one day my friend found a computer sitting on the side of the road. he picked it
up, and brought it home, and everything works fine! he didn't want it so he
asked if i would lke it. "heck yeah!' I said.
surprisingly, here at college I am starting 2 new classes that use Macs
exclusively (i have never used a mac) but the one I am getting is a G3 and the
ones we will be using are G4s and G5s.
what do you guys like/dislike/love/hate about Macs and what are the diffferences
between Windows computers?
I hate the one-button mice, I hate the lack of a proper task bar and I hate the
fact that most software is written for Windows so doesn't work for them (OK,
they often do Mac versions, but that's if you actually buy stuff legally ). You'll probably find the OS interface very awkward at first. x_X But I
guess you'd get used to it eventually.
I like the physical appearance of them (assuming it's a relatively new Mac)
though, they're pretty.
Can't say I've used them that much though, I've mostly used Windows and
Linux.
Perhaps it would have been better to ask this before you bought it
.
As for the mice, they can be changed for better mice and if you want to use this
computer for media, then it is a very good platform and I'm sure you'll enjoy
using it .
I am working with both Mac and PC and even as a graphic designer, I don't like
mac's interface. It's not enough customizable, you can't really do what you want
with it. And that horrible transparent background of all softwares when they're
open... it's terrible, one wrong click and you're on the Finder... *dies* You
can't maximize your windows either... there's always an empty space around it...
Mac was first created for being family-friendly so you don't have to wonder
about specific and tecnical stuffs so I guess it doesn't fit my bad habit to
lurk around every corner of my machine.
cool, applcare, i'll remember that. as for aa-chan, It is being given to me (no
money included) isn't that great? I'm on a MAC G5 right now, I love the 64 bit
chip. the controls are slightly awkward though. and yeah, one button mice suck
too.
Quote by WoofieI hate the one-button mice,
I hate the lack of a proper task bar and I hate the fact that most software is
written for Windows so doesn't work for them (OK, they often do Mac versions,
but that's if you actually buy stuff legally >_>). You'll probably
find the OS interface very awkward at first. x_X But I guess you'd get used to
it eventually.
I like the physical appearance of them (assuming it's a relatively new Mac)
though, they're pretty.
Can't say I've used them that much though, I've mostly used Windows and
Linux.
I have a Dell desktop and a Apple Powerbook laptop; while
the controls for Macintosh are slightly different, you get used to them really
quickly. Just use the Apple key where you would usually use Ctrl and you're
basically set. You'll also find that the dock is far more versatile than the
Windows taskbar, and things like Run in Windows are easily replaced by excellent
third-party applications such as Quicksilver. And nowadays, just about
everything -- including most games -- are released for both Mac and PC alike.
Um.....
For starters...
1. the company advertise outright lies,
2. OSX is extremely bloated, it consumes way too much memory and CPU cycles, and
3. Macs in general is closed source, much more so than windows.
The good thing about them is that:
1. the hardware is reliable
2. many good (expensive) graphic apps. availabe for macs.
3. easy to use
4. the PPC CPU is good at rendering images and other graphics in
general.
Quote by leviathanrkUm.....
For starters...
1. the company advertise outright lies,
2. OSX is extremely bloated, it consumes way too much memory and CPU cycles, and
3. Macs in general is closed source, much more so than windows.
1. No more so than other companies - I assume you're referring to the G5
benchmarking here. Read any company's press release.
2. No where nearly as much as X.P is. As a user of both here, OSX is a lot
smoother and faster. Unless of course you're using OSX 10.0, which was more of a
public beta than a legit release - from one who used it. Ugh.
3. You can get the OS (minus the GUI) free, open source
(http://developer.apple.com/darwin/). Can you do that for windows? Yes, the
hardware is more 'closed' in that you use a proprietary motherboard and cpu.
Otherwise? Not really.
I would rather have a mac, BUT only if I had Virtual Desktop (a program that
emulates windows) so I can use a task bar and use all my windows programs on it,
I would also consider just getting rid of OS X and just putting linux on it.
Macs have really powerful hardware (128 bit CPU vs PCs 32 bit), but the
operating system just blows, just put virtual desktop or linux on it and you
should be fine
I used Mac too. It is pretty fine except when bomb your work ^_^; And don't
worry, lot of PC software have Mac version too. Or something similar/better.
Quote by leviathanrk1. the company
advertise outright lies,
2. OSX is extremely bloated, it consumes way too much memory and CPU cycles, and
3. Macs in general is closed source, much more so than
windows.
This is outright f.u.d. If you claim any lies, detail them please.
OS X is a BSD derivative, and while certain components are closed source, its
internals are freely inspectable and the OS is extensible and repairable in ways
that Windows is not. I know of no one who uses a mac who is not happier than if
they were running Windows.
Quote by leviathanrkUm.....For
starters... 1. the company advertise outright lies,
2. OSX is extremely bloated, it consumes way too much memory and CPU cycles, and
3. Macs in general is closed source, much more so than windows.
The good thing about them is that:1. the hardware is reliable
2. many good (expensive) graphic apps. availabe for macs.3. easy to use
4. the PPC CPU is good at rendering images and other graphics in
general.
Mac OSX is not nearly as bug ridden and is more secure than WinXP.
Slick hardware - more stylish than most peecee boxes. I've been using intel
based machines with ms operating systems since the bad old days of intel 386 and
DOS 5.0; worked with W2K Pro and WinXP Pro sp2 - Give me an iMac with OSX any
damn day of the week! - The iPod rocks as well
Quote by leviathanrk1. the company
advertise outright lies,
2. OSX is extremely bloated, it consumes way too much memory and CPU
cycles, and 3. Macs in general is closed source, much more so than
windows.
This is outright f.u.d. If you claim any lies, detail them please.
OS X is a BSD derivative, and while certain components are closed
source, its internals are freely inspectable and the OS is extensible
and repairable in ways that Windows is not. I know of no one who uses a
mac who is not happier than if they were running Windows.
They don't technically lie in advertising. However, their practices are so
devious that they might as well be. They make claims and substantiate them with
benchmarks (everything is disclosed in the fine print). Essentially they run
benchmarks on the macs with super-optimized code and many performance tweaks
that would never be run in the real world due to extreme side effects. Then
they run benchmarks on other computers with many of the optimizations that ship
with every unit, turned off.
You be the judge of whether this is fair or not.
Quote by joepolo2002Mac OSX is not
nearly as bug ridden and is more secure than WinXP.
Slick hardware - more stylish than most peecee boxes.
It's
not really more secure than any other OS. Everyone targets windows because of
it's market share. If the same efforts were directed at OSX, you would see just
as many problems. OSX has "security through obscurity", which is
nothing more than a false sense of security. As for stylish stuff, have you
seen how much variety in PC hardware there is? Just because gateway ships lame
cases doesn't mean you can't buy them.
i don't hate macs like I used to. They have improved much over the years, but
they aren't anything special. When it comes down to cost, Macs are just too
damn expensive for me. It would be like buying an Intel chip for 2-3X the price
of an AMD one, just for that pentium sticker that comes with it.
The iPod is the only truly badass thing to come from Apple.
I've only had very limited experience with OS X, but if it does have FreeBSD
underpinnings, then I guess it's wouldn't hurt to learn a little unix, the net
is full or resources for all sorts of versions of unix. Mac OS has definately
come a long way since it's humble beginnings as a no console OS, But like I
stated above, learn a few UNIX commands, if Mac OS X is anything like other
Unix-like Operating Systems, you'll need to learn to use the console to maximize
the usage of your computer.
one day my friend found a computer sitting on the side of the road. he picked it up, and brought it home, and everything works fine! he didn't want it so he asked if i would lke it. "heck yeah!' I said.
surprisingly, here at college I am starting 2 new classes that use Macs exclusively (i have never used a mac) but the one I am getting is a G3 and the ones we will be using are G4s and G5s.
what do you guys like/dislike/love/hate about Macs and what are the diffferences between Windows computers?
I hate the one-button mice, I hate the lack of a proper task bar and I hate the fact that most software is written for Windows so doesn't work for them (OK, they often do Mac versions, but that's if you actually buy stuff legally
). You'll probably find the OS interface very awkward at first. x_X But I
guess you'd get used to it eventually.
I like the physical appearance of them (assuming it's a relatively new Mac) though, they're pretty.
Can't say I've used them that much though, I've mostly used Windows and Linux.
Perhaps it would have been better to ask this before you bought it
.
As for the mice, they can be changed for better mice and if you want to use this computer for media, then it is a very good platform and I'm sure you'll enjoy using it
.
I'm so shocked that this thread does not already exist.
Make sure you get Applecare. It's a great investment.
I am working with both Mac and PC and even as a graphic designer, I don't like mac's interface. It's not enough customizable, you can't really do what you want with it. And that horrible transparent background of all softwares when they're open... it's terrible, one wrong click and you're on the Finder... *dies* You can't maximize your windows either... there's always an empty space around it... Mac was first created for being family-friendly so you don't have to wonder about specific and tecnical stuffs so I guess it doesn't fit my bad habit to lurk around every corner of my machine.
cool, applcare, i'll remember that. as for aa-chan, It is being given to me (no money included) isn't that great? I'm on a MAC G5 right now, I love the 64 bit chip. the controls are slightly awkward though. and yeah, one button mice suck too.
I have a Dell desktop and a Apple Powerbook laptop; while the controls for Macintosh are slightly different, you get used to them really quickly. Just use the Apple key where you would usually use Ctrl and you're basically set. You'll also find that the dock is far more versatile than the Windows taskbar, and things like Run in Windows are easily replaced by excellent third-party applications such as Quicksilver. And nowadays, just about everything -- including most games -- are released for both Mac and PC alike.
Macs are particularly good for graphics manipulation, or so it would seem. There's a discussion of that on this thread:
http://forum.minitokyo.net/showthread/11309/
The bottom line: I'm extremely happy with my Macintosh.
Um.....
For starters...
1. the company advertise outright lies,
2. OSX is extremely bloated, it consumes way too much memory and CPU cycles, and
3. Macs in general is closed source, much more so than windows.
The good thing about them is that:
1. the hardware is reliable
2. many good (expensive) graphic apps. availabe for macs.
3. easy to use
4. the PPC CPU is good at rendering images and other graphics in general.
1. No more so than other companies - I assume you're referring to the G5 benchmarking here. Read any company's press release.
2. No where nearly as much as X.P is. As a user of both here, OSX is a lot smoother and faster. Unless of course you're using OSX 10.0, which was more of a public beta than a legit release - from one who used it. Ugh.
3. You can get the OS (minus the GUI) free, open source (http://developer.apple.com/darwin/). Can you do that for windows? Yes, the hardware is more 'closed' in that you use a proprietary motherboard and cpu. Otherwise? Not really.
-Andiyar
I would rather have a mac, BUT only if I had Virtual Desktop (a program that emulates windows) so I can use a task bar and use all my windows programs on it, I would also consider just getting rid of OS X and just putting linux on it. Macs have really powerful hardware (128 bit CPU vs PCs 32 bit), but the operating system just blows, just put virtual desktop or linux on it and you should be fine
I have a Mac. It's one of the cute round blue imac ppc jobs. It's the best doorstop I've ever had!
I used Mac too. It is pretty fine except when bomb your work ^_^; And don't worry, lot of PC software have Mac version too. Or something similar/better.
This is outright f.u.d. If you claim any lies, detail them please.
OS X is a BSD derivative, and while certain components are closed source, its internals are freely inspectable and the OS is extensible and repairable in ways that Windows is not. I know of no one who uses a mac who is not happier than if they were running Windows.
$0.02,
chip
Mac OSX is not nearly as bug ridden and is more secure than WinXP.
Slick hardware - more stylish than most peecee boxes. I've been using intel based machines with ms operating systems since the bad old days of intel 386 and DOS 5.0; worked with W2K Pro and WinXP Pro sp2 - Give me an iMac with OSX any damn day of the week! - The iPod rocks as well
http://spl.haxial.net/apple-powermac-G5/
They don't technically lie in advertising. However, their practices are so devious that they might as well be. They make claims and substantiate them with benchmarks (everything is disclosed in the fine print). Essentially they run benchmarks on the macs with super-optimized code and many performance tweaks that would never be run in the real world due to extreme side effects. Then they run benchmarks on other computers with many of the optimizations that ship with every unit, turned off.
You be the judge of whether this is fair or not.
It's not really more secure than any other OS. Everyone targets windows because of it's market share. If the same efforts were directed at OSX, you would see just as many problems. OSX has "security through obscurity", which is nothing more than a false sense of security. As for stylish stuff, have you seen how much variety in PC hardware there is? Just because gateway ships lame cases doesn't mean you can't buy them.
i don't hate macs like I used to. They have improved much over the years, but they aren't anything special. When it comes down to cost, Macs are just too damn expensive for me. It would be like buying an Intel chip for 2-3X the price of an AMD one, just for that pentium sticker that comes with it.
The iPod is the only truly badass thing to come from Apple.
I've only had very limited experience with OS X, but if it does have FreeBSD underpinnings, then I guess it's wouldn't hurt to learn a little unix, the net is full or resources for all sorts of versions of unix. Mac OS has definately come a long way since it's humble beginnings as a no console OS, But like I stated above, learn a few UNIX commands, if Mac OS X is anything like other Unix-like Operating Systems, you'll need to learn to use the console to maximize the usage of your computer.