduct the color calibration ramp sometime soon.
Ciao!
edit : please mention your monitor make and model, if possible ^^
dunno
why.... (damn Corel!)
and I might update the image because I found out that the 3rd and 4th row has a very steep difference (about 12.5%)
gah I'm in office now so it's not possible to update... I'll get to this soon after I get home...
http://img11.exs.cx/img11/1636/gamma8wg.jpg <-- for you who can't open the file by clicking on the thumbnail, some browsers experience this so just in case..
lol korgie
just testing my gamma radiation ^^
my test
is
4
always that range ^^
and never lower than it
higher maybe ^^'
and just help other waller yeah
and what i think ppl do love the middle range
(and u can calibrate it with adobe gamma tool )
anyway , thx for make this thread
(ps: what about our project and silverray event ? ^^')
I learned new things today from you, KorganoS-sempai! (hehe...^_^) I'm so happy to be of service to you.
edited:
it's 4 for me, KorganoS-friend... on an LG Flatron L1710S (flat panel) monitor, hehe, I had to secretly look at the monitor's back... exact model number is LB700G - GD... not mine, the office's.... opps, here comes my boss, ja ne!
ooooo...I didn't know such test exist
anyhoo, mine is 4 ^___^
mine is 5 ^_^
so remember that....
mine is 4
this thing can really help wallers wall~
coz some ppl complains its bright whereas some said its fine
so something like is pretty usefull. ^_^
Hm... I was kinda having a fight between 4 and a bit of 5 but I noticed how many different distinguishable shades could be seen on 4
Therefore - 4 is the magic number here KorganoS - whew, what an eye-popper - lol ^^
Mine is 5
My monitor is by Sony, but it's a really old sucker (I stole it
from my Dad's Windows 95 computer) ^^ It's a flat monitor (not a flat panel!)
so I don't get much glare. I have no idea what the model is. 
I suppose this could be helpful for wallers... Hehe, but I LIKE blinding people with bright walls. :P
Four. If you need, my monitor is labeled Dell, but actually from Nokia. It's their new line of flat screens. I don't have the exact model number...but its 20" wirh the new 12 ms response time.
4 looks the best to me.
My monitor - NEC MultiSync fe991sb CRT, it's a 19" flatscreen (not flatpanel :p)
Mine is four. My monitor is 17", philips 107s. My computer is renew this year, except the monitor, it's seven years old.
And I learn one thing, gamma ramp.
Thanks.
wa........this would really help no? lol
great idea kayS!
hmmm... somwhere between 4 & 5 "not sure I did it right"
My monitor is iiyama CRT 21" flatscreen. "really wana get it upgrade to flat panel through."
Same here, on LG 19" Flatron f900b . Black looks only good if it's really black ^^.
ho ho nice test here korgy-san... mine is Philips 107x4 and umm choosing the darkest row as posible... my row is 7... yes even in the 7th row i'm still can see the difference between 1st and 2nd box... well maybe my monitor setting is way too bright...
4 is for me ^^. It have more color balance
my monitor is mitsubishi diamond scan 52. 15"
heya, lol, interesting research... anyway, 4 works best for me, maybe a lil bit leaning on the 5 side... but 4 works best. well, have fun and good luck!
Row 3 for me. And I run a HP Pavillion ze4540 laptop.
4 for me too. I havea KDS Usa flat scree monitor .
I have to say either 4 or 5 but I prefer 4 since there are a variety of shading.
My monitor is a Compaq fs7750 color monitor & model number: pe1160. Hopes that's right~
Definitely 4, and my monitor is a starlogic flat panel monitor...I don't know the exact model though.
row 3 for me ^^;
And um... what type of monitor?
I don't know...
I'm interested to know how to use the results, once they're in. It seems like row 4 is the most common; so, how do I make walls using that knowledge? Is there some way to adjust my monitor or Photoshop settings to reflect this?
Very interesting idea, by the way, I think this will be very handy. ^^
sorry for the late reply
actually this thread serves 3 purposes :
1. Manual gamma calibration
2. gamma comparation
3. Reference gamma
(1) Manual gamma calibration
- Pick the number you want,... usually you should pick the number most voted by other ppl... in this case, four (4)
- view the image full screen
- adjust your monitor until the leftmost box in the 4th row is a darkest possible shade of black
- adjust your monitor until the rightmost box in the 4th row is a brightest possible shade of white
- try to adjust your monitor to make the shades in the 4th row as evenly distributed as possible...
- as a result, your monitor is calibrated to the same gamma with most other ppl have... that way your walls will not be too bright/dark
(2) Gamma comparation
when you think other ppl submit a wall that is too dark/too bright you can :
- compare your gamma and that person's gamma
- give a precise advice on reducing/increasing his wall's brightness (you can give precise advice in percents, because each of the boxes in my gamma image is differentiated by 10% each...)
(3) Gamma reference
- you can see how dark/bright other ppl's monitors/systems are...
- you can give advice on setting the right gamma for that person...
- ppl can refer to this gamma reference to find the most suitable gamma ramp to make the walls/images they have downloaded from here to suit their desktop well... (who wants wallies that are too bright/too dark anyways.... and most of the time, it's not the author's fault)