Are Gays Sick???
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gay? nothing against it. well, i believe what most people here believe. although it's hard sometimes, when it's against your religon. i do believe it's unnatural, and sad, because they can't ever have children of their own, unless of course they adopt. since they're so many different kinds of couples in the world, it shouldn't matter if some are like that. as long as you're happy, it doesn't matter who your soulmate is! ^^
because its just not normal, end
`Let's get a few things straight:
1. Homosexuality isn't caused by your birth, God made you to procreate with women. The reason people are gay is because they choose to be. Usually it is because men are hornier younger and want to have sex around age 15 while girls don't feel ready yet, so guys go have sex with other men.
2. Homosexuality isn't a sin I gues... But sodomy is and God said in the Bible that Sodomy is a sin against god.
In my opinion homosexuality is explicitly wrong. (Sorry Shuichii..., Sorry Ishida...) I don't really think gays will go to hell though, I think that god will show mercy.
i personally dislike homosexuality , it's just unnatural . everybody should go his own way but i just can't stand thinking about it
Being gay is not to be blamed on the person , it is a hormone imbalance that takes place before the person is born.an eperiment had taken place in wich men were subjected to female hormones and the men's hormones showed a big reaction, then gay males were subjected to female hormones and no reaction, same with gay women but vise versa. so it is scientifacally proven that males cannot choose to be gay, just as women cannot choose to be gay.
Right, and Jesus told us all to love each other. So with that in mind, even IF gay people were horrible atrocities of nature (which certainly they are not), shouldn't you still treat them with love and respect?
i don't see how homosexuality is so horrible anyways. I mean, it shouldn't affect YOU any more than heterosexual relationships. If two people are happy with each other and their genders happen to be the same, OK, great--better than the multitudes of rapes and cheating wives/husbands and other familial disasters that plague our poor little species.
btw, as a biological behavior, actually homosexuality is not isolated to humans. Apparently, they've found it in certain monkeys and giraffes, too. :/
Mmm to tie to anime, actually Japan is *very* accepting of homosexuality. Go watch Saber Marionette J, or especially Gravitation.
Just be open-minded--not everyone is Christian or believes in the Bible, and not all Christians are anti-gay.
I hardly think that a person's feelings can be stopped by sheer will. This seems to be a growing misconception these days as the ignorant, self-professed know-it-alls are believe that this is truly the cure for everything. If such is the case, then why are people suffering from depression, bipolar disorder, etc.? No one wants to pay for drugs, and no one wants to be ill. You could call it escapism, but sometimes people can help themselves. The same can be said for gay people.
I firmly believe that gay people are born into that interest. Does that make them "ill"? Of course not. This is merely more persecution against their beliefs. I know because I have seen many good gay people in my life, never infringing on mine and living perfectly happy normal lives. Yes, HIV and AIDs are a problem, but this is also in the heterosexual community as well, isn't it? There are ways to treat and prevent these illnesses for all. It is at the cost of those who engage in such activities to look after themselves, not strictly because they are gay.
Finally, I am getting so tired of people hiding behind the Bible. I am a Christian, and I am still tired of all this gay-bashing. You must remember that this was a book written thousands of years ago, by a number of different men and through their interpretations. Interpretations that could have as much validity as falsehood, but I digress. I do believe that the Bible is meant to ispire, not to act as a rulebook of life. Also, wasn't it Jesus that had always preached that you must love others as you do yourself?
Jesus loved the sick, the provocative, and the traitorous... What makes you think that gay people who try to follow their faith (and even those who do not) should be persecuted for being themselves?
It's good to have gays in the world... it increases the number of single women for me!
i agree with you sarisasenshi
Zacks, you can't just say 'because it's unnatural' because that's not true...and it's not the end of it either
i think that you cant help what you are attracted to and that doesn't make you sick because of it
homophobia is sheer biogtry just like racisism
If you're hate gays then you're violating the international law of the right of human...
As it stated that discriminations, segregations or any kind of racism will be seem as guilty, in the worse case, you will be hang for discriminating gays!!!!
just kidding, i made up that law XP
*laguhs* still it should be law i think....
Using the bible as a piece of evidence against homosexuality is utterly ridiculus. Not all people believe in the bible and as such do not have to believe that homosexuality is bad because of that. Also considering that the bible allows for slavery and genocide I can hardly say that it's the "good book" Here's an example of genocide in the bible where God orders Moses to completely destroy the peopel of Canaan.
Deuteronomy 20:10-17
"When you draw near a city to fight against it, offer terms of peace to it. And if its answer to you is peace and it opens to you, then all the people who are found in it shall do forced labour for you and shall serve you. But if it makes no peace with you, but makes war against you, then you shall besiege it; and when the Lord your God gives it into your hand you shall put all its male to the sword, but the women and the little ones, the cattle, and everything else in the city, all its spoil, you shall take as booty for yourself; and you shall enjoy the spoil of your enemy, which the Lord God has given to you. Thus you shall do to all the cities which are far from you, which are not cities of the nations here. In the cities of these people that the Lord your God gives you an inheritance, you shall save alive nothing that breathes but you shall utterly destroy them, the Hittites and the Amoriotes, the Canaanites and the Jebusites, as the Lord your God has commanded."
I don't think homosexuality is genetic always either. I think it's nurture. If someone is raised in a environment where homosexuality is accepted I'd think there'd be a greater chance of a person being bisexual or at least tolerant of others. If homosexuality was only genetic I'd think it'd be less common. Also there should be family trees filled with homosexuals if this were the case. This however is not always true.
It cannot even be said that homosexuality is unnatural. Lots of things can be considered unnatural. For example are cars natural? Obviously not because I have yet to find a car living in the wild in it's "natural" habitat. Is the whole of human society including the murderers, the psychopaths, and the molesters natural? I hope not. Some might say because homosexuals cannot reproduce would make them unnatural. In the future this may not be true. As cloning and genetic engineering become more advanced we may one day see the first child born to a gay couple. (I'm assuming they are lesbians. If not they may use a surrogate mother.)
In the end I say homosexuality is a byproduct created by an society that is growing more and more complex. I'm all for homosexuality.
Well that's my two cents.
"Mmm to tie to anime, actually Japan is *very* accepting of homosexuality. Go watch Saber Marionette J, or especially Gravitation.
Just be open-minded--not everyone is Christian or believes in the Bible, and not all Christians are anti-gay."
As far as I heard in Japan if you are gay you pretty much get your head cut off. (Don't base everything you know about Japan from anime plz. thx... ) Also, the Bible hasn't said anything about "slaughter you gay neighbor"... (God does that himself...)
Jesus said Go forth and multiply, as far as I know men don't have any means of fertilizing an egg...
//*laguhs* still it should be law i think....//
Stfu fascist >.>
You guys really mean to tell me that some guy, doing another guy in the same place he goes to the bathroom is "sweet" and "cute", and "alright because he was born that way"...?
"I can hardly say that it's the "good book"
Dude shut up! Really shut up! There are many Jewish people on this forum, many who may be traditional, and you are talking about how their religious book is wrong? Really you aren't going to get any sympathy for you homosexuality like that. Tell me what great religion your practicing that make Jeudaism wrong?
"better than the multitudes of rapes and cheating wives/husbands and other familial disasters that plague our poor little species. smiley"
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Gay families have harder problems that heterosexual families and there is such thing as gay rape. Why do you see homosexuality as the cure for modern family problems?
(BTW I hope from this post you understand I'm not anti gay... I just don't like mintokyo lol...[j/k], and I'm not trying to say your opinions are entirely wrong (except maybe the fascist one and the slightly anti- semetic one...))
i agree....the bible can not automatically be assumed to be correct because there are other religons/scriputres that are tolerate of homosexuality. and just on the 'cant produce children' neither can sterile men or infertile women...so they should not be able to fall in love and have sex because the can't have kids?
Awesome! WAMP IN '06!
"As far as I heard in Japan if you are gay you pretty much get your head
cut off. (Don't base everything you know about Japan from anime plz.
thx... )"
Then we have heard different things
As far as
I know, homosexuality hasn't been out of place in Japanese history (samurai,
kabuki, etc) but I'll concede that I'm not very knowledgeable about modern Japan
I'm from San Francisco. As far as I know, we're very tolerant here (I mean, they have Gay Pride days/parades/whatevers). Haha TV is getting more tolerant too
"Also, the Bible hasn't said anything about "slaughter you gay
neighbor"... (God does that himself...)"
Dunno, but in Dante's Inferno:
"There sodomy is treated as a form of lust, the least serious of the seven capital sins expiated on the seven terraces of the mountain of Purgatory. The homosexually oriented souls move through the fire on the topmost terrace of the lustful, as do also, but in a counter direction, their opposite numbers, the heterosexually oriented souls, who had been located above them in Hell by a full five circles.
Every other offense is more blameworthy than these two fleshly faults. In the seventh infernal circle, sodomites had been placed lower than all the incontinent sinners, but now they are promoted above all but the carnal wrongdoers, with whom they are on a par, and so they are now accounted less culpable than misers or spendthrifts or gluttons."
from http://www.glbtq.com/literature/dante.html
Plus, I assume "love thy neighbor" means you should accept them and not think they're "sick"
"Jesus said Go forth and
multiply, as far as I know men don't have any means of fertilizing an
egg... //*laguhs* still it should be law i think....//"
Yeah, but then bachelors don't belong in the church either ?_?
"You guys really mean to tell me that some guy, doing another guy in the
same place he goes to the bathroom is "sweet" and "cute", and "alright
because he was born that way"...?"
I really wouldn't know, but I thought they could do that in the bedroom, and yeah that'd be alright with me if it was alright with them AND if I didn't have to watch it... but would I want to watch straight sex? no, not at all, thanks much
"Why do you see homosexuality as the cure for modern family problems?"
I didn't mean that, I'm not saying "hey let's ALL BE gay"... if two men love each other, great--go ahead, it's much better than other societal "problems" like rape and such
http://forum.minitokyo.net//showthread/22744/ - Here's another thread asking for opinions about homosexual people. In addition, for the mods, please refrain from flaming or insulting another member, race, or nationality due to the nature of this type of thread.