almost all of the teenager today losses their discipline and they tend to do
something not good to their health that they don't have to do, like drinking
liquors, smoking, and worst, taking illegal drugs and participating some
pre-marital sex...
so, since almost all of the member herein MT are teenagers, and
younger...
What do you think would be the best way for teenagers to have discipline in
their self and have the proper concntration for their studies, Families and
church obligation...
*adults and parents are the best adviser here...*
for me, to keep myself from some bad habits and bad situation, I concentrate on
my studies and i do my on regulations and I set my focus of mind on not doing
the things above and other bad things that may cause others and even my own life
into suferings and pain... also, I ask for God's Help and guidance fr me to keep
safe and away from bad influences...
I don't have a clue... even if I keep out of all these things.
Just the way I was raised (by my parents and also school) I guess... Maybe
explaining the reasons is a good solution but some really want to do forbidden
things and don't think about the future (why care about a cancer if smoking is
relaxing ?)... even if by example it's hard to say they're clever by following a
group.
Quote by alminaI don't have a clue... even
if I keep out of all these things.
Just the way I was raised (by my parents and also school) I guess... Maybe
explaining the reasons is a good solution but some really want to do forbidden
things and don't think about the future (why care about a cancer if smoking is
relaxing ?)... even if by example it's hard to say they're clever by following a
group.
hehehe, some people are so hard headed and even they know the consequences they
will still do those forbidden things just for the sake of their egoistic mind
and body...
about raising by parents, eventhough that I was not raised by my parents with
proper and enough care, love and attention...like the quote "bread alone
cannot feed a child" if a child will just realized by him/herself (just
like what I did) while they are young and set their mind on what is good and
bad... they can manage to have discipline for theirselves...right?
sometimes, you have to learn on your own, 'coz learning on your own is much
better if someone will teach you this and that.....
reading books(like bible) and calling for God's Help and guidance will really
help a person..right?
Quote by Shijirokenalmost all of the
teenager today losses their discipline and they tend to do something not good to
their health that they don't have to do, like drinking liquors, smoking, and
worst, taking illegal drugs and participating some pre-marital
sex...
I agree.
Quote by Shijirokenfor me, to keep
myself from some bad habits and bad situation, I concentrate on my studies and i
do my on regulations and I set my focus of mind on not doing the things above
and other bad things that may cause others and even my own life into suferings
and pain... also, I ask for God's Help and guidance fr me to keep safe and away
from bad influences...
I agree with you. ^^
i think as teenagers we need to focus in our studies because it's important to
us. We need discipline to do our responsibilities..
Quote by shijirokenalmost all of the
teenager today losses their discipline and they tend
to do something not good to their health that they don't have to do,
like drinking liquors, smoking, and worst, taking illegal drugs and
participating some pre-marital sex...
I agree. I don't understand how people can do those things to themselves and
then get themselves into a deeper, more serious problem.
Personally, I'd resort with the Internet to get away from these bad
situations.... As for my studies, I'd probably want to sustain my grades since
that's how I was raised - to get good marks... As for family, I'm not really
that tight with my family members, except my aunt and my brother, which is
probably because of how I was raised again. I've spent the most time with them
during my childhood, so I can depend on them for help and guidance. Other than
having previous experiences, I think doing family outings are a good way to get
away from these bad situations. The best way for a teenager or someone younger
to learn to self-discipline themselves is probably best through rewards - if you
do something good, reward yourself, or if the child is very young, the
parent/guardian can do this.
Quote by shijirokenWhat do you think
would be the best way for teenagers to have discipline in their self and have
the proper concntration for their studies, Families and church
obligation...
Welll...I may be the weird one, but quite honestly those are the LAST things
that should be focused on. Its the whole 'obligation' thing..a large part of
teenage mentality is 'I dont wanna do what Im told'. Dont make it an obligation.
Find a way to make them WANT to do it.
Me, I actually enjoyed studying..not school, it was far too simple; stuff like
nuclear physics, astronomy, genetics, advanced chemistry, calculus..that was my
speed. As for family...I used to be, but more and more its becoming both a chore
and a nuisance. I want to do what *I* want, to live MY life, not cater to
someone else. And Im not a religious person, I havent even stepped into a church
since age 5, so Im not free to comment exactly. But if the teen in question
dosent want to go, they wont or will simply give the absolute minimum to get by.
Its human nature; dont wanna do it but forced to, you get crap.
Quote by shijirokenWhat do you think
would be the best way for teenagers to have discipline in their self and have
the proper concntration for their studies, Families and church
obligation...
Welll...I may be the weird one, but quite honestly those are the LAST things
that should be focused on. Its the whole 'obligation' thing..a large part of
teenage mentality is 'I dont wanna do what Im told'. Dont make it an obligation.
Find a way to make them WANT to do it.
Me, I actually enjoyed studying..not school, it was far too simple; stuff like
nuclear physics, astronomy, genetics, advanced chemistry, calculus..that was my
speed. As for family...I used to be, but more and more its becoming both a chore
and a nuisance. I want to do what *I* want, to live MY life, not cater to
someone else. And Im not a religious person, I havent even stepped into a church
since age 5, so Im not free to comment exactly. But if the teen in question
dosent want to go, they wont or will simply give the absolute minimum to get by.
Its human nature; dont wanna do it but forced to, you get
crap.
you're right, we must not forced those teenager to do this and that if they
don't want to do that, they must like the stuff they want to do.... but
apparently, sometimes, they do some bad things which is not a good thing to,
eventhough they want to do this.... that's why there is natural law and norms in
a society also there is the bible and the rules and regulations in a country,
right? so, sometimes, not forcing but advising those teenagers by their
parents/Guardians...some teenagers are lucky to have parents that will guide
them but they just ignored all those care and do the stuff they want... they
don't even consider the advises.. unlike me, nothing...
we are just giving some advises here on how to keep our discipline if we have
some, so that if a person will visit this forum, they will have some choices on
what things they will do just to forget those vices.. hehe
Quote by AkaikenDiscipline...
I don't smoke! I don't drink liquor (well, occasionally)! I don't gamble!
It's a matter of how you handle yourself with these kinds of things. And one
must think before doing so that discipline won't
vanish.
hi there good brother. i guess the best way to resolve these teenage dilemmas
would be fear of the Lord. i guess that's it. because whenever you fear God, you
will also fear these kinds of things like cigarettes, liquors and the like. also
would be enough guidance and positive perspective and discipline in life to love
your body and to be the best in every way. even if there are various
environmental influences around if you have a clear perspective and a firm stand
to do what is right, nothing will go wrong.
Not me. Taking karate tends to raise your discipline and self-esteem. High
self-esteem=No drugs/alcohol. That sorta stuff is for idiots who have a poor
self image.
First, it is all about upbringing. Good parents = good kids.
I've done all the hypocritical aformentioned things that people look down upon
in society cause of a lost self-identity crisis. I figure, if you haven't
experienced the nasty, some call good, side of life, then how can you possibly
generate a non pretentious opinion?
People tend to jump the gun when others make (what appears to them) mistakes,
cause they do not understand life according others. We are all diverse and
different, but claiming that since you never or don't do so-and-so does not make
you a higher being above the rest. We all die one day anyway, why not taste a
bit of life while we are around and not confine ourselves to close minded ideas
and presumptions about our environment and/or situation.
Good parents and a good set of friends helped. For the most part, i talked to a
lot of people much older then me that have life experience and wisdom. I've done
my fair share of stupid things and learned from them. Experience ends up being
the best teacher, despite what another would warn about.
I'm not really going to answer your question, because I don't really know... I
have none myself, I'm just good at saying 'no' to everything & anything.
Doesn't matter whether it's good or not. I have to really try to say 'yes.'
Basically I'd guess at good parenting & experience. Plus a healthy dose of
fear; that's a good one.
Quote by shijirokensomething not good
to their health that they don't have to do, like drinking liquors, smoking, and
worst, taking illegal drugs and participating some pre-marital sex...
church obligation...
I'm going to take exception
here:
Liquor is not bad for your health. It is if you binge drink, & if you make a
fool of yourself or do something else stupid, you might not like it, but it is
not detrimental to your health or other well-being in & of itself, unless
you're allergic or something. It's just that if you have more than you can
handle, bad things tend to ensue... interestingly, it's been found by studying
many cultures around the world that your reaction to being drunk is largely
learnt. You could be pissed off your head, but if you've grown up surrounded by
people who act normally while drunk, you'll act normally, though your motor
reflexes & thought processes will be slowed if you had enough. This is an
actual example - I don't know what culture that was, sorry. Everyone still
thinks it's the whole 'disinhibition' thing though... well, it's been observed
that that's wrong. This is the next best explanation, & the only current one
that fits - subconciously learnt behaviour.
Another, 'illegal drugs' - illegal is not wrong. Illegal is unlawful. Against
the law. In that light, it's not a good thing, but it doesn't make it wrong.
That said, yes, generally illegal drugs are a bad idea. The only one remotely
not that I can think of is pot, & it's still stupid, it's just not as bad as
the majority of them. It's just the wording I don't like...
& pre-marital sex? It's not going to kill you. It's not even that bad,
depending on how & when & all that. Too much is ignored in simply
dividing sex into 'marital,' 'extra-marital,' & 'pre-marital' - it can be
bad in all three, & isn't necessarily bad in any, though I'd say
extra-marital is plainly stupid & cruel to your spouse, & pre-marital
might not be a good idea. This coming from a virgin, so I'm not just defending
what I do, because I don't.
Lastly, 'church obligation.' Church is not about obligation, it's about faith.
At least in Christianity. If you feel obliged to go to church, you need to
re-think why you're there. Being a Christian is about a relationship with God
& Jesus (slight redundancy there, I know), not about doing what the
priest/vicar/preacher says to do. That all means nothing in the end, all that
matters is accepting Jesus. 'Church obligation' is really missing the point,
& not only saddens me, it annoys me. If it's an obligation, don't do it!
They can't make you, & they shouldn't! That's not why they're there. They're
there to support you in your walk with Jesus. (BTW if you're not Christian, this
may not apply to your church... dunno.)
Quote by FredGregI'm not really going to
answer your question, because I don't really know... I have none myself, I'm
just good at saying 'no' to everything & anything. Doesn't matter
whether it's good or not. I have to really try to say 'yes.' Basically I'd guess
at good parenting & experience. Plus a healthy dose of fear; that's a
good one.
Quote by shijirokensomething not good
to their health that they don't have to do, like drinking liquors, smoking, and
worst, taking illegal drugs and participating some pre-marital sex...
church obligation...
I'm going to take exception here:
Liquor is not bad for your health. It is if you binge drink, & if you
make a fool of yourself or do something else stupid, you might not like it, but
it is not detrimental to your health or other well-being in & of itself,
unless you're allergic or something. It's just that if you have more than you
can handle, bad things tend to ensue... interestingly, it's been found by
studying many cultures around the world that your reaction to being drunk is
largely learnt. You could be pissed off your head, but if you've grown up
surrounded by people who act normally while drunk, you'll act normally, though
your motor reflexes & thought processes will be slowed if you had
enough. This is an actual example - I don't know what culture that was, sorry.
Everyone still thinks it's the whole 'disinhibition' thing though... well, it's
been observed that that's wrong. This is the next best explanation, &
the only current one that fits - subconciously learnt behaviour.
Another, 'illegal drugs' - illegal is not wrong. Illegal is unlawful. Against
the law. In that light, it's not a good thing, but it doesn't make it wrong.
That said, yes, generally illegal drugs are a bad idea. The only one remotely
not that I can think of is pot, & it's still stupid, it's just not as
bad as the majority of them. It's just the wording I don't like...
& pre-marital sex? It's not going to kill you. It's not even that bad,
depending on how & when & all that. Too much is ignored in
simply dividing sex into 'marital,' 'extra-marital,' & 'pre-marital' -
it can be bad in all three, & isn't necessarily bad in any, though I'd
say extra-marital is plainly stupid & cruel to your spouse, &
pre-marital might not be a good idea. This coming from a virgin, so I'm not just
defending what I do, because I don't.
Lastly, 'church obligation.' Church is not about obligation, it's about faith.
At least in Christianity. If you feel obliged to go to church, you need to
re-think why you're there. Being a Christian is about a relationship with God
& Jesus (slight redundancy there, I know), not about doing what the
priest/vicar/preacher says to do. That all means nothing in the end, all that
matters is accepting Jesus. 'Church obligation' is really missing the point,
& not only saddens me, it annoys me. If it's an obligation, don't do it!
They can't make you, & they shouldn't! That's not why they're there.
They're there to support you in your walk with Jesus. (BTW if you're not
Christian, this may not apply to your church...
dunno.)
first of all, liquors, are not bad at all if it is occasionally... but idf you
make it like your water, your abusing yourself, right?
illegal drugs, your right that it is just illegal because of laws, but the
question is, why does it is made to be illegal? it is because people tend to
abuse and depend on drugs that's why it is illegal, right? laws will not make it
illegal if it is not being overused... ex. there is a form of illegal drug that
is used for painkiller, right? so, some country used it for legal purposes but
with caution... but some country will make it illegal since patient might be
dependent on that drugs, also, there are some drugs that has the same purpose
but it has the less effect and patients might not tend to be dependent on
that...
church obligation, first of all, every christian has a church obligation... ex.
going to church for Worship and praying, it is an obligation, so, it depends on
the erson if they want to do those obligation, but it is an obligation.... I'll
give you one more ex. a student is oblige to go to school but if he doesn't want
to go to school(even if he doesn't go to school because of its social status),
he may not go to school, right? but the teacher will mark him absent... LOL
every people have an obligation to God, because God is our creator... it is just
that some people don't realize that they have obligation....*sigh*
premarital sex, ok, I hate to talk about sex...*sigh*
I know that some norms accepts premarital sex, but the point here is that, it is
not ethical for a person to do this stuff if he is not married, right? because
some guys tend to cheat on the girl just to get their earthly desire... and the
problem here is that, it might end up making a baby, worst, they will abort the
baby because they don't want their parents to know this thing or they can't
raised the baby because they are still student or they don't have stable
income...*sigh*
definately find something that is positive and focus on that instead of whatever
it is you're worried about getting mixed up with. I would recommend something
like sports or even better martial arts. I've studied for years and I've found
it's a great way to build up willpower, self esteem, good habits, and all sorts
of other stuff. Give it a shot!
Quote by shijirokenfirst of all,
liquors, are not bad at all if it is occasionally... but idf you make it like
your water, your abusing yourself, right?
illegal drugs, your right that it is just illegal because of laws, but the
question is, why does it is made to be illegal? it is because people tend to
abuse and depend on drugs that's why it is illegal, right? laws will not make it
illegal if it is not being overused... ex. there is a form of illegal drug that
is used for painkiller, right? so, some country used it for legal purposes but
with caution... but some country will make it illegal since patient might be
dependent on that drugs, also, there are some drugs that has the same purpose
but it has the less effect and patients might not tend to be dependent on
that...
church obligation, first of all, every christian has a church obligation... ex.
going to church for Worship and praying, it is an obligation, so, it depends on
the erson if they want to do those obligation, but it is an obligation.... I'll
give you one more ex. a student is oblige to go to school but if he doesn't want
to go to school(even if he doesn't go to school because of its social status),
he may not go to school, right? but the teacher will mark him absent... LOL
every people have an obligation to God, because God is our creator... it is just
that some people don't realize that they have obligation....*sigh*
premarital sex, ok, I hate to talk about sex...*sigh*
I know that some norms accepts premarital sex, but the point here is that, it is
not ethical for a person to do this stuff if he is not married, right? because
some guys tend to cheat on the girl just to get their earthly desire... and the
problem here is that, it might end up making a baby, worst, they will abort the
baby because they don't want their parents to know this thing or they can't
raised the baby because they are still student or they don't have stable
income...*sigh*
Sorry, I would have responded sooner, but I
was away from MT for a few days.
About liquor, right you are, it's excess which is bad. There are some people in
Russia who make it their water, but those are the sort of people who don't get
affected much. If a normal person did it, well... let's just say I agree with
you then.
The bit about illegal drugs wasn't really aimed at the drugs, it was the word
'illegal' - I firmly belive that 'legal' is not 'right,' & 'illegal' is not
'wrong.' If you think about it, I'm sure you can come up with plenty of
examples.
Church obligation... well, now I see what you mean, I do agree. Again it's the
context - I took it as meaning 'do what the Church says,' as in the 'leaders.'
Which is wrong... do what Jesus says, not what the Church or even the Bible
says. Ultimately, the Bible is good for Remur words, & is otherwise
unreliable (sorry I can't remember how to spell 'remur'). Not totally, just that
you can't be 100% sure of it. Too many translations, copyings, editings, etc.,
even of the original. But that's getting off track, what you said is basically
right, we do have an obligation to worship Jesus.
Now the tricky one: pre-marital sex. I don't much like talking about sex either,
but I don't believe there's anything inherently wrong with it. Jesus said two
core things, to follow him & to love one another. Only the first one really matters. But loving one another involves
not hurting one another, & pre-marital sex can hurt people. Emotionally I
mean. But that isn't a property of pre-marital sex, it's present within marriage
as well, & is due to lots of things. But basically a crappy marriage is just
as bad as a crappy de-facto relationship, if not worse because you might get
shunned or whatever if you get a divorce, or even be unable to get one. Let me
lay out to you a theory I have OK? Whether you agree or not - that's your choice
of course. Once, marriage was basically arranged for you, & you were married
when you were mature enough. Now, you marry more freely, but usually after
you're mature enough. You are not mature enough if you're 14, pretty simply,
& you'll only hurt yourself, especially if you're a girl, because girls tend
to be more emotional about such stuff. Get what I mean? It's all about whether
you get hurt &/or hurt someone else. It's just that with such an intimate
thing, there's much more potential for that to happen than in most other
situations. OK, I feel like a total git for expressing this... I find it
doubtful you'll agree, but you'll have at least read it & hopefully
understood what I'm getting at. I really detest talking about this
subject.
Actually, I'm not going to alter what I wrote above, but just before submitting
this post I read yours again... it seems you're coming from the point of view
that pre-marital sex means really young. In that case I agree, it's stupid &
even more likely to harm someone emotionally. Also you don't take account of
contraception, etc. Most of all, I don't agree that it's not ethical. Some
ethical things are simply part of us, given from God & lost only in a few
screwed-up individuals. Others are cultural. The problem so many people have
with sex is cultural. Cultural ethics are instilled as you grow, & vary from
person to person. It may be unethical to you, but it isn't to many people, &
isn't inherently so. Again, it's just that it can hurt, & in some cultures
& with some attitude it will hurt more than in/with some others.
All just my opinion, but I hope you see where I'm coming from.
Why are they so undisciplined? Because society refuses to make them take
responsibility for their own actions, and even forbids it in many cases. In
most of the US (if not all of it) you cannot have a legit job until you are 16,
for example. How, pray tell, does this teach them to be responsible, or even to
be self-sufficient?
Yeah dude, it's partly the lack of responsibility, but also the attitude that
many parents have that the government will raise their kids for them. Not only
do they know no responsibility, they know no discipline. I'm not saying go back
to before the '50s, but fobbing your job as a parent off on your government is
sure to doom them. Economies of scale work in goods & services, but not in
society. Kids need attention, to stop them getting messed up in any of a myriad
of ways.
Quote by shijirokenalmost all of the
teenager today losses their discipline and they tend to do something not good to
their health that they don't have to do, like drinking liquors, smoking, and
worst, taking illegal drugs and participating some pre-marital
sex...
you're right, most teenagers do that...
To keep myself from some bad habits and to avoid these things, I concentrate in
my work and to my drawings
i don't smoke & drink liquior!!! I hate cigarettes!!! XO
Choosing the right friend will also help... bad friends... bad influence
Quote by shijirokenalmost all of the
teenager today losses their discipline and they tend to do something not good to
their health that they don't have to do, like drinking liquors, smoking, and
worst, taking illegal drugs and participating some pre-marital
sex...
you're right, most teenagers do that...
To keep myself from some bad habits and to avoid these things, I concentrate in
my work and to my drawings
i don't smoke & drink liquior!!! I hate cigarettes!!! XO
Choosing the right friend will also help... bad friends... bad
influence
how would you know that you have the right friend? *sigh*
almost all of the teenager today losses their discipline and they tend to do something not good to their health that they don't have to do, like drinking liquors, smoking, and worst, taking illegal drugs and participating some pre-marital sex...
so, since almost all of the member herein MT are teenagers, and younger...
What do you think would be the best way for teenagers to have discipline in their self and have the proper concntration for their studies, Families and church obligation...
*adults and parents are the best adviser here...*
for me, to keep myself from some bad habits and bad situation, I concentrate on my studies and i do my on regulations and I set my focus of mind on not doing the things above and other bad things that may cause others and even my own life into suferings and pain... also, I ask for God's Help and guidance fr me to keep safe and away from bad influences...
I don't have a clue... even if I keep out of all these things.
Just the way I was raised (by my parents and also school) I guess... Maybe explaining the reasons is a good solution but some really want to do forbidden things and don't think about the future (why care about a cancer if smoking is relaxing ?)... even if by example it's hard to say they're clever by following a group.
hehehe, some people are so hard headed and even they know the consequences they will still do those forbidden things just for the sake of their egoistic mind and body...
about raising by parents, eventhough that I was not raised by my parents with proper and enough care, love and attention...like the quote "bread alone cannot feed a child" if a child will just realized by him/herself (just like what I did) while they are young and set their mind on what is good and bad... they can manage to have discipline for theirselves...right?
sometimes, you have to learn on your own, 'coz learning on your own is much better if someone will teach you this and that.....
reading books(like bible) and calling for God's Help and guidance will really help a person..right?
Hei !!! I have my self discipline !!! Sometimes I also not notice it in myself but my friend told me then I knew it . so I think it is funny !!!
I agree.
I agree with you. ^^
i think as teenagers we need to focus in our studies because it's important to us.
I agree. I don't understand how people can do those things to themselves and then get themselves into a deeper, more serious problem.
Personally, I'd resort with the Internet to get away from these bad situations.... As for my studies, I'd probably want to sustain my grades since that's how I was raised - to get good marks... As for family, I'm not really that tight with my family members, except my aunt and my brother, which is probably because of how I was raised again. I've spent the most time with them during my childhood, so I can depend on them for help and guidance. Other than having previous experiences, I think doing family outings are a good way to get away from these bad situations. The best way for a teenager or someone younger to learn to self-discipline themselves is probably best through rewards - if you do something good, reward yourself, or if the child is very young, the parent/guardian can do this.
Welll...I may be the weird one, but quite honestly those are the LAST things that should be focused on. Its the whole 'obligation' thing..a large part of teenage mentality is 'I dont wanna do what Im told'. Dont make it an obligation. Find a way to make them WANT to do it.
Me, I actually enjoyed studying..not school, it was far too simple; stuff like nuclear physics, astronomy, genetics, advanced chemistry, calculus..that was my speed. As for family...I used to be, but more and more its becoming both a chore and a nuisance. I want to do what *I* want, to live MY life, not cater to someone else. And Im not a religious person, I havent even stepped into a church since age 5, so Im not free to comment exactly. But if the teen in question dosent want to go, they wont or will simply give the absolute minimum to get by. Its human nature; dont wanna do it but forced to, you get crap.
Decipline is something to get you very far at something you hate. ^_^
The only dicipline I do is church.
you're right, we must not forced those teenager to do this and that if they don't want to do that, they must like the stuff they want to do.... but apparently, sometimes, they do some bad things which is not a good thing to, eventhough they want to do this.... that's why there is natural law and norms in a society also there is the bible and the rules and regulations in a country, right? so, sometimes, not forcing but advising those teenagers by their parents/Guardians...some teenagers are lucky to have parents that will guide them but they just ignored all those care and do the stuff they want... they don't even consider the advises.. unlike me, nothing...
we are just giving some advises here on how to keep our discipline if we have some, so that if a person will visit this forum, they will have some choices on what things they will do just to forget those vices.. hehe
Discipline...
I don't smoke! I don't drink liquor (well, occasionally)! I don't gamble!
It's a matter of how you handle yourself with these kinds of things. And one must think before doing so that discipline won't vanish.
yup, it's just all about mind over matter.. hehe
hi there good brother. i guess the best way to resolve these teenage dilemmas would be fear of the Lord. i guess that's it. because whenever you fear God, you will also fear these kinds of things like cigarettes, liquors and the like. also would be enough guidance and positive perspective and discipline in life to love your body and to be the best in every way. even if there are various environmental influences around if you have a clear perspective and a firm stand to do what is right, nothing will go wrong.
Not me. Taking karate tends to raise your discipline and self-esteem. High self-esteem=No drugs/alcohol. That sorta stuff is for idiots who have a poor self image.
First, it is all about upbringing. Good parents = good kids.
I've done all the hypocritical aformentioned things that people look down upon in society cause of a lost self-identity crisis. I figure, if you haven't experienced the nasty, some call good, side of life, then how can you possibly generate a non pretentious opinion?
People tend to jump the gun when others make (what appears to them) mistakes, cause they do not understand life according others. We are all diverse and different, but claiming that since you never or don't do so-and-so does not make you a higher being above the rest. We all die one day anyway, why not taste a bit of life while we are around and not confine ourselves to close minded ideas and presumptions about our environment and/or situation.
Good parents and a good set of friends helped. For the most part, i talked to a lot of people much older then me that have life experience and wisdom. I've done my fair share of stupid things and learned from them. Experience ends up being the best teacher, despite what another would warn about.
I'm not really going to answer your question, because I don't really know... I have none myself, I'm just good at saying 'no' to everything & anything. Doesn't matter whether it's good or not. I have to really try to say 'yes.' Basically I'd guess at good parenting & experience. Plus a healthy dose of fear; that's a good one.
I'm going to take exception here:
Liquor is not bad for your health. It is if you binge drink, & if you make a fool of yourself or do something else stupid, you might not like it, but it is not detrimental to your health or other well-being in & of itself, unless you're allergic or something. It's just that if you have more than you can handle, bad things tend to ensue... interestingly, it's been found by studying many cultures around the world that your reaction to being drunk is largely learnt. You could be pissed off your head, but if you've grown up surrounded by people who act normally while drunk, you'll act normally, though your motor reflexes & thought processes will be slowed if you had enough. This is an actual example - I don't know what culture that was, sorry. Everyone still thinks it's the whole 'disinhibition' thing though... well, it's been observed that that's wrong. This is the next best explanation, & the only current one that fits - subconciously learnt behaviour.
Another, 'illegal drugs' - illegal is not wrong. Illegal is unlawful. Against the law. In that light, it's not a good thing, but it doesn't make it wrong. That said, yes, generally illegal drugs are a bad idea. The only one remotely not that I can think of is pot, & it's still stupid, it's just not as bad as the majority of them. It's just the wording I don't like...
& pre-marital sex? It's not going to kill you. It's not even that bad, depending on how & when & all that. Too much is ignored in simply dividing sex into 'marital,' 'extra-marital,' & 'pre-marital' - it can be bad in all three, & isn't necessarily bad in any, though I'd say extra-marital is plainly stupid & cruel to your spouse, & pre-marital might not be a good idea. This coming from a virgin, so I'm not just defending what I do, because I don't.
Lastly, 'church obligation.' Church is not about obligation, it's about faith. At least in Christianity. If you feel obliged to go to church, you need to re-think why you're there. Being a Christian is about a relationship with God & Jesus (slight redundancy there, I know), not about doing what the priest/vicar/preacher says to do. That all means nothing in the end, all that matters is accepting Jesus. 'Church obligation' is really missing the point, & not only saddens me, it annoys me. If it's an obligation, don't do it! They can't make you, & they shouldn't! That's not why they're there. They're there to support you in your walk with Jesus. (BTW if you're not Christian, this may not apply to your church... dunno.)
first of all, liquors, are not bad at all if it is occasionally... but idf you make it like your water, your abusing yourself, right?
illegal drugs, your right that it is just illegal because of laws, but the question is, why does it is made to be illegal? it is because people tend to abuse and depend on drugs that's why it is illegal, right? laws will not make it illegal if it is not being overused... ex. there is a form of illegal drug that is used for painkiller, right? so, some country used it for legal purposes but with caution... but some country will make it illegal since patient might be dependent on that drugs, also, there are some drugs that has the same purpose but it has the less effect and patients might not tend to be dependent on that...
church obligation, first of all, every christian has a church obligation... ex. going to church for Worship and praying, it is an obligation, so, it depends on the erson if they want to do those obligation, but it is an obligation.... I'll give you one more ex. a student is oblige to go to school but if he doesn't want to go to school(even if he doesn't go to school because of its social status), he may not go to school, right? but the teacher will mark him absent... LOL
every people have an obligation to God, because God is our creator... it is just that some people don't realize that they have obligation....*sigh*
premarital sex, ok, I hate to talk about sex...*sigh*
I know that some norms accepts premarital sex, but the point here is that, it is not ethical for a person to do this stuff if he is not married, right? because some guys tend to cheat on the girl just to get their earthly desire... and the problem here is that, it might end up making a baby, worst, they will abort the baby because they don't want their parents to know this thing or they can't raised the baby because they are still student or they don't have stable income...*sigh*
definately find something that is positive and focus on that instead of whatever it is you're worried about getting mixed up with. I would recommend something like sports or even better martial arts. I've studied for years and I've found it's a great way to build up willpower, self esteem, good habits, and all sorts of other stuff. Give it a shot!
Sorry, I would have responded sooner, but I was away from MT for a few days.
About liquor, right you are, it's excess which is bad. There are some people in Russia who make it their water, but those are the sort of people who don't get affected much. If a normal person did it, well... let's just say I agree with you then.
The bit about illegal drugs wasn't really aimed at the drugs, it was the word 'illegal' - I firmly belive that 'legal' is not 'right,' & 'illegal' is not 'wrong.' If you think about it, I'm sure you can come up with plenty of examples.
Church obligation... well, now I see what you mean, I do agree. Again it's the context - I took it as meaning 'do what the Church says,' as in the 'leaders.' Which is wrong... do what Jesus says, not what the Church or even the Bible says. Ultimately, the Bible is good for Remur words, & is otherwise unreliable (sorry I can't remember how to spell 'remur'). Not totally, just that you can't be 100% sure of it. Too many translations, copyings, editings, etc., even of the original. But that's getting off track, what you said is basically right, we do have an obligation to worship Jesus.
Now the tricky one: pre-marital sex. I don't much like talking about sex either, but I don't believe there's anything inherently wrong with it. Jesus said two core things, to follow him & to love one another. Only the first one really matters. But loving one another involves not hurting one another, & pre-marital sex can hurt people. Emotionally I mean. But that isn't a property of pre-marital sex, it's present within marriage as well, & is due to lots of things. But basically a crappy marriage is just as bad as a crappy de-facto relationship, if not worse because you might get shunned or whatever if you get a divorce, or even be unable to get one. Let me lay out to you a theory I have OK? Whether you agree or not - that's your choice of course. Once, marriage was basically arranged for you, & you were married when you were mature enough. Now, you marry more freely, but usually after you're mature enough. You are not mature enough if you're 14, pretty simply, & you'll only hurt yourself, especially if you're a girl, because girls tend to be more emotional about such stuff. Get what I mean? It's all about whether you get hurt &/or hurt someone else. It's just that with such an intimate thing, there's much more potential for that to happen than in most other situations. OK, I feel like a total git for expressing this... I find it doubtful you'll agree, but you'll have at least read it & hopefully understood what I'm getting at. I really detest talking about this subject.
Actually, I'm not going to alter what I wrote above, but just before submitting this post I read yours again... it seems you're coming from the point of view that pre-marital sex means really young. In that case I agree, it's stupid & even more likely to harm someone emotionally. Also you don't take account of contraception, etc. Most of all, I don't agree that it's not ethical. Some ethical things are simply part of us, given from God & lost only in a few screwed-up individuals. Others are cultural. The problem so many people have with sex is cultural. Cultural ethics are instilled as you grow, & vary from person to person. It may be unethical to you, but it isn't to many people, & isn't inherently so. Again, it's just that it can hurt, & in some cultures & with some attitude it will hurt more than in/with some others.
All just my opinion, but I hope you see where I'm coming from.
Why are they so undisciplined? Because society refuses to make them take responsibility for their own actions, and even forbids it in many cases. In most of the US (if not all of it) you cannot have a legit job until you are 16, for example. How, pray tell, does this teach them to be responsible, or even to be self-sufficient?
Yeah dude, it's partly the lack of responsibility, but also the attitude that many parents have that the government will raise their kids for them. Not only do they know no responsibility, they know no discipline. I'm not saying go back to before the '50s, but fobbing your job as a parent off on your government is sure to doom them. Economies of scale work in goods & services, but not in society. Kids need attention, to stop them getting messed up in any of a myriad of ways.
you're right, most teenagers do that...
To keep myself from some bad habits and to avoid these things, I concentrate in my work and to my drawings
i don't smoke & drink liquior!!! I hate cigarettes!!! XO
Choosing the right friend will also help... bad friends... bad influence
how would you know that you have the right friend? *sigh*