Does it bother you knowing that the anime fandom is regarded as one of the
stupidest fandoms on the net? Personally with me, yes it does. It bothers me,
knowing that the majority of the fandom is clogged with stupid 14-year olds who
talk in chat-speak, writing fanfiction based after the newest Evanescence song.
There seems to be no real intellect or depth involved in appreciating the art
form at all these days. More like silly teenagers worshipping manga creators
whos names they spell and pronounce wrong. I think the following conversation
explains what I'm talking about.
Eeveeblaze: Well.. my favourites include Angel Sanctuary, Deus Vitae, Neon
Genesis Evangelion, Tenkuu no Escaflowne and Gilgamesh.
Annonymous1( name changed for the sake of respect): OMG!!!111ROTFL i luvv
eva!!!! it soooooo physcologicall ! DDDD
EeveeBlaze: .............Do you even know what thet means?
Annonymous1: it freeky and reis sooooooooo cool!!!!!!!!111
Please, share your opinions, I wish to have a serious discussion about this,
worthless flames defending your silly fangirly honour will not be appreciated.
My sentiments exactly! I may not be as well versed in anime as most others, but
the majority of the attitudes towards the fandom of their choice has become
somewhat of a deterrent - a reason for others to dislike a particular series.
And that's really quite sad.
In making an attempt to create a somewhat decent conversation, I'm often left
disappointed when those I converse with lack the knowledge... nay, understanding
for that which they claim to love so much. Furthermore, they are blind to the
faults of their chosen fandom. Close-mindedness isn't something to be proud of,
yet so many show it freely in conversation. Such fans are blind - failing to
see that it isn't perfect, that "cool" is a relative word, and that
being asked why they favor one series over another means giving more than a
one-sentence response.
I don't mean to be insulting, and I appologize to anyone who may see it as such,
but people often show their ignorance when they fail to defend themselves and
their fandom against others by means of a coherent arguement.
Quote by SolidSnake2017Its nice to
feel superior to others doesn't it.....
owned!!
i have to agree with solid, "regarded" is the key word. Its what they
think. It the same thing with geeks and nerds, we are looked down upon why?
Because of our success. I love anime and I could careless what you say to me to
get my to stop. It may be stupid to you, but its great for me. I'm already an
outcast by society so the fact that you say such things doesn't effect me in the
slightest way.
"I'd sooner smoke my ass to death, than piece together means of
success."
A tidbit of modern social mechanics, no? But hey! Rather than be one to praise
the gravity of conformity, we sit at home, stare at monitors and watch
cellshaded japanese girls squiek shamelessly reproachable phrases at guys who
return with the equivilent, and jump around in metal suits, highlighting the
anime stereotype... Jeez, i love anime
Now... that part, no problem. Good. But there was, once upon a time, a day when
I loathed anime. When I despised the japanese humdrum of high pitched voices and
squirmy faces, the previously hefty task of reading subtitles over and over,
that accompanied by those scratches on the chalkboard they call voices.
And oh, father have I sinned... how I've regretted the error of my early days.
At the time I thought people crazy to be even remotely infatuated with something
of the like. Then, I thought them to be... heathens ... And it didn't help that
those I met who enjoyed it shed little light on any possible reason to like
it.
Until that day... That one day. The reckoning, the coming of the daylord. Or...
shall i say, the day I watched Chobits. Or when it was introduced to me by one
friend who appreciated anime for reasons beyond those single worded paragraph
descriptions provided by earlier 'fans.'
I was... enlightened! Sure, chobits wasn't the greatest show, but this friend
showed me a different perspective, he shed light on a side I never realized. And
forever, has this wonderful thing brightened my heart and opened my eyes to
nirvana... aah
And now, I'm the only guy on the block that'll watch any and all shows
regardless of their rating, their popularity, genre (excluding hentai) and
expense. From freak to freak. But there is certainly one thing this transition
has taught me.....
I am -very- proud to be one!
Now... the moral, point and opinion of the story, and what you've all be waiting
for (hopefully), hypothesis: this breed of ill-kempt fan/meatbag (KotoR pun) has
created the stereotype people want so badly to avoid, and have created a sort of
barricade for potential 'pioneers' of our beautiful religion.
You could say it's like those who pretend to have the disease so they can have
the pity, whilst the real ones are then casts out as liars for their difference
in behavior.
And yes, it does bother me, as it does that people relate that stereotype to
anyone who claims to like anime, but I guess these 'psuedo-fans' serve as a
buffer-zone for when the outside world does come crashing down. bwahaha...
ahem
But, that's just me rambling. Sorry if I'd passed the notion that I was being
sarcastic, and ignore my melodramatic tendencies, i get... caught up in the
moment ... that's happened before --
but, just for the sake of spicing up otherwise boring words... amen
More power to those that think they're better than the geeks involved in anime
fandom. And hey, I'm one of those proud geeks. I plan on being that way for a
long time.
I could make several notes about the things they enjoy as well, I'm sure.
considering there are a lot of idiotic anime fans out there, no it doesnt really
bother me. besides, its the internet. one should never take what is on the
internet seriously
I don't think anime fandom is stupid. I love anime because of how it's, well,
animated. The colors, the designs. Its very visually appealing to me. And if it
has an awesome story line, even better! There are A LOT of things that bug me
about anime- like the constant whimpering when characters are doing something
stressful, or the overly large boobs, and overly dramatic characters! But, just
the same.. I still heart anime. I'm not afraid to admit it =)
to be honest...from the people I know and like anime...I have found none that
can't sustain a smart conversation and sustain theyr point of vieu or they
choice in liking anime...but he...in my country..you won't find so many anime
fans...they are scatterd all over and seldom meet...only in big citys. To be an
anime fan doesn't necessary mean to be a nerd..or to be isolated from other
people(I can't belive what I'm saying).It's just that my friends know I lke
anime, and they accept me like that...they ma conssider me a little weird...but
hey....they love me for that...no?
It is true that my classmates for example aren't open minded at all...but
what I'm saying is that...you can't expect that everybody who likes anime is the
same...there are people who can talk to ypu and you can enjoy the
conversation...and people who don't ...they don't represent the whole group
sooo....keep it up in enjoying anime and manga
You can't say all fans of this are nerds,those who like this are the dumbest
persons in the world,because it depends on the person.OF course there ARE DUMB
anime FANS.But don't forget there are always dumb and smart fans.Depends on the
person.
Quote by SolidSnake2017Its nice to
feel superior to others doesn't it.....
owned!!
i have to agree with solid, "regarded" is the key word. Its what they
think. It the same thing with geeks and nerds, we are looked down upon why?
Because of our success. I love anime and I could careless what you say to me to
get my to stop. It may be stupid to you, but its great for me. I'm already an
outcast by society so the fact that you say such things doesn't effect me in the
slightest way.
Exactly. Regard. I am saying that there IS a reputation like that out there
about anime fans. What I'm asking, is how do you feel that the entire fandom is
being stereotyped that way just because of the majority of senseless stupid
individuals. I know I've been shunned because I've said that I'm part of the
anime fandom, and people assume that I'm an unintellectual 13 year old who can't
spell. I'm asking how do you feel about that reputation. Do you think it's
justified?
I'd consider this more stereotypical than a reputation, eevee. Calling this a
reputation sounds, to me, as if it's already been verified overwhelmingly and is
a given. I'll agree that some anime fans have some sincere issues (to put it
lightly), but for the better part -- I've found we're the more
"free-flowing" intellectual crowd. We're more open to insight and less
scripted to the workings of daily life.
Maybe that's just my experiences there shining through, I'm not sure.
I've just always considered anime to be something along the lines of books --
imaginary works of art given to you for your viewing, or reading in a book or
manga's case, pleasure.
Just to continue on a rant (because I'm bored and a muscle relaxer has hold of
me rather nicely at the moment), you'll find the majority of people making these
sorts of assumptions regarding anime are the types that've watched fifteen
minutes of a Pokemon episode and feel they're justified in slamming a whole
genre of series. This sort of goes back to the whole thread(s) regarding anime
and the way people react to you knowing you watch anime.
Sorry. Remind me to stop going on and on next time.
I'm really tired of kids proclaiming their otakudom when they haven't even
watched a show away from American television. I agree with the statement and I
think the otaku should simply ignore these kids and rank them somewhere
inbetween otaku and normal until they grow up and wisen up!
True, true, however there are a few better sites out there dedicated to more
mature, quality fandom. I've recently joined one that hosts fanfiction and
fanart - anyone can post their addresses on the forums to their own fandom, but
only the best of the best is hosted on the site, and anything you submit
directly to the site has to be pretty good to pass through the moderaters. Its
all checked by them first, so no trashy stuff is posted.
i guess if there were more sites like this, it might be better for anime people
who are sick of getting trashed all the time by not-so-great works of art.
Probably, but why bother?
Just let them come.
Well, I'm not so far an anime fan, but here goes this:
-Guy: "i', atheist".
-Philosopher: "But why? Why do you consider atheits?"
-Guy: "Because I hate 'god'"
-Philosopher: "Have you ever read the bible?"
-Guy: "No, I'm atheist"
-Philospher: "Then you're not atheist, but a stupid moron, because, how can
you hate 'god' if you doen's even know about him?"
That's it.
Just correct the ones going wrong (so religous).
Note: real atheits forgive me about this. I required this hypothetical case as
an explanation.
That's my opinion.
What I am really tired of is how a large part of the world does not really
understand things like anime and manga are not just for kids. True it does not
help the most noticeable group of anime and manga fans are likely kids, or early
teens but it is still a misconception I tire of people having all the time. I
do agree with some things that have been said and also think that sadly most of
what people consider or perhaps only things they know to be anime are shows like
Pokemon, which is geared toward a
younger audience. It is truly sad to me how little these people know that anime
can also be geared toward an older audience, such as with shows like Girls Bravo and Bakuretsu Tenshi which are clearly not aimed at the same age
group or target audience as Pokemon
would be aimed.
So I am not sure if it is the individuals which people see on the net who are
putting such a reputation toward anime fans so much as an misunderstanding of
anime as a whole genre as the start of such a reputation. Sadly most people
still think of anime as being little different then cartoons and manga as little
different then "comics", which with a very few exceptions are not
considered something made for adults. Now most of us know none of that is true,
a lot of the jokes in cartoons can be for adults while still something kids will
laugh at and anime and manga is for everyone some are more for kids and some are
more for adults.
Therefore I do think the question is not targeted the right core of the reason
people see anime fandom as "being the stupidest fandom on the net"..
It's not the fans who people see which is the largest problem it is the fact
those fans merely confirm what those people already think of anime.
Seriously, if you look at any thing that has fans, from sci-fi movies to classic
novels and you will find a certain expected stereotype of fans for each group
and it is not hard to find such fans that fit the expected group type if you are
looking for them and if they actually do exist, even if it is the minority,
within that fandom. So it's not hard for a lot of people to see anime fandom as
"being the stupidest fandom on the net" if they are looking for people
that will fit that mold, since it is obvious they do exist. Still that means I
think the real problem is peoples first thoughts about anime, which lead them to
look for such a fandom to exist and when they find even a few like that they
feel "vindicated" in their opinion.
I hope all that rambling at least made a little sense.
Well I really don't care, why to pay attention, you know is not true so why to
feel like that, that happends a lot, isn't going to change that fast. So I don't
pay attention only enjoy anime!
Quote by SolidSnake2017Its nice to
feel superior to others doesn't it.....
owned!!
i have to agree with solid, "regarded" is the key word. Its what they
think. It the same thing with geeks and nerds, we are looked down upon why?
Because of our success. I love anime and I could careless what you say to me to
get my to stop. It may be stupid to you, but its great for me. I'm already an
outcast by society so the fact that you say such things doesn't effect me in the
slightest way.
i agree with Shadowlinex.and i can't say that anime is stupid.i like it.at first
i thought i wouldn't like anime at all not until my brother's got me to watch
anime.and i started to like it more.and there is nothing that u or other people
can do to make me stop watching anime
I so agree with rmuyo. Just think of this, there are many types of fans because
there are many types of people. We encounter stupid people all the time, just as
we encounter stupid anime fans on here. Not because we encounter mostly stupid
anime fans, it doesn't mean that there are no smarter anime fans, it's just we
havent met them yet. Overall I dont think anime fandom is stupid. I dont think
any fandom is stupid. Just hope that the stereotype on anime fans is gone. Most
people who think anime fandom is stupid must have encounter lots of dumb nuts
who were anime fans.
I think there is an enormous misinterpretation of what I have been saying. I am
not saying it is bad or shameful or stupid to like anime. I am asking if you
feel that in this fandom, there are many people of whom you personally have
found annoying or juvinile, that you wish YOUR reputation as an anime fan
wasn't based upon.
The girl I encoountered was one of the people that personally, I cannot stand,
and it hurts knowing that THAT mentality is what the rest of the world thinks of
anime fans. I realize that there are plenty of smart, intelligent and
intellectual anime fans out there, but sadly, that does not appear to be the
visable majority. Do you feel like an outcast, when on every forum thread, you
seem to be the only person with a point? Does it feel odd, knowing that your
fandom seems to be made up of a bunch of idiots that swarm around a good thing?
I'm asking how you feel about those stupid fangirls and boys, and if you think
the reputation of the majority of anime fans made up of them is true.
I personally am beginning to think that they are justified, because out of the
many anime fans I have met, I have met, but a small majority who can hold a
decent conversation.
i don't want to hear any more arguments about how anime is good, and how it
isn't stupid. I'm well aware of it, but out of your own experiance, do you think
this reputation against the fandom is justified.
Quote by eeveeblaze Do you feel like
an outcast, when on every
forum thread, you seem to be the only person with a point? Does it feel
odd, knowing that your fandom seems to be made up of a bunch of idiots
that swarm around a good thing? I'm asking how you feel about those
stupid fangirls and boys, and if you think the reputation of the
majority of anime fans made up of them is true.
Yes, it is annoying to respond to a thread, only to have everyone ignore you for
the reason that they clearly do not understand the series as you do, for the
reason that they don't feel like reading a long post, or even because they don't
have the slightest idea what you're talking about. It really is a shame, since
these kinds of people, do indeed reflect the majority of the fandom - regardless
of whatever series it may be.
But you know what? As annoying as it is to read the same idiotic post after
another, I find it rather amusing to bring them down... no, knock them down from
their high-horse. If they can manage to hold their own against any arguement
against their favored fandom, then good for them - they have earned my respect -
but most fail horribly and miserably.
There are but a few fans of Gundam Wing (my favored fandom) that I have been
fortunate enough in meeting and having true, intellectual discussions with.
Unfortunately, it's rare to find such individuals (for any fandom). So, whilst
waiting for such a fated meeting, test yourself and test others dedication to
their fandom and see who will be the first to fall. ^^
Quote by eeveeblaze Do you feel like
an outcast, when on every forum thread, you seem to be the only person with a
point? Does it feel odd, knowing that your fandom seems to be made up of a bunch
of idiots that swarm around a good thing? I'm asking how you feel about those
stupid fangirls and boys, and if you think the reputation of the majority of
anime fans made up of them is true.
I personally am beginning to think that they are justified, because out of the
many anime fans I have met, I have met, but a small majority who can hold a
decent conversation.
i don't want to hear any more arguments about how anime is good, and how it
isn't stupid. I'm well aware of it, but out of your own experiance, do you think
this reputation against the fandom is justified.
personally,
i am proud to be an anime fan and i don't care if someone attaches a stigma to
me because of that. i don't think it is right to knock other anime fans.
regardless of how they type or whatnot, they're an anime fan... aren't we all
brought together by our love of anime? my little brother (age 10) loves
evangelion... i'm sure if someone created a thread about evangelion he'd post
something like what that girl wrote to you...he doesn't realize/understand all
of the deeper meanings within it, but does that make him any less of an
evangelion fan? yes, sometimes i feel the need for some intelligent discussion,
but then i just search for an interesting thread or create a thread. i'm not
going to go so far as to say that i swim in a sea of "idiots" because
that's just plain not nice. (sry if i didn't actually answer your questions...)
Does it bother you knowing that the anime fandom is regarded as one of the stupidest fandoms on the net? Personally with me, yes it does. It bothers me, knowing that the majority of the fandom is clogged with stupid 14-year olds who talk in chat-speak, writing fanfiction based after the newest Evanescence song.
There seems to be no real intellect or depth involved in appreciating the art
form at all these days. More like silly teenagers worshipping manga creators
whos names they spell and pronounce wrong. I think the following conversation
explains what I'm talking about.
Eeveeblaze: Well.. my favourites include Angel Sanctuary, Deus Vitae, Neon Genesis Evangelion, Tenkuu no Escaflowne and Gilgamesh.
Annonymous1( name changed for the sake of respect): OMG!!!111ROTFL i luvv eva!!!! it soooooo physcologicall !
DDDD
EeveeBlaze: .............Do you even know what thet means?
Annonymous1: it freeky and reis sooooooooo cool!!!!!!!!111
Please, share your opinions, I wish to have a serious discussion about this, worthless flames defending your silly fangirly honour will not be appreciated.
My sentiments exactly! I may not be as well versed in anime as most others, but the majority of the attitudes towards the fandom of their choice has become somewhat of a deterrent - a reason for others to dislike a particular series. And that's really quite sad.
In making an attempt to create a somewhat decent conversation, I'm often left disappointed when those I converse with lack the knowledge... nay, understanding for that which they claim to love so much. Furthermore, they are blind to the faults of their chosen fandom. Close-mindedness isn't something to be proud of, yet so many show it freely in conversation. Such fans are blind - failing to see that it isn't perfect, that "cool" is a relative word, and that being asked why they favor one series over another means giving more than a one-sentence response.
I don't mean to be insulting, and I appologize to anyone who may see it as such, but people often show their ignorance when they fail to defend themselves and their fandom against others by means of a coherent arguement.
Its nice to feel superior to others doesn't it.....
owned!!
i have to agree with solid, "regarded" is the key word. Its what they think. It the same thing with geeks and nerds, we are looked down upon why? Because of our success. I love anime and I could careless what you say to me to get my to stop. It may be stupid to you, but its great for me. I'm already an outcast by society so the fact that you say such things doesn't effect me in the slightest way.
"I'd sooner smoke my ass to death, than piece together means of success."
A tidbit of modern social mechanics, no? But hey! Rather than be one to praise the gravity of conformity, we sit at home, stare at monitors and watch cellshaded japanese girls squiek shamelessly reproachable phrases at guys who return with the equivilent, and jump around in metal suits, highlighting the anime stereotype... Jeez, i love anime
Now... that part, no problem. Good. But there was, once upon a time, a day when I loathed anime. When I despised the japanese humdrum of high pitched voices and squirmy faces, the previously hefty task of reading subtitles over and over, that accompanied by those scratches on the chalkboard they call voices.
And oh, father have I sinned... how I've regretted the error of my early days. At the time I thought people crazy to be even remotely infatuated with something of the like. Then, I thought them to be... heathens ... And it didn't help that those I met who enjoyed it shed little light on any possible reason to like it.
Until that day... That one day. The reckoning, the coming of the daylord. Or... shall i say, the day I watched Chobits. Or when it was introduced to me by one friend who appreciated anime for reasons beyond those single worded paragraph descriptions provided by earlier 'fans.'
I was... enlightened! Sure, chobits wasn't the greatest show, but this friend showed me a different perspective, he shed light on a side I never realized. And forever, has this wonderful thing brightened my heart and opened my eyes to nirvana... aah
And now, I'm the only guy on the block that'll watch any and all shows regardless of their rating, their popularity, genre (excluding hentai) and expense. From freak to freak. But there is certainly one thing this transition has taught me.....
I am -very- proud to be one!
Now... the moral, point and opinion of the story, and what you've all be waiting for (hopefully), hypothesis: this breed of ill-kempt fan/meatbag (KotoR pun) has created the stereotype people want so badly to avoid, and have created a sort of barricade for potential 'pioneers' of our beautiful religion.
You could say it's like those who pretend to have the disease so they can have the pity, whilst the real ones are then casts out as liars for their difference in behavior.
And yes, it does bother me, as it does that people relate that stereotype to anyone who claims to like anime, but I guess these 'psuedo-fans' serve as a buffer-zone for when the outside world does come crashing down. bwahaha... ahem
But, that's just me rambling. Sorry if I'd passed the notion that I was being sarcastic, and ignore my melodramatic tendencies, i get... caught up in the moment
... that's happened before 
--
but, just for the sake of spicing up otherwise boring words... amen
More power to those that think they're better than the geeks involved in anime fandom. And hey, I'm one of those proud geeks. I plan on being that way for a long time.
I could make several notes about the things they enjoy as well, I'm sure.
considering there are a lot of idiotic anime fans out there, no it doesnt really bother me. besides, its the internet. one should never take what is on the internet seriously
I don't think anime fandom is stupid. I love anime because of how it's, well, animated. The colors, the designs. Its very visually appealing to me. And if it has an awesome story line, even better! There are A LOT of things that bug me about anime- like the constant whimpering when characters are doing something stressful, or the overly large boobs, and overly dramatic characters! But, just the same.. I still heart anime. I'm not afraid to admit it =)
I so agree, you have to know everything and know how they are suppose to be and how they are not! I so agree with this! 100%
to be honest...from the people I know and like anime...I have found none that can't sustain a smart conversation and sustain theyr point of vieu or they choice in liking anime...but he...in my country..you won't find so many anime fans...they are scatterd all over and seldom meet...only in big citys. To be an anime fan doesn't necessary mean to be a nerd..or to be isolated from other people(I can't belive what I'm saying).It's just that my friends know I lke anime, and they accept me like that...they ma conssider me a little weird...but hey....they love me for that...no?
It is true that my classmates for example aren't open minded at all...but what I'm saying is that...you can't expect that everybody who likes anime is the same...there are people who can talk to ypu and you can enjoy the conversation...and people who don't ...they don't represent the whole group
sooo....keep it up in enjoying anime and manga
Thats life for oyu its a huge point view
You can't say all fans of this are nerds,those who like this are the dumbest persons in the world,because it depends on the person.OF course there ARE DUMB anime FANS.But don't forget there are always dumb and smart fans.Depends on the person.
Exactly. Regard. I am saying that there IS a reputation like that out there about anime fans. What I'm asking, is how do you feel that the entire fandom is being stereotyped that way just because of the majority of senseless stupid individuals. I know I've been shunned because I've said that I'm part of the anime fandom, and people assume that I'm an unintellectual 13 year old who can't spell. I'm asking how do you feel about that reputation. Do you think it's justified?
I'd consider this more stereotypical than a reputation, eevee. Calling this a reputation sounds, to me, as if it's already been verified overwhelmingly and is a given. I'll agree that some anime fans have some sincere issues (to put it lightly), but for the better part -- I've found we're the more "free-flowing" intellectual crowd. We're more open to insight and less scripted to the workings of daily life.
Maybe that's just my experiences there shining through, I'm not sure.
I've just always considered anime to be something along the lines of books -- imaginary works of art given to you for your viewing, or reading in a book or manga's case, pleasure.
Just to continue on a rant (because I'm bored and a muscle relaxer has hold of me rather nicely at the moment), you'll find the majority of people making these sorts of assumptions regarding anime are the types that've watched fifteen minutes of a Pokemon episode and feel they're justified in slamming a whole genre of series. This sort of goes back to the whole thread(s) regarding anime and the way people react to you knowing you watch anime.
Sorry. Remind me to stop going on and on next time.
I'm really tired of kids proclaiming their otakudom when they haven't even watched a show away from American television. I agree with the statement and I think the otaku should simply ignore these kids and rank them somewhere inbetween otaku and normal until they grow up and wisen up!
True, true, however there are a few better sites out there dedicated to more mature, quality fandom. I've recently joined one that hosts fanfiction and fanart - anyone can post their addresses on the forums to their own fandom, but only the best of the best is hosted on the site, and anything you submit directly to the site has to be pretty good to pass through the moderaters. Its all checked by them first, so no trashy stuff is posted.
i guess if there were more sites like this, it might be better for anime people who are sick of getting trashed all the time by not-so-great works of art.
Probably, but why bother?
Just let them come.
Well, I'm not so far an anime fan, but here goes this:
-Guy: "i', atheist".
-Philosopher: "But why? Why do you consider atheits?"
-Guy: "Because I hate 'god'"
-Philosopher: "Have you ever read the bible?"
-Guy: "No, I'm atheist"
-Philospher: "Then you're not atheist, but a stupid moron, because, how can you hate 'god' if you doen's even know about him?"
That's it.
Just correct the ones going wrong (so religous).
Note: real atheits forgive me about this. I required this hypothetical case as an explanation.
That's my opinion.
What I am really tired of is how a large part of the world does not really understand things like anime and manga are not just for kids. True it does not help the most noticeable group of anime and manga fans are likely kids, or early teens but it is still a misconception I tire of people having all the time. I do agree with some things that have been said and also think that sadly most of what people consider or perhaps only things they know to be anime are shows like Pokemon, which is geared toward a younger audience. It is truly sad to me how little these people know that anime can also be geared toward an older audience, such as with shows like Girls Bravo and Bakuretsu Tenshi which are clearly not aimed at the same age group or target audience as Pokemon would be aimed.
So I am not sure if it is the individuals which people see on the net who are putting such a reputation toward anime fans so much as an misunderstanding of anime as a whole genre as the start of such a reputation. Sadly most people still think of anime as being little different then cartoons and manga as little different then "comics", which with a very few exceptions are not considered something made for adults. Now most of us know none of that is true, a lot of the jokes in cartoons can be for adults while still something kids will laugh at and anime and manga is for everyone some are more for kids and some are more for adults.
Therefore I do think the question is not targeted the right core of the reason people see anime fandom as "being the stupidest fandom on the net".. It's not the fans who people see which is the largest problem it is the fact those fans merely confirm what those people already think of anime.
Seriously, if you look at any thing that has fans, from sci-fi movies to classic novels and you will find a certain expected stereotype of fans for each group and it is not hard to find such fans that fit the expected group type if you are looking for them and if they actually do exist, even if it is the minority, within that fandom. So it's not hard for a lot of people to see anime fandom as "being the stupidest fandom on the net" if they are looking for people that will fit that mold, since it is obvious they do exist. Still that means I think the real problem is peoples first thoughts about anime, which lead them to look for such a fandom to exist and when they find even a few like that they feel "vindicated" in their opinion.
I hope all that rambling at least made a little sense.
Well I really don't care, why to pay attention, you know is not true so why to feel like that, that happends a lot, isn't going to change that fast. So I don't pay attention only enjoy anime!
i agree with Shadowlinex.and i can't say that anime is stupid.i like it.at first i thought i wouldn't like anime at all not until my brother's got me to watch anime.and i started to like it more.and there is nothing that u or other people can do to make me stop watching anime
I so agree with rmuyo. Just think of this, there are many types of fans because there are many types of people. We encounter stupid people all the time, just as we encounter stupid anime fans on here. Not because we encounter mostly stupid anime fans, it doesn't mean that there are no smarter anime fans, it's just we havent met them yet. Overall I dont think anime fandom is stupid. I dont think any fandom is stupid. Just hope that the stereotype on anime fans is gone. Most people who think anime fandom is stupid must have encounter lots of dumb nuts who were anime fans.
I think there is an enormous misinterpretation of what I have been saying. I am not saying it is bad or shameful or stupid to like anime. I am asking if you feel that in this fandom, there are many people of whom you personally have found annoying or juvinile, that you wish YOUR reputation as an anime fan wasn't based upon.
The girl I encoountered was one of the people that personally, I cannot stand, and it hurts knowing that THAT mentality is what the rest of the world thinks of anime fans. I realize that there are plenty of smart, intelligent and intellectual anime fans out there, but sadly, that does not appear to be the visable majority. Do you feel like an outcast, when on every forum thread, you seem to be the only person with a point? Does it feel odd, knowing that your fandom seems to be made up of a bunch of idiots that swarm around a good thing? I'm asking how you feel about those stupid fangirls and boys, and if you think the reputation of the majority of anime fans made up of them is true.
I personally am beginning to think that they are justified, because out of the many anime fans I have met, I have met, but a small majority who can hold a decent conversation.
i don't want to hear any more arguments about how anime is good, and how it isn't stupid. I'm well aware of it, but out of your own experiance, do you think this reputation against the fandom is justified.
Yes, it is annoying to respond to a thread, only to have everyone ignore you for the reason that they clearly do not understand the series as you do, for the reason that they don't feel like reading a long post, or even because they don't have the slightest idea what you're talking about. It really is a shame, since these kinds of people, do indeed reflect the majority of the fandom - regardless of whatever series it may be.
But you know what? As annoying as it is to read the same idiotic post after another, I find it rather amusing to bring them down... no, knock them down from their high-horse. If they can manage to hold their own against any arguement against their favored fandom, then good for them - they have earned my respect - but most fail horribly and miserably.
There are but a few fans of Gundam Wing (my favored fandom) that I have been fortunate enough in meeting and having true, intellectual discussions with. Unfortunately, it's rare to find such individuals (for any fandom). So, whilst waiting for such a fated meeting, test yourself and test others dedication to their fandom and see who will be the first to fall. ^^
personally, i am proud to be an anime fan and i don't care if someone attaches a stigma to me because of that. i don't think it is right to knock other anime fans. regardless of how they type or whatnot, they're an anime fan... aren't we all brought together by our love of anime? my little brother (age 10) loves evangelion... i'm sure if someone created a thread about evangelion he'd post something like what that girl wrote to you...he doesn't realize/understand all of the deeper meanings within it, but does that make him any less of an evangelion fan? yes, sometimes i feel the need for some intelligent discussion, but then i just search for an interesting thread or create a thread. i'm not going to go so far as to say that i swim in a sea of "idiots" because that's just plain not nice. (sry if i didn't actually answer your questions...)