I always believe that I as a person have no right to take a life of another.
Though time can change my point of view. I don't think I will ever play god. (
not that I believe in god or anything ) But whose has the right to make judgment
that will die for the crimes that you committed in the eyes of the law. People
are the one that made that choice and as everyone knows... no bodies is perfect
and people do make mistakes. I know their are not much case where someone was
found guilty but then was found not guilty 10 years later or so. Now if that
person was put to death. Someone just die for no reasons. But if it's one of
your love one. It might be a different story. Though I know it will not bring
back the one I love. So... I still don't know what I would do if that was the
case. Some people believe in the saying "an eye for an eye" I might as
well bring hell to those they love but then I would be no better then the devil
that stole my love ones from me.
In my opinion I think she should live. It's already been 5 days since their
remove her feeding tube on her husband request. What's your opinion on this, and
the subject about playing god?
Quote by SeifersytheNo. Call it the
Trigun influnce. But I believe no one has the right to kill anyone in any
situation.
I feel the same way but I do like to know alittle
about the case 1st before anything else
Quote by KotterThere are different ways
you can play Him. One should never be taken - killing. I'm definitely against
the death penalty.
I agree with you on the part that I too am
against the Death penalty to a point. I guess it's all the depends on how far
the person cross the line and if their are proof ( like on video or more then a
few eye withness ) that he did in fact did it. I might think twice about that...
I believe in the death penalty and stuff because I believe when we join a
government we effectively submit our rights to them. Now if you are like Stalin
and go around handing death penalties everywhere, thats another matter. But in
general I believe that the state should have control to do what it wants to it's
people in order to keep the peace of the state overall and give the greatest
happiness to all.
However I believe that one should never take punishment into one's own hands. If
we all begin to believe that as individuals we can individually make the choice
to kill people then we return to our most primal and basic state and all hope of
organized government is lost.
So the government has the right to play God, but not a person by himself.
I think they should let her die b/c its cruel to keep her alive like they have
been
I mean if i were her I would rather be dead than live like that, people have the
right to
die and its not really playing god its doing the right thing, god has nothing to
do with it
and as for the death penalty, thats a bit ify i mean I would feel bad if you
executed teh wrong
person but if the person was really guilty of murder or something that serious
they deserve
to be punished even if that means death but thats just me and I know I a bit
cold but people
need ot die so the population will die down and keep the flow even, I mean thats
why we need more wars lol JUST playing ^^'
hehe sounds like a fun game..i call buddha
anyways on a more serious note
when your turn 18 you can sign a legal document and keep it with you
which states that you are willing to not live on life support if you are unable
to make the decision yourself from an accident..
in Terri's case she had signed that document but they are still keeping her
alive...
our president is trying to make it so that they never pull the plug but i think
if someone agrees to not be a burden to anyone and not cost tax payers any more
money. then you should do as they wish...
Quote by gamewizard11So the
government has the right to play God.
I don't know about
this it's kind of scary to let them think for us. The people have to
agree with it in a way. Like war and stuff. You just don't go playing god with
all those life that will effect the entire nations.
Quote by DarkMaiden1369I think
they should let her die b/c its cruel to keep her alive like they have been
I mean if i were her I would rather be dead than live like that, people have the
right to
die and its not really playing god its doing the right thing, god has nothing to
do with it
The thing is... The parents wants to keep her
alive. He doesn't. Though he's the next of kin. He also has a new girlfriend in
which he has a kid with. So I don't think it's his right to say so. Not to
mention that she is starving to death. Not that easy even though they say she
shouldn't feel a thing. Their is also a nurse that came out to say that she did
made approvement in the 1st year in therapy but was taken off on the husband
requested after receiving the money from something I forgot. I just don't trust
this guy. He seems to want her dead a little too much too soon. Even the reason
why she became like that is still a question cause only he and her would know. I
can get into more details of why I don't trust this guy but I have to leave work
for now.
Well I don't think people have to muder. I can't image a person stuping to the
level where you have to kill them. I think that's just plane insane. Talk about
immature. Nor do I think people should "play god" ether. That's just
plane freaky. So I think things are fine the way they are.
Quote by DarkSaviorThe thing is... The
parents wants to keep her alive. He doesn't. Though he's the next of kin. He
also has a new girlfriend in which he has a kid with. So I don't think it's his
right to say so. Not to mention that she is starving to death. Not that easy
even though they say she shouldn't feel a thing. Their is also a nurse that came
out to say that she did made approvement in the 1st year in therapy but was
taken off on the husband requested after receiving the money from something I
forgot. I just don't trust this guy. He seems to want her dead a little too much
too soon. Even the reason why she became like that is still a question cause
only he and her would know. I can get into more details of why I don't trust
this guy but I have to leave work for now.
This case is
taking the US (and possibly the world) by storm. I have to agree with
DarkSavior, though. Who knows if the husband's motives are with her best
interest in mind...and, as DS pointed out, only he and her know the reason that
she's like she is. Maybe he doesn't want her to recover...? But abou thte
starvation, I found an article on CNN that says "Without liquids, it could
take Schiavo two to four weeks to die from dehydration" (CNN
article). That's just...well, cruel (in my opinon); starvation is a slow,
painful, terrible way to die. Who am I to say what should be done in this
situation? I'm not sure...but I really hate to think of anyone dying in such a
way (no matter where they are).
Quote: I believe in the death
penalty and stuff because I believe when we join a government we effectively
submit our rights to them
I don't recall joining a government. Did I miss the sign up sheet? Oh. You mean
where I was born. I didn't have any control over that, and if you think I owe my
government something just because I happened to fall out of a vagina on there
self-proclaimed land, you've got another thing coming.
And we don't have to give our rights to anyone, idiot. That's why there called
RIGHTS. Rights. As in something we have a RIGHT to do. Privilges are something
we give to the government, but under no circumstances should our rights be
violated, like that damned Patriot Act.
I don't believe anyone has the right to kill another person, regardless what the
motive is. Of course, everybody has somebody they hate but to actually murder
someone for whatever reason is wrong.
Quote by Chopstickzin Terri's case she
had signed that document but they are still keeping her
alive...
Not true... She did not sign anything that in close
to that. It's the Husband word that their are going with just to let you
know...
Quote by AlishaSo I think things are fine
the way they are.
Not sure where you are from but I believe
nothing is never fine in my honest opinion
Quote by CLAMPchicThis case is taking
the US (and possibly the world) by storm. I have to agree with DarkSavior,
though. Who knows if the husband's motives are with her best interest in
mind...and, as DS pointed out, only he and her know the reason that she's like
she is. Maybe he doesn't want her to recover...? But abou thte starvation, I
found an article on CNN that says "Without liquids, it could take Schiavo
two to four weeks to die from dehydration" (CNN
article). That's just...well, cruel (in my opinon); starvation is a slow,
painful, terrible way to die. Who am I to say what should be done in this
situation? I'm not sure...but I really hate to think of anyone dying in such a
way (no matter where they are).
Yay! Someone agree with me
Well... it's been 6 days now. Just yesterday, A 10year old kid was arrested for
trying to give her a glass of water. And more nurse are coming out too. They are
saying that at one point when his wife had a urineary track infection. He would
burst out saying in joy is she going to die? When is that B!tch going to die? I
know it might not mean anything but who's knows?
Quote by bibimbapi dun think i have the
right...but that doesn't mean they dun deserve it or i dun want to kill em
^^;;
I wouldn't want to take a life of another too unless
he's trying to kill me and I have no other choice.
Quote by dutchforceeverybody has
somebody they hate but to actually murder someone for whatever reason is wrong.
I know what you mean... You can't go around killing everyone
you hate. You can try... But I don't recommend it ' lol.
Anyway... Thanks for replying and showing that you do care what goes on around
the world. Whether you agree or disagree? I just want you to think about it
i believe in the color "Gray". my morality system is highly
complicated. allow me to explain. if a crime such as raping or murdering a
child is commited i personally would have zero problems with torturing and
executing the criminal myself. terrorists, warmongers, rapists, serial killers
- should die. i have always hated bullies and never ever hestitated confronting
them - perhaps judical systems should try the same. forgive my inherent lack
of confidence in world judical systems.
for the record to clarify: i believe life is precious and should be not only
embraced but guarded. my family and close friends i would do anything for them
and i wish them the best lives possible.
but for those whom commited atrocious acts. they should die if their crimes
warrant such a measure.
sadly we live in a world upon which people do things that most of us wouldn't
even dream of. hell, we have people whom not only torture and kill their
innocent victims but eat them as well. Jeffrey Dahmer, anyone? it was a great
day when i read how his fellow inmates killed him in prison.
does anyone know how much it costs to "care for" a prisoner in jail
[US]? lets just say if you took the money it costs the United States and her
taxpayers a poor student could go to Harvard or Yale.
now if a person commits a lesser crime such as: stealing a car, robbing a bank
etc. then they should just do some time in prison.
my beliefs are alinged with the great Babylonian king, Hammurabi.
"When Anu the Sublime, King of the Anunaki, and Bel, the lord of Heaven and
earth, who decreed the fate of the land, assigned to Marduk, the over-ruling son
of Ea, God of righteousness, dominion over earthly man, and made him great among
the Igigi, they called Babylon by his illustrious name, made it great on earth,
and founded an everlasting kingdom in it, whose foundations are laid so solidly
as those of heaven and earth; then Anu and Bel called by name me, Hammurabi, the
exalted prince, who feared God, to bring about the rule of righteousness in the
land, to destroy the wicked and the evil-doers; so that the strong should not
harm the weak; so that I should rule over the black-headed people like Shamash,
and enlighten the land, to further the well-being of mankind." [Source with a list
of all Laws]
for those who may be confused or don't like to read a lot; in essence the
preceding paragraph states a reflection of Hammurabi's desire to provide laws
that will protect the oppressed no matter their station in life.
isn't that the essence or purpose of having laws and enforcing them?
Schiavo- pull the plug. she wants to be taken away from this hell we call
earth. 15 years in a coma. she is alive in name only. this is a serious
waste of medical resources and the judical system. the media is making it an
"event" and freaking Congress and Bush are involved. Like our
fearless asshole leader, Bush needs further distractions.
am i a god? why yes, jk
Quote by KotterI think prisoners should
work very hard for their livellihood then it'd be fair. It'd be enough as a
penance.
:bows: Kotter i respect you always and we are almost always in agreement but i
must disagree. certain people are dangerous and have no compassion for anyone-
so killing them is just and right. sometimes breaking rocks, making license
plates, and getting molested by a guy names Bubba just isn't enough for some of
these animales.
Quote by gamewizard11I believe in
the death penalty and stuff because I believe when we join a government we
effectively submit our rights to them. Now if you are like Stalin and go around
handing death penalties everywhere, thats another matter. But in general I
believe that the state should have control to do what it wants to it's people in
order to keep the peace of the state overall and give the greatest happiness to
all. However I believe that one should never take punishment into one's own
hands. If we all begin to believe that as individuals we can individually make
the choice to kill people then we return to our most primal and basic state and
all hope of organized government is lost.
So the government has the right to play God, but not a person by
himself.
joining a gov't? you meant elect right?
hmm. your pontification on justice and inherent belief in government's right to
rule and exercise justice is highly dubious and dangerous.
do you know how many people Stalin and Hilter killed?
Stalin had 20 million Russian peasants killed.
Hitler had > 5 million Jewish people tortured and killed.
human nature is to blame as well. most humans have an inherent desire for
power and wealth [which is ok] but once attained the need to oppress others sets
in and then problems begin...
honestly we need a "Philosopher King" as envisioned by Plato to lead.
Quote by gamewizard11
So the government has the right to play God, but not a person by
himself.
Oh really? But what if that person was really innocente or how do you know if
its conspiracy? See the movie, 'the Life of David Gale" good movie, based
on a true story...But not just that, its just something to think about.
As for the rest, we shouldn't kill, like dream said, hey, my ideas are like
yours For certain crimes, just kill them, like a serial killer, if you
know its them, the psychologists all said that they agreed on that persons mind,
then, yeah, just give them the death penalty. But really, it shound't have to
come to that.
under a personal note normaly i dont think i have the right but if given the
order from my master(if have questions mail me) i will obey and play god
compared to the people though i am against deth-due to personall experience(same
as last parainthasesor whatever thay are called)-
Wow dream! You wrote alot ^^' But when you said...
Quote by DREAMSchiavo- pull the plug. she
wants to be taken away from this hell we call earth. 15 years in a coma. she
is alive in name only. this is a serious waste of medical resources and the
judical system. the media is making it an "event" and freaking
Congress and Bush are involved.
I believe ( just me ) that
I have no right to say how you live your life and would never just take your
life away just because I find it meaning less. If it was me? I would be still
alive for the people I love because it makes them happy even though I suffer.
But you know me... I'm ~Death's Adversary~
, and I will always chose life ( You know the reason )
dream, my god man! *applauds* really, that was spectacular! From personal
observation, rarely are any politicians in politics for the good of the people.
The want what many people want, power, money, and nasty little closets full of
dirty little skeletons! Heh, really. The Justice system had a nice start but
now it is all loop holes and thick tape. All of it is now just a crock, in the
real world corporations and sponsorship are the main bodies running the US
government. No, I’m no a conspiracy
addict. If the politicians were more for the people they would focus on the
things that really matter, social services, schools, health care, improving the
work force, higher education, need I go on? Yet they
don’t, they sit around their richly
furnished offices and lean the way their sponsors say they should, endorsers the
things that will bring them even more of a political gain. Our society is so
obsessed with sex, money, and power that
we’re missing the things that are going
on here that need our immediate attention. I agree that crimes committed by
repeated sex offenders, child molesters, and serial killers should be kacked. I
think it depends on the circumstances of the crime as to it warranting the death
penalty or not. I also think that a prisoner needs to spend
his/er/it’s time in jail with something
other than playing the one hour in the yard, jacking off, and getting used as a
play thing by Bubba. Furthering their education and being enrolled in programs
that give them the skills to contribute to society otherwise
they’ll just go back to what works and
puts bread on the table.
On another note, I believe in assisted suicide. I do not think that neither the
government, nor other people who are not personally attached to the situation
would be able to understand. So, I do note that they have valid points but what
rights do you have over some ones right to chose to live or die? I mean it is
the same basis of religion – what right does
anyone have to decide what god or goddess someone else worships? No one. I
guess abortion goes in this same category . . .well roughly. I guess
I’ll use myself as an example. I was in
love with a boy *blah, blah, blah* I got pregnant *blah, blah* and we moved up
our wedding by three months and moved across the country. I decided not to get
an abortion because a child conceived in love *blah, blah* are in many ways
meant to be. So, had I been raped, not been emotionally ready to deal with the
responsibilities, or a one night stand I would have had an abortion. Although,
don’t get me wrong I almost gave my
second child to other loving parents because I was pretty certain that I
wasn’t ready for two kids. Heh, kept
him and got my tubes tied *snickers* But if a person does plan to keep the
child, adoption with people who are more than happy to allow you to continue to
have a relationship with your child is just fine. Giving the kid up and
forgetting about it is not. Okay going off topic a bit there. As for the Teri
case, I know that I would not like to be stuck living that way, but then I am
not a part of the situation so my opinion holds absolutely no merit. Although I
do agree that the husband needs to be looked at *winks*
Yeah , DarkSavior there are some pretty fucked up people out there. Horrific
thoughts just resonating in their heads. I believe it is their choice to be like
that, eithier being rapists,serial killers,etc. Probaly most of them dont even
feel remorse for what they have done.
I guess my point is that there is always going to be a consequence on any life's
choices. If those people choose to do those type of things they better realize
they have consequences for those actions. If the consequence is in their own
demise , so be it. I dont believe its a matter of "playing god" but
justice.
Quote by TemplarKnightYeah ,
DarkSavior there are some pretty fucked up people out there. Horrific thoughts
just resonating in their heads. I believe it is their choice to be like that,
eithier being rapists,serial killers,etc. Probaly most of them dont even feel
remorse for what they have done.
I guess my point is that there is always going to be a consequence on any life's
choices. If those people choose to do those type of things they better realize
they have consequences for those actions. If the consequence is in their own
demise , so be it. I dont believe its a matter of "playing god" but
justice.
There is always a consequence in what you do...
Well said ^^
though how would you know in fact that their did do the crime? For the truth is
in the eye of the beholder. True, someone could be convicted for the crime
because he or she was found guilty. But if we are wrong? We just played god to a
life that was innocent (Salem Witch Trials). But I do agree in the cause and
effect approach. And just to let you know... it's nice seeing you around
again.(Not sure if you left)
I always believe that I as a person have no right to take a life of another. Though time can change my point of view. I don't think I will ever play god. ( not that I believe in god or anything ) But whose has the right to make judgment that will die for the crimes that you committed in the eyes of the law. People are the one that made that choice and as everyone knows... no bodies is perfect and people do make mistakes. I know their are not much case where someone was found guilty but then was found not guilty 10 years later or so. Now if that person was put to death. Someone just die for no reasons. But if it's one of your love one. It might be a different story. Though I know it will not bring back the one I love. So... I still don't know what I would do if that was the case. Some people believe in the saying "an eye for an eye" I might as well bring hell to those they love but then I would be no better then the devil that stole my love ones from me.
Anyway... I was just wondering if anyone is hearing this story about Terri Schiavo. Here is one of the links http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/csm/20050323/cm_csm/eschiavox_1
In my opinion I think she should live. It's already been 5 days since their remove her feeding tube on her husband request. What's your opinion on this, and the subject about playing god?
No. Call it the Trigun influnce. But I believe no one has the right to kill anyone in any situation.
There are different ways you can play Him. One should never be taken - killing. I'm definitely against the death penalty.
I feel the same way but I do like to know alittle about the case 1st before anything else
I agree with you on the part that I too am against the Death penalty to a point. I guess it's all the depends on how far the person cross the line and if their are proof ( like on video or more then a few eye withness ) that he did in fact did it. I might think twice about that...
I believe in the death penalty and stuff because I believe when we join a government we effectively submit our rights to them. Now if you are like Stalin and go around handing death penalties everywhere, thats another matter. But in general I believe that the state should have control to do what it wants to it's people in order to keep the peace of the state overall and give the greatest happiness to all.
However I believe that one should never take punishment into one's own hands. If we all begin to believe that as individuals we can individually make the choice to kill people then we return to our most primal and basic state and all hope of organized government is lost.
So the government has the right to play God, but not a person by himself.
I think prisoners should work very hard for their livellihood then it'd be fair. It'd be enough as a penance.
I think they should let her die b/c its cruel to keep her alive like they have been
I mean if i were her I would rather be dead than live like that, people have the right to
die and its not really playing god its doing the right thing, god has nothing to do with it
and as for the death penalty, thats a bit ify i mean I would feel bad if you executed teh wrong
person but if the person was really guilty of murder or something that serious they deserve
to be punished even if that means death but thats just me and I know I a bit cold but people
need ot die so the population will die down and keep the flow even, I mean thats why we need more wars lol JUST playing ^^'
hehe sounds like a fun game..i call buddha
anyways on a more serious note
when your turn 18 you can sign a legal document and keep it with you
which states that you are willing to not live on life support if you are unable to make the decision yourself from an accident..
in Terri's case she had signed that document but they are still keeping her alive...
our president is trying to make it so that they never pull the plug but i think if someone agrees to not be a burden to anyone and not cost tax payers any more money. then you should do as they wish...
I don't know about this
it's kind of scary to let them think for us. The people have to
agree with it in a way. Like war and stuff. You just don't go playing god with
all those life that will effect the entire nations.
The thing is... The parents wants to keep her alive. He doesn't. Though he's the next of kin. He also has a new girlfriend in which he has a kid with. So I don't think it's his right to say so. Not to mention that she is starving to death. Not that easy even though they say she shouldn't feel a thing. Their is also a nurse that came out to say that she did made approvement in the 1st year in therapy but was taken off on the husband requested after receiving the money from something I forgot. I just don't trust this guy. He seems to want her dead a little too much too soon. Even the reason why she became like that is still a question cause only he and her would know. I can get into more details of why I don't trust this guy but I have to leave work for now.
Well I don't think people have to muder. I can't image a person stuping to the level where you have to kill them. I think that's just plane insane. Talk about immature. Nor do I think people should "play god" ether. That's just plane freaky. So I think things are fine the way they are.
This case is taking the US (and possibly the world) by storm. I have to agree with DarkSavior, though. Who knows if the husband's motives are with her best interest in mind...and, as DS pointed out, only he and her know the reason that she's like she is. Maybe he doesn't want her to recover...? But abou thte starvation, I found an article on CNN that says "Without liquids, it could take Schiavo two to four weeks to die from dehydration" (CNN article). That's just...well, cruel (in my opinon); starvation is a slow, painful, terrible way to die. Who am I to say what should be done in this situation? I'm not sure...but I really hate to think of anyone dying in such a way (no matter where they are).
i dun think i have the right...but that doesn't mean they dun deserve it or i dun want to kill em ^^;;
I don't recall joining a government. Did I miss the sign up sheet? Oh. You mean where I was born. I didn't have any control over that, and if you think I owe my government something just because I happened to fall out of a vagina on there self-proclaimed land, you've got another thing coming.
And we don't have to give our rights to anyone, idiot. That's why there called RIGHTS. Rights. As in something we have a RIGHT to do. Privilges are something we give to the government, but under no circumstances should our rights be violated, like that damned Patriot Act.
I don't believe anyone has the right to kill another person, regardless what the motive is. Of course, everybody has somebody they hate but to actually murder someone for whatever reason is wrong.
Not true... She did not sign anything that in close to that. It's the Husband word that their are going with just to let you know...
Not sure where you are from but I believe nothing is never fine in my honest opinion
Yay! Someone agree with me
Well... it's been 6 days now. Just yesterday, A 10year old kid was arrested for
trying to give her a glass of water. And more nurse are coming out too. They are
saying that at one point when his wife had a urineary track infection. He would
burst out saying in joy is she going to die? When is that B!tch going to die? I
know it might not mean anything but who's knows?
I wouldn't want to take a life of another too unless he's trying to kill me and I have no other choice.
I know what you mean... You can't go around killing everyone you hate. You can try... But I don't recommend it ' lol.
Anyway... Thanks for replying and showing that you do care what goes on around the world. Whether you agree or disagree? I just want you to think about it
"An eye for an eye, Death is too good for you."
i believe in the color "Gray". my morality system is highly complicated. allow me to explain. if a crime such as raping or murdering a child is commited i personally would have zero problems with torturing and executing the criminal myself. terrorists, warmongers, rapists, serial killers - should die. i have always hated bullies and never ever hestitated confronting them - perhaps judical systems should try the same. forgive my inherent lack of confidence in world judical systems.
for the record to clarify: i believe life is precious and should be not only embraced but guarded. my family and close friends i would do anything for them and i wish them the best lives possible.
but for those whom commited atrocious acts. they should die if their crimes warrant such a measure.
sadly we live in a world upon which people do things that most of us wouldn't even dream of. hell, we have people whom not only torture and kill their innocent victims but eat them as well. Jeffrey Dahmer, anyone? it was a great day when i read how his fellow inmates killed him in prison.
does anyone know how much it costs to "care for" a prisoner in jail [US]? lets just say if you took the money it costs the United States and her taxpayers a poor student could go to Harvard or Yale.
now if a person commits a lesser crime such as: stealing a car, robbing a bank etc. then they should just do some time in prison.
my beliefs are alinged with the great Babylonian king, Hammurabi.
"When Anu the Sublime, King of the Anunaki, and Bel, the lord of Heaven and earth, who decreed the fate of the land, assigned to Marduk, the over-ruling son of Ea, God of righteousness, dominion over earthly man, and made him great among the Igigi, they called Babylon by his illustrious name, made it great on earth, and founded an everlasting kingdom in it, whose foundations are laid so solidly as those of heaven and earth; then Anu and Bel called by name me, Hammurabi, the exalted prince, who feared God, to bring about the rule of righteousness in the land, to destroy the wicked and the evil-doers; so that the strong should not harm the weak; so that I should rule over the black-headed people like Shamash, and enlighten the land, to further the well-being of mankind." [Source with a list of all Laws]
for those who may be confused or don't like to read a lot; in essence the preceding paragraph states a reflection of Hammurabi's desire to provide laws that will protect the oppressed no matter their station in life.
isn't that the essence or purpose of having laws and enforcing them?
Schiavo- pull the plug. she wants to be taken away from this hell we call earth. 15 years in a coma. she is alive in name only. this is a serious waste of medical resources and the judical system. the media is making it an "event" and freaking Congress and Bush are involved. Like our fearless asshole leader, Bush needs further distractions.
am i a god? why yes, jk
:bows: Kotter i respect you always and we are almost always in agreement but i must disagree. certain people are dangerous and have no compassion for anyone- so killing them is just and right. sometimes breaking rocks, making license plates, and getting molested by a guy names Bubba just isn't enough for some of these animales.
joining a gov't? you meant elect right?
hmm. your pontification on justice and inherent belief in government's right to rule and exercise justice is highly dubious and dangerous.
do you know how many people Stalin and Hilter killed?
Stalin had 20 million Russian peasants killed.
Hitler had > 5 million Jewish people tortured and killed.
human nature is to blame as well. most humans have an inherent desire for power and wealth [which is ok] but once attained the need to oppress others sets in and then problems begin...
honestly we need a "Philosopher King" as envisioned by Plato to lead.
Oh really? But what if that person was really innocente or how do you know if its conspiracy? See the movie, 'the Life of David Gale" good movie, based on a true story...But not just that, its just something to think about.
As for the rest, we shouldn't kill, like dream said, hey, my ideas are like yours
For certain crimes, just kill them, like a serial killer, if you
know its them, the psychologists all said that they agreed on that persons mind,
then, yeah, just give them the death penalty. But really, it shound't have to
come to that.
There is no way to justify taking a life
under a personal note normaly i dont think i have the right but if given the order from my master(if have questions mail me) i will obey and play god compared to the people though i am against deth-due to personall experience(same as last parainthasesor whatever thay are called)-
Wow dream! You wrote alot ^^' But when you said...
I believe ( just me ) that I have no right to say how you live your life and would never just take your life away just because I find it meaning less. If it was me? I would be still alive for the people I love because it makes them happy even though I suffer. But you know me... I'm ~Death's Adversary~ , and I will always chose life ( You know the reason )
dream, my god man! *applauds* really, that was spectacular! From personal observation, rarely are any politicians in politics for the good of the people. The want what many people want, power, money, and nasty little closets full of dirty little skeletons! Heh, really. The Justice system had a nice start but now it is all loop holes and thick tape. All of it is now just a crock, in the real world corporations and sponsorship are the main bodies running the US government. No, I’m no a conspiracy addict. If the politicians were more for the people they would focus on the things that really matter, social services, schools, health care, improving the work force, higher education, need I go on? Yet they don’t, they sit around their richly furnished offices and lean the way their sponsors say they should, endorsers the things that will bring them even more of a political gain. Our society is so obsessed with sex, money, and power that we’re missing the things that are going on here that need our immediate attention. I agree that crimes committed by repeated sex offenders, child molesters, and serial killers should be kacked. I think it depends on the circumstances of the crime as to it warranting the death penalty or not. I also think that a prisoner needs to spend his/er/it’s time in jail with something other than playing the one hour in the yard, jacking off, and getting used as a play thing by Bubba. Furthering their education and being enrolled in programs that give them the skills to contribute to society otherwise they’ll just go back to what works and puts bread on the table.
On another note, I believe in assisted suicide. I do not think that neither the government, nor other people who are not personally attached to the situation would be able to understand. So, I do note that they have valid points but what rights do you have over some ones right to chose to live or die? I mean it is the same basis of religion – what right does anyone have to decide what god or goddess someone else worships? No one. I guess abortion goes in this same category . . .well roughly. I guess I’ll use myself as an example. I was in love with a boy *blah, blah, blah* I got pregnant *blah, blah* and we moved up our wedding by three months and moved across the country. I decided not to get an abortion because a child conceived in love *blah, blah* are in many ways meant to be. So, had I been raped, not been emotionally ready to deal with the responsibilities, or a one night stand I would have had an abortion. Although, don’t get me wrong I almost gave my second child to other loving parents because I was pretty certain that I wasn’t ready for two kids. Heh, kept him and got my tubes tied *snickers* But if a person does plan to keep the child, adoption with people who are more than happy to allow you to continue to have a relationship with your child is just fine. Giving the kid up and forgetting about it is not. Okay going off topic a bit there. As for the Teri case, I know that I would not like to be stuck living that way, but then I am not a part of the situation so my opinion holds absolutely no merit. Although I do agree that the husband needs to be looked at *winks*
But really dream, that was perfect.
Yeah , DarkSavior there are some pretty fucked up people out there. Horrific thoughts just resonating in their heads. I believe it is their choice to be like that, eithier being rapists,serial killers,etc. Probaly most of them dont even feel remorse for what they have done.
I guess my point is that there is always going to be a consequence on any life's choices. If those people choose to do those type of things they better realize they have consequences for those actions. If the consequence is in their own demise , so be it. I dont believe its a matter of "playing god" but justice.
There is always a consequence in what you do...
Well said ^^ though how would you know in fact that their did do the crime? For the truth is in the eye of the beholder. True, someone could be convicted for the crime because he or she was found guilty. But if we are wrong? We just played god to a life that was innocent (Salem Witch Trials). But I do agree in the cause and effect approach. And just to let you know... it's nice seeing you around again.(Not sure if you left)
Well i don't have the right, but if i want to play God i just turn on Black & White, and show them (the computer people) how should be god!