Okay as almina said on the first page, i believe that no members (except
leechers) might ever exceed the 30 dl / day.
So i believe this new free dl system is kinda making the credit system
completely useless.... so well the purpose of the credit system (making leechers
go away) is wasted with this update ^_^. maybe reducing it to 10 free downloads
would be good. otherwise all members will soon have credits they'll never use (i
mean we do not create new groups all the time, or submit that much walls / scans
/ doujins a day).
Quote by eunasahngyou know... then what
do we use our credits for?
forum threads, scan submissions don't cost credits really so now we've come to
this problem where we don't have that many things we can use the credits
for.
but if we decreased it now, people are sure to complain. now that's another
problem. but when you think about it, the only people who complain are those who
aren't active enough on MT and lack credits aren't they? so it's their problem
and their fault really.
You (and others complaining) need to be patient. MT3 is still in its infancy,
and Sheqel and the mods are very likely brainstorming new and fun ways for you
to spend your credits. Don't expect to get everything you want all at
once.
Now, your notion that only leechers complain is a grossly inaccurate assumption.
I have seen innumerable dissatisfied posts concerning the original credit system
made by members who have been quite outspoken and have contributed greatly to
MT.
Lastly, 30 is not a large number. If someone enjoys giving fair and helpful
critiques on walls, as in actually viewing and studying the walls, this number
is ideal. Also, the scan thumbnails can be very misleading, and give no hint as
to the scan's actual quality. I have, more than several times, wasted credits
downloading a scan that looked good from the thumbnail, but was actually very
poor quality, or far too grainy to easily use. This is especially true of more
recent scans, before the gallery directors have time to weed them out. Not to
mention if you have a slow connection and need to refresh several times to
complete a single download.
The mods did not choose this number arbitrarily, I am sure a lot of thought and
discussion went into their decision. If you are truly concerned about continued
bandwidth issues, donate. The vast majority of people do not even bother
critiquing walls, and only download maybe 5 scans a day, so your concerns of
abuse are unfounded. I think this new free download quota is an inspired idea.
You should thank Sheqel for giving us MT at all, and for trusting us with this
number.
I like this new feature but 30 is a little too much and won't drive the leechers
away. It beats the purpose of getting them to contribute. That's my view anyway.
Hmmm. I certainly think 30 is a lot. Nowadays I don't even really get more than
7 sub notifs a day (that's on a busy day) ... usually I get maybe 3. I don't
download much at all though- only what I think is interesting - and what's more
I was very willing to pay off my credits- I was actually trying to get rid of
them and out pops 30 free downloads. I really think it's a bit too much. For me,
30 downloads a week is really quite plentiful. But then again I'm too busy doing
other things like catching up on groups and replying messages more than really
checking out gallery items. Lol, I think that 10 per day might be more ideal,
really. It's making me want to leech like mad, this 30 - but then again, even if
you made it 10 free downloads a day, I would be more than willing to pay for
anything after that. Really, I have nothing to spend my credits on
Also- I have a feeling that some will scope out the scans in the galleries (ie.
larger items) so even if they pay afterwards with credits (the smaller items)
they wouldn't need to lose as much... but yeah. 30 is a bit too much... that's
just how I feel though.
this new system looks quite confusing but its not i guess
but it mainly gives for leechers to dl wallpaper and still they won't comment a
thing about the wallpaper that the members have make. It hurts the active
wallpapers member sometimes if none of them comment on thier artwork. Mainly
this system has given advantage to leechers whom don't comment on peoples
artwork while grabbing for free to be active again. i agree with those who agree
that 30 is a lot. Mainly scans will be the target since the level 10 thingy is
gone as well. Thats all i'm going to say, in the end its still up to the
moderators on how they want MT3 to work...
this is a fantasic idea(i'm not sure if i posted already) 30 free downloads is a
good number. i think this will help a lot of people who really can't do much.
anyway thank you for this!
I'd gone inactive after the MT3/credit system was imposed. This modification is
a welcome change, and if it entices my friends into returning, then i'll be
persuaded to become active once again. Well done.
I appreciate the gesture and softening of the credit based downloading system.
I've read some complaints about how the credit system was unfair to newer
members and how they couldn't dig themselves out of a downloading hole. I'm glad
to see the administration of MT3 listened to the membership.
In addition, I think we can all give a round of applause to everyone who still
uploaded scans, walls, and art, even though it was costing them credits to do
so. You people are the best, and help to keep this community fresh.
But... The one issue remaining is how loosely this system will be supported by
Minitokyo. It's a great advantage to have 30 free downloads per day (sort of),
but we still need to increase our credit score by posting in the forums. I
really like the method of talking to one another to gain credit. Even though
many posts are a little too simplistic, we are still talking. And that's
important.
Personally I think this was an awesome idea, as the more people download
walls/scans, the more they get commented on.
There is the potential for leeching to go up, particularly when you get into
scans approaching 2 megs, it could hurt the bandwidth. I think maybe a split
system would help nullify abuse of the system, such as: people get 25 free
wallpapers and 5 scans, or large scans could cost 2 or 3 download credits, that
sort of thing. And if they're still worried about credits, they could simply
comment on everything they download, which would give them quite a bit of
credit, and promote feedback.
I also like the recharge-per-day feature, it spreads out the downloads to
benefit people that visit every day for reasonable amounts of time, instead of
folks going on mass download-binges. Just my opinion
Quote by AngelKateLooking at this
again, 30 does seem to be a bit too much. On average I download maybe 5-10
things per day, and there are many days where I don't download anything at all.
Maybe dropping it down to about 15 would be better. But kudos to the admins for
implementing this system. It will help out members who don't wall or have
limited ways to contribute greatly.
agreed. too much and encouraging leechers.
i truly suggest an intense change to 10 per 24 hours or even longer.
don;t wanna see the system go down again and wait another year for
MT4...
In addition, I think we can all give a round of applause to everyone who still
uploaded scans, walls, and art, even though it was costing them credits to do
so. You people are the best, and help to keep this community fresh.
But... The one issue remaining is how loosely this system will be supported by
Minitokyo. It's a great advantage to have 30 free downloads per day (sort of),
but we still need to increase our credit score by posting in the forums. I
really like the method of talking to one another to gain credit. Even though
many posts are a little too simplistic, we are still talking. And that's
important.
I agree on that as well...but as said more than once, this will encorage
leechers. like it or not, what is more, now people would somewhat just get up
and dowload off 30's worth and then wait...then they go again.
Now you get chost members who just download 24/7 waiting for their
replenishments.
But again, they still will contribute , but i doubt it can be anything good. My
2 cents
Quote by chaosmongoosethis is a
fantasic idea(i'm not sure if i posted already) 30 free downloads is a good
number. i think this will help a lot of people who really can't do much. anyway
thank you for this!
I can't do much--I don't know how to make wallpapers and my scans suck--but I
still have a fairly high credit line. You don't have to be a ble to do alot; I
just most a lot.
Quote by Sheqelsince you are the first to
ask, I will reply on what it is (NOT on why it is there).
the free download quota is the number of gallery items you can download without
having to pay credits. after you have exceeded that number in 24 hours, you will
need to pay credits in order to download further. So it will slowly replenish in
24 hours.
Wow! 30 = generous. I would have been reasonably happy with 7-ish. Thanks.
...And thank you for the information!
but well, uploading stuff still costs credits, doesn't it? so the credit system
is not useless at all. it prevents from the spams we have had earlier when
people were uploading everything they found with just the purpose of getting
higher levels.
I like this. Quite a solid idea. Really cool. Thanks a bunch.
yeah this is a good idea. lets people get the wallpapers they need but keeps out any serious leeching basterds.
thumbs up
thanks a lot. this is a great feature. i think it will make credit-leeching less attractive.
Okay as almina said on the first page, i believe that no members (except leechers) might ever exceed the 30 dl / day.
So i believe this new free dl system is kinda making the credit system completely useless.... so well the purpose of the credit system (making leechers go away) is wasted with this update ^_^. maybe reducing it to 10 free downloads would be good. otherwise all members will soon have credits they'll never use (i mean we do not create new groups all the time, or submit that much walls / scans / doujins a day).
You (and others complaining) need to be patient. MT3 is still in its infancy, and Sheqel and the mods are very likely brainstorming new and fun ways for you to spend your credits. Don't expect to get everything you want all at once.
Now, your notion that only leechers complain is a grossly inaccurate assumption. I have seen innumerable dissatisfied posts concerning the original credit system made by members who have been quite outspoken and have contributed greatly to MT.
Lastly, 30 is not a large number. If someone enjoys giving fair and helpful critiques on walls, as in actually viewing and studying the walls, this number is ideal. Also, the scan thumbnails can be very misleading, and give no hint as to the scan's actual quality. I have, more than several times, wasted credits downloading a scan that looked good from the thumbnail, but was actually very poor quality, or far too grainy to easily use. This is especially true of more recent scans, before the gallery directors have time to weed them out. Not to mention if you have a slow connection and need to refresh several times to complete a single download.
The mods did not choose this number arbitrarily, I am sure a lot of thought and discussion went into their decision. If you are truly concerned about continued bandwidth issues, donate. The vast majority of people do not even bother critiquing walls, and only download maybe 5 scans a day, so your concerns of abuse are unfounded. I think this new free download quota is an inspired idea. You should thank Sheqel for giving us MT at all, and for trusting us with this number.
Cool.
I like this new feature but 30 is a little too much and won't drive the leechers away. It beats the purpose of getting them to contribute. That's my view anyway.
lol this is nice since i am new here i learn alot thx alot
Hmmm. I certainly think 30 is a lot. Nowadays I don't even really get more than 7 sub notifs a day (that's on a busy day) ... usually I get maybe 3. I don't download much at all though- only what I think is interesting - and what's more I was very willing to pay off my credits- I was actually trying to get rid of them and out pops 30 free downloads. I really think it's a bit too much. For me, 30 downloads a week is really quite plentiful. But then again I'm too busy doing other things like catching up on groups and replying messages more than really checking out gallery items. Lol, I think that 10 per day might be more ideal, really. It's making me want to leech like mad, this 30 - but then again, even if you made it 10 free downloads a day, I would be more than willing to pay for anything after that. Really, I have nothing to spend my credits on
Also- I have a feeling that some will scope out the scans in the galleries (ie. larger items) so even if they pay afterwards with credits (the smaller items) they wouldn't need to lose as much... but yeah. 30 is a bit too much... that's just how I feel though.
cool! a genius whoever thought of this idea... ^_^
Well actually I don't really need free download quota since I've got plenty of credit but it's a good idea
this new system looks quite confusing but its not i guess
but it mainly gives for leechers to dl wallpaper and still they won't comment a thing about the wallpaper that the members have make. It hurts the active wallpapers member sometimes if none of them comment on thier artwork. Mainly this system has given advantage to leechers whom don't comment on peoples artwork while grabbing for free to be active again. i agree with those who agree that 30 is a lot. Mainly scans will be the target since the level 10 thingy is gone as well. Thats all i'm going to say, in the end its still up to the moderators on how they want MT3 to work...
30 free downloads seems a bit excessive. It's a pretty good idea, but I think it should be halved or even thirded.
See, now that there's free downloads, there won't be as much of a need to participate in the community.
this is a fantasic idea(i'm not sure if i posted already) 30 free downloads is a good number. i think this will help a lot of people who really can't do much. anyway thank you for this!
I'd gone inactive after the MT3/credit system was imposed. This modification is a welcome change, and if it entices my friends into returning, then i'll be persuaded to become active once again. Well done.
So we can download that amount free in one day? .....I had like...28 when it started then I used em' up till 21 then they got back up to 27
Can anyone please tell what this download free quota is please. l'm dying to know.
I appreciate the gesture and softening of the credit based downloading system. I've read some complaints about how the credit system was unfair to newer members and how they couldn't dig themselves out of a downloading hole. I'm glad to see the administration of MT3 listened to the membership.
In addition, I think we can all give a round of applause to everyone who still uploaded scans, walls, and art, even though it was costing them credits to do so. You people are the best, and help to keep this community fresh.
But... The one issue remaining is how loosely this system will be supported by Minitokyo. It's a great advantage to have 30 free downloads per day (sort of), but we still need to increase our credit score by posting in the forums. I really like the method of talking to one another to gain credit. Even though many posts are a little too simplistic, we are still talking. And that's important.
Personally I think this was an awesome idea, as the more people download walls/scans, the more they get commented on.
There is the potential for leeching to go up, particularly when you get into scans approaching 2 megs, it could hurt the bandwidth. I think maybe a split system would help nullify abuse of the system, such as: people get 25 free wallpapers and 5 scans, or large scans could cost 2 or 3 download credits, that sort of thing. And if they're still worried about credits, they could simply comment on everything they download, which would give them quite a bit of credit, and promote feedback.
I also like the recharge-per-day feature, it spreads out the downloads to benefit people that visit every day for reasonable amounts of time, instead of folks going on mass download-binges. Just my opinion
agreed. too much and encouraging leechers.
i truly suggest an intense change to 10 per 24 hours or even longer.
don;t wanna see the system go down again and wait another year for MT4...
merged: 11-27-2005 ~ 10:49am
I agree on that as well...but as said more than once, this will encorage leechers. like it or not, what is more, now people would somewhat just get up and dowload off 30's worth and then wait...then they go again.
Now you get chost members who just download 24/7 waiting for their replenishments.
But again, they still will contribute , but i doubt it can be anything good. My 2 cents
I can't do much--I don't know how to make wallpapers and my scans suck--but I still have a fairly high credit line. You don't have to be a ble to do alot; I just most a lot.
Wow! 30 = generous. I would have been reasonably happy with 7-ish. Thanks. ...And thank you for the information!
but well, uploading stuff still costs credits, doesn't it? so the credit system is not useless at all. it prevents from the spams we have had earlier when people were uploading everything they found with just the purpose of getting higher levels.