Important Edit (27/ 12 / 2004) : Read the
"how is quality and effort judged for wallpapers?"
Very well, I think it better to announce this so that I get fewer complaints
later. I posted it in this section because
1) It is more likely to be noticed
2) It IS a complaint ...
In these weeks I had time to browse the galleries.. and in many cases, what I
though was.. what a load of crap... . So since I have a lot of time on my hands
in the next month, I'll be doing some serious cleaning.
First, some general considerations that I wish
to make.
1) I and the other mods do not enjoy deleting. We would like it so very much if
there was no need to... And you must not presume we do it all alone. sometimes
we talk about decisions, sometimes the mod that write in your guestbook is not
the one who deleted etc.
2) The rules were not changed. This is extremely important. With this I mean,
the rules were always like they are now. So if your wall / scan got deleted for
some reason, then it WAS already written in the policy.. and you should have
known. I am really sorry when deleting hurts the feeling of people, but reading
the policy well would avoid the majority of the deletions ..
3) I am using many hours of my vacation time for minitokyo. No, I'm not free. I
have many things to do. Still I love this site and so I use many hours to make
it better. IF you don't think this is making it better.. then I am sorry. But
the idea of Minitokyo is a place where you can get high quality scans and
wallpapers and when someone can get quality reviews .
Now before somebody starts complaining I want to point at the Minitokyo policy.
It states, among many other things that people never read, that all submission
must meet a minimum level of quality.
No I won't go crazy and delete everything, just those submissions that don't
meet the requirements...
So what are the requirements again? Since few read the policy, let us write them
down again... maybe explaining some points that are often misunderstood
Wallpapers:
1) Wallpapers must be your own creation. You can take stock images (for examples
characters, or clouds) and then put them in (though any photo or such must be
modified, no stock photos just pasted there) but the wallpaper must be your
work. You cannot submit wallpapers done by others nor use other people work nor
just paste a scan over another and call it a wallpaper. Also you cannot use
screencaps, not even modified ones.
2) The wallpaper must have a minimum level of quality AND of effort. Quality
means no blurry or excessively pixellated works, and a somewhat decent layout.
Effort means you must have worked on it. And trust me, it's easy to see when a
wallpaper was done with little effort. Simplicity has its beauty.. but a
character pasted over a white canvas, or over a gradient colored canvas, or over
another character face enlarged and blurred is not enough. Nor a wallpaper when
you just smartly added some pre-made effects from the photoshop
library.
Scans
1) Must be of a minimum quality APART from the number of pixels. If it's blurry,
or with excessive artifacts, do not submit it
2) Scans are on Minitokyo mainly for providing aspiring artists with useful
material. So before posting a scan, ask yourself: Can this scan be used in a
good quality wallpaper? If the answer is no.. then don't submit it.
3) Since few read the policy, it must also be anime, manga or game related, it
cannot be a screenshot, it cannot be enlarged to fit the minimum dimensions, nor
be excessively blurred, unsharp, noisy, over- or undersaturated, over- or
underlit. And it MUST have a clearly visible subject, since its purpose is to be
used for a wallpaper..
4) It must not be mature in content (this goes for wallpapers too..). Mature
does NOT just include nudity (again, as stated in the policy...) Minitokyo wants
to be a clean place, so that we can avoid worrying about the age of the members.
If you want extremely ecchi or hentai images, there are plenty of other sites
around..
5) About black and white: this is admittedly rather controversial.
Generally black and white scans are not accepted unless they are scans form an
artist bok or something. As always, the general rule stays valid. Before
submiting think if the scan can be used for a wallpaper or not
Doujinshi and Abstract art:
the time of submitting whatever you want has ended. After reading the policy
and consulting with Sheqel himself, here are the guidelines
1) It must be totally your work, once again. NO ripping.
2) it must be of a minimum quality. This refers, once again, BOTH to doujinshi
and abstarct art. Of course we'll be more lenient that in the scans and walls
sections, but still a MINIMUM quality and effort must be visible.
Seeyuu/J-pop/Idols:
Same as the scan and wallpapers above. So it must be your work (no submitting
wallpapers of other!) and of a minimum quality.
How is quality and effort judged for wallpapers?
1) Extraction. The act of taking a character out of a scan to put in your
wallpaper. Poligonal lasso or pen tool + at least 500% zoom is your friend if
well done, while magic wand generally makes for so-so walls
2) Cleaning. If the scan is grainy or contanins other artifacts, cleaning the
image is an important point
3) Layout. A decent composition is important. A thought out wallpapers is
certainly more appealing and represent a higher level of quality/effort
4) Quality and effort in designing the background
Of course we're not expecting new members, nor old ones, to be perfect in every
one of this aspect, though please try to give your all. But a wallpaper trying
to follow those criterias is MUCH more likely to be accepted. The art &
design forum contains further help on these topics. (also if you post a wall
with: "I did this nice wall, hope you like it" , you're not gaining
credit ...)
Important note
Please note that while I have time, I cannot process the whole Minitokyo gallery
in one day. So please avoid asking "why did you delete this image of mine
and not this other image of this member?". All images (hopefully) will be
processed in due time...
If you feel like another image should be deleted (BUT keep in mind the
guidelines above), please report it, thanks.
Well, I am done, I hope this lower the amount of complaints...
good luck on your quest Keltosh!!
i hope you dont finish tired, because as you say much of the works posted doesnt
meet the requirements, adn as you live here jkjk i
think its important to have your place clean and tidy
as soon as i clean up my own place i might start to hel you with that epic quest
of cleaning MT
also i wanted to thank you for YOUR effort, its not easy to mantain MT high
standards, buit thanks to you adn the other mods this place stills run
smoothly
THANK YOU AND merry xmas.
loL~
I think some of my scans are already been deleted XP
well I couldnt care less
if it doesnt fit MT's policy, better off gone. ^_^
now, go and your adventure in da gallery section~ and yes~ its an adventure~
Wow, he used an mature word which is not allowed and lots of spaces to meet the
64 character requirement. Zombie Osiris, you're breaking too many rules than a
mod should do.
PS: As I mentioned once before, don't forget to clean the mod's galleries as
well.
go Keltosh!!! good that you have time for the cleaning here but
it will be a long and difficult quest ;P with all those crappy submissions...
anyway - good luck!!!
Quote by CelessaI gotz lots of coffee for
ya if you need it. ^_^
yup just say so and we will prepare all the hectolitres of coffee you will need
;P
ho that was the answer i looked for for some days.
so : black and white scans arn't allowed ?
i quote one point of the policy
Quote by support section^^
You may only submit materials that have at least 16 bit-per-pixel; this does
not include greyscale images.
i'm not that good in english so ... i'm asking here. does it mean greyscale pics
can me less or more than 16 bit per pixel
OR
all images must be at least 16 bit per pixel but greyscale image havn't to be
posted.
that sentence is a little controversial no ?
my suggestions:
if greyscale scans arn't allowed
*You may only submit materials that have at least 16 bit-per-pixel
*black and white pictures arn't allowed
if they are
*You may only submit materials that have at least 16 bit-per-pixel
* this does not include greyscale images. (reason : they can have more or less
bit per pixels
it would be easier i think
sorry again to ask this
Keltosh does too much workage while Osi sits in the veranda sipping his Pimp
juice....
Heres a poem to cheer you up:
Reports will come in...
some posters dont even care
Complaints will come next
thats what people have time to spare!
Then comes irritation of the noggin
another impatient characteristic one should check
Away we go staff, the phone is waiting!!!
Its dial away.....1-800 gallery direct!!!!!
XD im such a kidder...should have that as a poetic slogan for all Staff
Members!
rest be assured, all of moderators' gallery will be sorted out also you
people are so paranoid coughnoctumcough.
i'll make it clear right now. during the gallery wipe, if anyone decides to
post complaints that concerns their gallery item deletion on the forum or the
shoutbox, i will issue them one warning; you got a problem? come talk to a
moderator about it. stop wasting everyone's time and space by selfishly posting
childish complaints, when we're almost 100% right and no one else really cares
except yourself.
well, cheers for the clean and pure earth! urr...MT 8d
Ahhh... even coming out of lurk mode to say this. This really needs to be done,
and I thank you for it. I tried reporting what didn't fit standards out of a few
directories, and most of the reports were ignored, lost in the shuffle or not
processed.
Good luck, there's a lot of cleaning up to do around MT. >.>
Good luck Kel, we'll consider this your trial by fire. ^_^ I'll try to help out
some, but I won't be able to do much till I get home after Christmas break. ^^
Lemme know if you need anything.
EDIT: Not five minutes after I posted this, I saw another thread whinging about
a deletion. Gimme a break, people!
Important Edit (27/ 12 / 2004) : Read the "how is quality and effort judged for wallpapers?"
Very well, I think it better to announce this so that I get fewer complaints later. I posted it in this section because
1) It is more likely to be noticed
2) It IS a complaint ...
In these weeks I had time to browse the galleries.. and in many cases, what I though was.. what a load of crap... . So since I have a lot of time on my hands in the next month, I'll be doing some serious cleaning.
First, some general considerations that I wish to make.
1) I and the other mods do not enjoy deleting. We would like it so very much if there was no need to... And you must not presume we do it all alone. sometimes we talk about decisions, sometimes the mod that write in your guestbook is not the one who deleted etc.
2) The rules were not changed. This is extremely important. With this I mean, the rules were always like they are now. So if your wall / scan got deleted for some reason, then it WAS already written in the policy.. and you should have known. I am really sorry when deleting hurts the feeling of people, but reading the policy well would avoid the majority of the deletions ..
3) I am using many hours of my vacation time for minitokyo. No, I'm not free. I have many things to do. Still I love this site and so I use many hours to make it better. IF you don't think this is making it better.. then I am sorry. But the idea of Minitokyo is a place where you can get high quality scans and wallpapers and when someone can get quality reviews .
Now before somebody starts complaining I want to point at the Minitokyo policy. It states, among many other things that people never read, that all submission must meet a minimum level of quality.
No I won't go crazy and delete everything, just those submissions that don't meet the requirements...
So what are the requirements again? Since few read the policy, let us write them down again... maybe explaining some points that are often misunderstood
Wallpapers:
1) Wallpapers must be your own creation. You can take stock images (for examples characters, or clouds) and then put them in (though any photo or such must be modified, no stock photos just pasted there) but the wallpaper must be your work. You cannot submit wallpapers done by others nor use other people work nor just paste a scan over another and call it a wallpaper. Also you cannot use screencaps, not even modified ones.
2) The wallpaper must have a minimum level of quality AND of effort. Quality means no blurry or excessively pixellated works, and a somewhat decent layout. Effort means you must have worked on it. And trust me, it's easy to see when a wallpaper was done with little effort. Simplicity has its beauty.. but a character pasted over a white canvas, or over a gradient colored canvas, or over another character face enlarged and blurred is not enough. Nor a wallpaper when you just smartly added some pre-made effects from the photoshop library.
Scans
1) Must be of a minimum quality APART from the number of pixels. If it's blurry, or with excessive artifacts, do not submit it
2) Scans are on Minitokyo mainly for providing aspiring artists with useful material. So before posting a scan, ask yourself: Can this scan be used in a good quality wallpaper? If the answer is no.. then don't submit it.
3) Since few read the policy, it must also be anime, manga or game related, it cannot be a screenshot, it cannot be enlarged to fit the minimum dimensions, nor be excessively blurred, unsharp, noisy, over- or undersaturated, over- or underlit. And it MUST have a clearly visible subject, since its purpose is to be used for a wallpaper..
4) It must not be mature in content (this goes for wallpapers too..). Mature does NOT just include nudity (again, as stated in the policy...) Minitokyo wants to be a clean place, so that we can avoid worrying about the age of the members. If you want extremely ecchi or hentai images, there are plenty of other sites around..
5) About black and white: this is admittedly rather controversial. Generally black and white scans are not accepted unless they are scans form an artist bok or something. As always, the general rule stays valid. Before submiting think if the scan can be used for a wallpaper or not
Doujinshi and Abstract art:
the time of submitting whatever you want has ended. After reading the policy and consulting with Sheqel himself, here are the guidelines
1) It must be totally your work, once again. NO ripping.
2) it must be of a minimum quality. This refers, once again, BOTH to doujinshi and abstarct art. Of course we'll be more lenient that in the scans and walls sections, but still a MINIMUM quality and effort must be visible.
Seeyuu/J-pop/Idols:
Same as the scan and wallpapers above. So it must be your work (no submitting wallpapers of other!) and of a minimum quality.
How is quality and effort judged for wallpapers?
1) Extraction. The act of taking a character out of a scan to put in your wallpaper. Poligonal lasso or pen tool + at least 500% zoom is your friend if well done, while magic wand generally makes for so-so walls
2) Cleaning. If the scan is grainy or contanins other artifacts, cleaning the image is an important point
3) Layout. A decent composition is important. A thought out wallpapers is certainly more appealing and represent a higher level of quality/effort
4) Quality and effort in designing the background
Of course we're not expecting new members, nor old ones, to be perfect in every one of this aspect, though please try to give your all. But a wallpaper trying to follow those criterias is MUCH more likely to be accepted. The art & design forum contains further help on these topics. (also if you post a wall with: "I did this nice wall, hope you like it" , you're not gaining credit ...)
Important note
Please note that while I have time, I cannot process the whole Minitokyo gallery in one day. So please avoid asking "why did you delete this image of mine and not this other image of this member?". All images (hopefully) will be processed in due time...
If you feel like another image should be deleted (BUT keep in mind the guidelines above), please report it, thanks.
Well, I am done, I hope this lower the amount of complaints...
haha go rape the gallery, go go
good luck on your quest Keltosh!!
jkjk i
think its important to have your place clean and tidy
i hope you dont finish tired, because as you say much of the works posted doesnt meet the requirements, adn as you live here
as soon as i clean up my own place i might start to hel you with that epic quest of cleaning MT
also i wanted to thank you for YOUR effort, its not easy to mantain MT high standards, buit thanks to you adn the other mods this place stills run smoothly
THANK YOU AND merry xmas.
Go GO Keltosh, you have my support !!
Deleted more of my gallery - it didn't look right O_o
Well, best of luck Keltosh - you have my support - and I gotz lots of coffee for ya if you need it. ^_^
loL~
I think some of my scans are already been deleted XP
well I couldnt care less
if it doesnt fit MT's policy, better off gone. ^_^
now, go and your adventure in da gallery section~ and yes~ its an adventure~
You should include under Scans 3) that it must not be a black & white picture. There are still people who upload them.
Wow, he used an mature word which is not allowed and lots of spaces to meet the 64 character requirement. Zombie Osiris, you're breaking too many rules than a mod should do.
PS: As I mentioned once before, don't forget to clean the mod's galleries as well.
go Keltosh!!! good that you have time for the cleaning here
but
it will be a long and difficult quest ;P with all those crappy submissions...
anyway - good luck!!!
yup just say so and we will prepare all the hectolitres of coffee you will need ;P
Noctum : Don't worry, I'm not searching by member's gallery. I'm browsing by categories.. so I won't skip to evaluate any picture ...
ROFL - well said.
And don't tell me you are gonna clean the mods as well. **Erm** Down boy. X_x
>
<PS - What about Keltosh's? lol - j/k
Feel free to browse my gallery and to report any picture not up to the minimum quality
ok we will, we will - without fail we will visit your gallery :]
just j/k
ho that was the answer i looked for for some days.
so : black and white scans arn't allowed ?
i quote one point of the policy
i'm not that good in english so ... i'm asking here. does it mean greyscale pics can me less or more than 16 bit per pixel
OR
all images must be at least 16 bit per pixel but greyscale image havn't to be posted.
that sentence is a little controversial no ?
my suggestions:
if greyscale scans arn't allowed
*You may only submit materials that have at least 16 bit-per-pixel
*black and white pictures arn't allowed
if they are
*You may only submit materials that have at least 16 bit-per-pixel
* this does not include greyscale images. (reason : they can have more or less bit per pixels
it would be easier i think
sorry again to ask this
Keltosh does too much workage while Osi sits in the veranda sipping his Pimp juice....
Heres a poem to cheer you up:
Reports will come in...
some posters dont even care
Complaints will come next
thats what people have time to spare!
Then comes irritation of the noggin
another impatient characteristic one should check
Away we go staff, the phone is waiting!!!
Its dial away.....1-800 gallery direct!!!!!
XD im such a kidder...should have that as a poetic slogan for all Staff Members!
It is written and it shall be done.....
haha rofl good poem!
Anyway good luck on this Keltosh, it will be hard!!
Good luck Keltosh.............................
are the other gallery directors(or higher) going to help u to make it go faster?
rest be assured, all of moderators' gallery will be sorted out also
you
people are so paranoid coughnoctumcough.
i'll make it clear right now. during the gallery wipe, if anyone decides to post complaints that concerns their gallery item deletion on the forum or the shoutbox, i will issue them one warning; you got a problem? come talk to a moderator about it. stop wasting everyone's time and space by selfishly posting childish complaints, when we're almost 100% right and no one else really cares except yourself.
well, cheers for the clean and pure earth! urr...MT 8d
Sure, go ahead! I don't mind my wallies being wiped! My first submissions look way too simple, anyways! You have my support 100%, k?
Go Kel, go Kel, it's your birthday, go Kel. =P
Whoo~! Go--
Jinzhou stole my line.
I'll help, if you want.
Fufufu~
*prepares a reporting rampage*
Good luck !
You've sure got lots of deleting to do!
hahaha pple even wrote poems for you kelchan
you
have our support, so go save the MT day once again~
Ahhh... even coming out of lurk mode to say this. This really needs to be done, and I thank you for it. I tried reporting what didn't fit standards out of a few directories, and most of the reports were ignored, lost in the shuffle or not processed.
Good luck, there's a lot of cleaning up to do around MT. >.>
Good luck Kel, we'll consider this your trial by fire. ^_^ I'll try to help out some, but I won't be able to do much till I get home after Christmas break. ^^ Lemme know if you need anything.
EDIT: Not five minutes after I posted this, I saw another thread whinging about a deletion. Gimme a break, people!