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Why are gays and lesbians horribly harassed, abused and mistreated in today's
society? And how does Religion look upon the Gay and Lesbian community respond
to Religion in kind? This thread is not here to insult the gay or lesbian
community or the Religious community in any way, or to make any nagative waves
of any kind, only to generate some honest , civilized disscussion on this issue.
I'm currently reading The Bible, and I disagree with The Old Testament in what
it says about homosexuality. I'm the only one in my family who thinks that love
between guys/girls is just natural.
(maybe that also explains why I am a shounen-ai fan ^_^)
Homosexuality is o.k as long as the people/especially the boys
don´t act so wierd... I know many Lesbians and in my opinion you
can better talk to them as if you talk with "normal" girls!^^ Maybe
girls feel the same but just the way around!^^
As long as lesbians respect the fact that I'm straight, I have no problem with
homosexuality. A lot of good friends of mine are gay, lesbian or bi. Sexuality
doesn't make them any less human than I am.
Homosexuality is a natural (occurs naturally, ie: people are born that way.),
though it would not be considered normal. Normal requires that over 50% of the
population be that way.
Anyway. I believe, your preference is your own, you don't choose your sexuall
path. So, as long as I'm not hit on, by any gay men, I'm okay.
Think about it... if everyone on the planet were breeders, then the world would
be even more over-populated then it already is.
I myself am bisexual, and you can say I was just born that way but it also has
to do with my own personal views on the relationships between both men and women
and so on and so forth. Firstly, a relationship with a person is based on
emotional feelings, their personality traits, common interests, heh, I think you
get the idea. Secondly, the concept of putting people in social, sexual,
political, or religious categories never even really occurs to me, each person
is a unique individual. Thirdly, the line between love and lust are vast, a very
sad fact that the majority (heh, only said it because it was mentioned like 3
times in previous posts) of people seem to miss for some reason or another.
Fourth . .ly? ^_^ Each body has its own beauty and each person their own
strengths and weaknesses so, why should their sexual preference or the fact that
they may be the same sex as you yourself are matter in the long run if you are
either physically attracted to them or emotionally?
*Blinks* . . . And 50% of the population does not make something normal. Being
normal is some weird idea that many individuals either do their best to become
or try as they might go against it. *Shrugs* But hey, what ever floats your boat
and makes you feel better. . . but trying to rate anything as normal can only
lead to stuffing yourself in a box of what you think or dont think according to
your own take on social norms. . . And for the guys who are all paranoid that
some guy is going to hit on you, damn get a grip, if your not gay or if they
arent a good friend joking with you, you are being overly judgmental and
PARANOID. . . also,
you�re probably way to
full of your self and . . I could go on but it is hard to sound serious when I
am laughing my ass off ^_^
I believe it's wrong. Just like other sins - adultery, pediphilia, beastiality,
sex outside of marriage, etc. - God hates it. He doesn't hate the ones who
commit the sins but He hates the sin. And movies like Brokeback are only an
attempt to make the perverse palatible.
What if Hollywood put out a movie that did a masterful job of making us feel the
pain of a female school teacher who had fallen in love with her 15 year old
student? It really made us feel that we shouldn't criticize so much. That they
truly love each other and we should accept them being together.
She's a pediphile. But, I'm sure many would support the movie.
"Groundbreaking!" "Dares us to understand true love!" Can't
you see the reviews?
I think the Christian church really made a mistake when they took such a firm,
shunning stance on homosexuality. I have seen quite a few Christian homosexuals
I know turn away from the Church, because even though they believed in the
teachings, they just couldn't stand that they were never allowed to be
themselves. Too many Christians act as if homosexuality is something you
"cure" someone of, like it's some disease. In reality, asking a
homosexual person to change thier preference is just as rediculous as asking a
straight person to change thiers -- it just doesn't make sense and it will never
work.
I think it should be left to the persons involved. It's all about choosing a
path in life. If it's different than from what people expect, so be it. Get with
the times and deal.
I do not see anything wrong with homosexuality. Just because someone may be gay
doesn't make them any less of a decent individual and no deserves to be harassed
for thier choice of partners
it's sin and it's not allowed, in any religion for that matter...
mine says its forbidden.. but i dont really against them..
i mean.. its up to that person whom to love.. but dont overdoing it.. i have a
friend who is gay and we get along fine.. its not like they live a totally
different lives than the str8 guys... just their love is a bit twisted...
I do not think that love can be twisted it just is and to say that homosexuality
is not okay in any religion is incorrect. Paganisum and other religions as well
see it as just human nature. To make one very broad assumption is very thinking.
HOWEVER, this giant subculure "Gay is who I am, What I do, It defines
me" really.... really... It just needs help. I mean.. come on. If the main
way someone can describe themselves is "I'm gay/lesbian"... they have
issues with themselves. One's sexuality should not define someone. A person's
likes, dislikes, abilities, weaknesses, emotions, etc. define them.
Maybe if homo/bisexuality becomes more accepted the need to flaunt oneself for
being "different" ((HA! Different. Utter bullshit, that.)) will
diminish and everyone can just be themselves again, instead of TRYING so HARD
to... to... I don't know what.
In a psycology class, the teacher said that gay people's brains are actually a
sort of "mistake" in genetics. Male and female brains are different,
and according to the teacher, a gay male's brain will show some similarities to
femal brain structures, which can explain why some gay men show some female
traits (same thing with females but switched). So i think homosexuality cant be
stopped and for human right's sake, it shouldnt.
Quote by KingToboI think the Christian
church really made a mistake when they took such a firm, shunning stance on
homosexuality. I have seen quite a few Christian homosexuals I know turn away
from the Church, because even though they believed in the teachings, they just
couldn't stand that they were never allowed to be
themselves.
Though it may seem a "mistake", there's
a reason behind the Christian church's reaction; it's clearly stated within the
Bible that homosexuality is wrong, and that it was unnatural. God doesn't
approve of homosexuality, and so Christians follow the suite. I don't believe
that those people who pose gay protests or carry the gay-bashing signs or such
are correct, though; as kellyo said, God loves the sinner but hates the sin, and
I don't think He approves of treating other people like that. I won't give one
of those "hellfire and brimstone" lectures to homosexuals, but neither
do I approve of the practice.
*shrug* No offense intended to anyone, and feel free to disagree with me (the
same way I may disagree with you), but I'll continue to hold to what I believe.
Like all people know.People are afraid of things you dont understand.
I mean I dont think people care anymore but they always have to have something
to pick on a person about.Like your fate!,Your slow,Your a freaking retard,Your
gay freaking faget.
I mean it doesnt realy matter to them they just need something to find to pick
on you.
I LOVE GAY,LESBIANS,Bi`s they rock!
Awsome to have as friends too.Especially the guys cause they understand you
more.
But Oh my god one of my friends NICK!
He ackts like a complete faget and one day im walking to my ride and I see him
locking lips with amanda I was like damn! O_O
GO NICK!
Quote by forgotenfeatherOh my god
one of my friends NICK!
He ackts like a complete faget and one day im walking to my ride and I see him
locking lips with amanda I was like damn! O_O
GO NICK!
Quote by KingToboI think the Christian
church really made a mistake when they took such a firm, shunning stance on
homosexuality. I have seen quite a few Christian homosexuals I know turn away
from the Church, because even though they believed in the teachings, they just
couldn't stand that they were never allowed to be
themselves.
Though it may seem a "mistake", there's
a reason behind the Christian church's reaction; it's clearly stated within the
Bible that homosexuality is wrong, and that it was unnatural. God doesn't
approve of homosexuality, and so Christians follow the suite. I don't believe
that those people who pose gay protests or carry the gay-bashing signs or such
are correct, though; as kellyo said, God loves the sinner but hates the sin, and
I don't think He approves of treating other people like that. I won't give one
of those "hellfire and brimstone" lectures to homosexuals, but neither
do I approve of the practice.
*shrug* No offense intended to anyone, and feel free to disagree with me (the
same way I may disagree with you), but I'll continue to hold to what I
believe.
Actually I myself am a Christian who beleives homosexuality is wrong, I'm just
saying I think there are far too many people within the Church who have taken a
position of shunning gays. I think we can accept homosexuals into the Church
without saying what they do is right, and there are far too many people who
can't do that.
Quote by KingTobo Actually I myself am a
Christian who beleives homosexuality is wrong, I'm just saying I think there are
far too many people within the Church who have taken a position of shunning
gays. I think we can accept homosexuals into the Church without saying what they
do is right, and there are far too many people who can't do
that.
To say that you want someone to join you in a deep and spiritual journey, i.e.
joining your church, but letting them know straight out that you do not accept
them for who they are is far more than simple ironey. Personally I don't beleive
in sin or the bible, life means far more to me than something I will give
another human being the right to tell me how it works. Existance, each and
everyone is splendedly beautiful, each with their flaws but to want a person, be
it for their number or for their money to add to your chruch is the closest
thing to a sin than I can possibly think of. Murderers kill becuase something in
their psycological makeup cause them to act that way. But to tell someone that
you want them to join you in such a deep and complex journey through life is
most possibly the foulest thing I have ever heard. People make fun of others
becuase they are afraid or uncomfortable. But, if god is perfect and the bible
is right, then how could anything that god has created be defective. If you are
correct than god loves us all as we are and the trials of accepting the others
that god has created is a part of that. Man, I feel sick now.
Seperation of Church and State. Thats ONE of the foundations the country the US
was built off of. Why does the Christian faith have to dictate everyone? Youre
simply slapping the face of every other religion and its followers. As an
Atheist, I dont care what your God/Goddesses/Whatever has to say.
Where does it say in the Bible that Homosexuality is wrong? Because from my
experiences with citing from the Bible, it seems its highly up to
interpretation... I just found out recently that 7 Days too create the Universe
and such could have meant 2.5 billion years.. Humans are
deciphering these texts which other humans wrote? Who were the geniuses that
figured God told Christians to slaughter millions of babies and grandmothers for
the sake of converting them into Christians before they burned in hell? Ever
heard of the CRUSADES?
If the term Marriage is so sacred, then if the title between two gay people were
changed, would that satisfy Christians? Civil Union?
Adopting a child: Did you know serial killers, rapists, child molestors,
canibals, 11 year old girls, etc can have children.. Are they LEGALLY or
SOCIALLY or even MENTALLY better of raising children than a gay couple with high
paying salaries and a house? Most gays come from hetero homes. And there are
already families consisting of gayparents bringing up perfectly straight
children. What's the problem?
Until recently in New York, a gay couple could not see each other in the
emergency room because they were not considered real relationships.. Are you
kidding me? You would allow a person to die suffering and ALONE rather than with
the person they love regardless of gender? Is that even humane? They want that
little paper document for inheritence rights, medical benefits, other benefits,
etc.... Something a hetero couple can take advantage of.
Outside of the religious argument, the fight against gay marriage is pretty
weak... SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE.. Remember that.
BTW Im straight but I belong to a minority group that is also highly
stereotyped... Any threat to basic civil rights threatens me personally. Because
I dont want the day where execution based on not fiitting amongst the
"norm" is ever debated. You THINK we're living in a free world. Since
when did popular vote count?
In regards to xRedPhoenix *applauds* and you're totally right, even in this day
the line between church and state is fuzzy at best. Especially with Bush
attempting to make the school systems teach the story of Adam and Eve in
schools. WTF? Even the phrase -In god we trust- printed on our currency and
having so stated in our court houses and so many other idiotic situations such
as having the ten commandments written and in view for the population at public
and state funded sites. None of it makes and lick of sense if you think about
it. Sad to admit that it is human nature to be contradictory so much so that do
as I say not as I act is very familiar phrase. But then this country, USA, was
taken over by religiously shunned Europeans a few hundred years ago and that is
why there is still so many references to god in our current culture. *Sighs*
eh, everyone here can rant and rave on about god sex and gays but, the bottom
line is always there, its always going to be unbalanced, thats the society we
live in. and until all the old folks die out and the world ends, this
arguement(in my opinion) will probably continue on till god knows when.
i really don't care about who is gay and who isn't, alot of my aunts are
lesbian and my friends are gay, so when i make the statement 'i hate gays' thats
the same as some KKK hating black people for no apparent reason, the only thing
that gays have done is go against the bible and proved alot of what was said in
revelations. 'in the end, men will become lovers of themselves' blah blah blah.
iam not a religious person and yet, i don't exactly march the gay parade, so,
in retrospect everyone is going to be wrong to someone else aern't they? i just
think the idea of turning a disgusting act against two people of the same sex
into profit(look at t.v shows, porn etc) is wrong. everyone here has there views
on gays but no one says, 'hey, were ok but were gonna make fun of it too' and
that sort of shit. its just a rolling pile that keeps on going downinto a
sespool cause americans can't or will not stop being so afraid of what they
don't understand, and when they don't understand it, they make fun of it too.
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eh, everyone here can rant and rave on about god sex and gays but, the bottom
line is always there, its always going to be unbalanced, thats the society we
live in. and until all the old folks die out and the world ends, this
arguement(in my opinion) will probably continue on till god knows when.
i really don't care about who is gay and who isn't, alot of my aunts are
lesbian and my friends are gay, so when i make the statement 'i hate gays' thats
the same as some KKK hating black people for no apparent reason, the only thing
that gays have done is go against the bible and proved alot of what was said in
revelations. 'in the end, men will become lovers of themselves' blah blah blah.
iam not a religious person and yet, i don't exactly march the gay parade, so,
in retrospect everyone is going to be wrong to someone else aern't they? i just
think the idea of turning a disgusting act against two people of the same sex
into profit(look at t.v shows, porn etc) is wrong. everyone here has there views
on gays but no one says, 'hey, were ok but were gonna make fun of it too' and
that sort of shit. its just a rolling pile that keeps on going downinto a
sespool cause americans can't or will not stop being so afraid of what they
don't understand, and when they don't understand it, they make fun of it too.
well for me - homosexuallity is some kind of modern way of living. Especially in
Western-Europe I think to be gay or metro-sexual... you know... is as normal as
a new hairstyle. Guys change their sexuallity like a pair of trousers...
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Why are gays and lesbians horribly harassed, abused and mistreated in today's society? And how does Religion look upon the Gay and Lesbian community respond to Religion in kind? This thread is not here to insult the gay or lesbian community or the Religious community in any way, or to make any nagative waves of any kind, only to generate some honest , civilized disscussion on this issue.
Comments welcome.
I'm currently reading The Bible, and I disagree with The Old Testament in what it says about homosexuality. I'm the only one in my family who thinks that love between guys/girls is just natural.
(maybe that also explains why I am a shounen-ai fan ^_^)
Homosexuality is o.k as long as the people/especially the boys don´t act so wierd... I know many Lesbians and in my opinion you can better talk to them as if you talk with "normal" girls!^^ Maybe girls feel the same but just the way around!^^
As long as lesbians respect the fact that I'm straight, I have no problem with homosexuality. A lot of good friends of mine are gay, lesbian or bi. Sexuality doesn't make them any less human than I am.
Homosexuality is a natural (occurs naturally, ie: people are born that way.), though it would not be considered normal. Normal requires that over 50% of the population be that way.
Anyway. I believe, your preference is your own, you don't choose your sexuall path. So, as long as I'm not hit on, by any gay men, I'm okay.
Think about it... if everyone on the planet were breeders, then the world would be even more over-populated then it already is.
I myself am bisexual, and you can say I was just born that way but it also has to do with my own personal views on the relationships between both men and women and so on and so forth. Firstly, a relationship with a person is based on emotional feelings, their personality traits, common interests, heh, I think you get the idea. Secondly, the concept of putting people in social, sexual, political, or religious categories never even really occurs to me, each person is a unique individual. Thirdly, the line between love and lust are vast, a very sad fact that the majority (heh, only said it because it was mentioned like 3 times in previous posts) of people seem to miss for some reason or another. Fourth . .ly? ^_^ Each body has its own beauty and each person their own strengths and weaknesses so, why should their sexual preference or the fact that they may be the same sex as you yourself are matter in the long run if you are either physically attracted to them or emotionally?
*Blinks* . . . And 50% of the population does not make something normal. Being normal is some weird idea that many individuals either do their best to become or try as they might go against it. *Shrugs* But hey, what ever floats your boat and makes you feel better. . . but trying to rate anything as normal can only lead to stuffing yourself in a box of what you think or dont think according to your own take on social norms. . . And for the guys who are all paranoid that some guy is going to hit on you, damn get a grip, if your not gay or if they arent a good friend joking with you, you are being overly judgmental and PARANOID. . . also, you�re probably way to full of your self and . . I could go on but it is hard to sound serious when I am laughing my ass off ^_^
-Jheir
I believe it's wrong. Just like other sins - adultery, pediphilia, beastiality, sex outside of marriage, etc. - God hates it. He doesn't hate the ones who commit the sins but He hates the sin. And movies like Brokeback are only an attempt to make the perverse palatible.
What if Hollywood put out a movie that did a masterful job of making us feel the pain of a female school teacher who had fallen in love with her 15 year old student? It really made us feel that we shouldn't criticize so much. That they truly love each other and we should accept them being together.
She's a pediphile. But, I'm sure many would support the movie. "Groundbreaking!" "Dares us to understand true love!" Can't you see the reviews?
Personally I think that you fall in love with someone's mind not their body. I don't really care whether or not someone is homosexual.
I think the Christian church really made a mistake when they took such a firm, shunning stance on homosexuality. I have seen quite a few Christian homosexuals I know turn away from the Church, because even though they believed in the teachings, they just couldn't stand that they were never allowed to be themselves. Too many Christians act as if homosexuality is something you "cure" someone of, like it's some disease. In reality, asking a homosexual person to change thier preference is just as rediculous as asking a straight person to change thiers -- it just doesn't make sense and it will never work.
I think it should be left to the persons involved. It's all about choosing a path in life. If it's different than from what people expect, so be it. Get with the times and deal.
I do not see anything wrong with homosexuality. Just because someone may be gay doesn't make them any less of a decent individual and no deserves to be harassed for thier choice of partners
it's sin and it's not allowed, in any religion for that matter...
mine says its forbidden.. but i dont really against them..
i mean.. its up to that person whom to love.. but dont overdoing it.. i have a friend who is gay and we get along fine.. its not like they live a totally different lives than the str8 guys... just their love is a bit twisted...
I do not think that love can be twisted it just is and to say that homosexuality is not okay in any religion is incorrect. Paganisum and other religions as well see it as just human nature. To make one very broad assumption is very thinking.
Go for it. Love is love.
HOWEVER, this giant subculure "Gay is who I am, What I do, It defines me" really.... really... It just needs help. I mean.. come on. If the main way someone can describe themselves is "I'm gay/lesbian"... they have issues with themselves. One's sexuality should not define someone. A person's likes, dislikes, abilities, weaknesses, emotions, etc. define them.
Maybe if homo/bisexuality becomes more accepted the need to flaunt oneself for being "different" ((HA! Different. Utter bullshit, that.)) will diminish and everyone can just be themselves again, instead of TRYING so HARD to... to... I don't know what.
In a psycology class, the teacher said that gay people's brains are actually a sort of "mistake" in genetics. Male and female brains are different, and according to the teacher, a gay male's brain will show some similarities to femal brain structures, which can explain why some gay men show some female traits (same thing with females but switched). So i think homosexuality cant be stopped and for human right's sake, it shouldnt.
Though it may seem a "mistake", there's a reason behind the Christian church's reaction; it's clearly stated within the Bible that homosexuality is wrong, and that it was unnatural. God doesn't approve of homosexuality, and so Christians follow the suite. I don't believe that those people who pose gay protests or carry the gay-bashing signs or such are correct, though; as kellyo said, God loves the sinner but hates the sin, and I don't think He approves of treating other people like that. I won't give one of those "hellfire and brimstone" lectures to homosexuals, but neither do I approve of the practice.
*shrug* No offense intended to anyone, and feel free to disagree with me (the same way I may disagree with you), but I'll continue to hold to what I believe.
Like all people know.People are afraid of things you dont understand.
I mean I dont think people care anymore but they always have to have something to pick on a person about.Like your fate!,Your slow,Your a freaking retard,Your gay freaking faget.
I mean it doesnt realy matter to them they just need something to find to pick on you.
I LOVE GAY,LESBIANS,Bi`s they rock!
Awsome to have as friends too.Especially the guys cause they understand you more.
But Oh my god one of my friends NICK!
He ackts like a complete faget and one day im walking to my ride and I see him locking lips with amanda I was like damn! O_O
GO NICK!
lol, nice!
Actually I myself am a Christian who beleives homosexuality is wrong, I'm just saying I think there are far too many people within the Church who have taken a position of shunning gays. I think we can accept homosexuals into the Church without saying what they do is right, and there are far too many people who can't do that.
To say that you want someone to join you in a deep and spiritual journey, i.e. joining your church, but letting them know straight out that you do not accept them for who they are is far more than simple ironey. Personally I don't beleive in sin or the bible, life means far more to me than something I will give another human being the right to tell me how it works. Existance, each and everyone is splendedly beautiful, each with their flaws but to want a person, be it for their number or for their money to add to your chruch is the closest thing to a sin than I can possibly think of. Murderers kill becuase something in their psycological makeup cause them to act that way. But to tell someone that you want them to join you in such a deep and complex journey through life is most possibly the foulest thing I have ever heard. People make fun of others becuase they are afraid or uncomfortable. But, if god is perfect and the bible is right, then how could anything that god has created be defective. If you are correct than god loves us all as we are and the trials of accepting the others that god has created is a part of that. Man, I feel sick now.
Seperation of Church and State. Thats ONE of the foundations the country the US was built off of. Why does the Christian faith have to dictate everyone? Youre simply slapping the face of every other religion and its followers. As an Atheist, I dont care what your God/Goddesses/Whatever has to say.
Where does it say in the Bible that Homosexuality is wrong? Because from my experiences with citing from the Bible, it seems its highly up to interpretation... I just found out recently that 7 Days too create the Universe and such could have meant 2.5 billion years..
Humans are
deciphering these texts which other humans wrote? Who were the geniuses that
figured God told Christians to slaughter millions of babies and grandmothers for
the sake of converting them into Christians before they burned in hell? Ever
heard of the CRUSADES?
If the term Marriage is so sacred, then if the title between two gay people were changed, would that satisfy Christians? Civil Union?
Adopting a child: Did you know serial killers, rapists, child molestors, canibals, 11 year old girls, etc can have children.. Are they LEGALLY or SOCIALLY or even MENTALLY better of raising children than a gay couple with high paying salaries and a house? Most gays come from hetero homes. And there are already families consisting of gayparents bringing up perfectly straight children. What's the problem?
Until recently in New York, a gay couple could not see each other in the emergency room because they were not considered real relationships.. Are you kidding me? You would allow a person to die suffering and ALONE rather than with the person they love regardless of gender? Is that even humane? They want that little paper document for inheritence rights, medical benefits, other benefits, etc.... Something a hetero couple can take advantage of.
Outside of the religious argument, the fight against gay marriage is pretty weak... SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE.. Remember that.
BTW Im straight but I belong to a minority group that is also highly stereotyped... Any threat to basic civil rights threatens me personally. Because I dont want the day where execution based on not fiitting amongst the "norm" is ever debated. You THINK we're living in a free world. Since when did popular vote count?
i'm ok with homosexuality but it's nmot for me you know what i'm saying i'm not gay but a lot of my freinds are
In regards to xRedPhoenix *applauds* and you're totally right, even in this day the line between church and state is fuzzy at best. Especially with Bush attempting to make the school systems teach the story of Adam and Eve in schools. WTF? Even the phrase -In god we trust- printed on our currency and having so stated in our court houses and so many other idiotic situations such as having the ten commandments written and in view for the population at public and state funded sites. None of it makes and lick of sense if you think about it. Sad to admit that it is human nature to be contradictory so much so that do as I say not as I act is very familiar phrase. But then this country, USA, was taken over by religiously shunned Europeans a few hundred years ago and that is why there is still so many references to god in our current culture. *Sighs*
eh, everyone here can rant and rave on about god sex and gays but, the bottom line is always there, its always going to be unbalanced, thats the society we live in. and until all the old folks die out and the world ends, this arguement(in my opinion) will probably continue on till god knows when.
i really don't care about who is gay and who isn't, alot of my aunts are lesbian and my friends are gay, so when i make the statement 'i hate gays' thats the same as some KKK hating black people for no apparent reason, the only thing that gays have done is go against the bible and proved alot of what was said in revelations. 'in the end, men will become lovers of themselves' blah blah blah.
iam not a religious person and yet, i don't exactly march the gay parade, so, in retrospect everyone is going to be wrong to someone else aern't they? i just think the idea of turning a disgusting act against two people of the same sex into profit(look at t.v shows, porn etc) is wrong. everyone here has there views on gays but no one says, 'hey, were ok but were gonna make fun of it too' and that sort of shit. its just a rolling pile that keeps on going downinto a sespool cause americans can't or will not stop being so afraid of what they don't understand, and when they don't understand it, they make fun of it too.
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eh, everyone here can rant and rave on about god sex and gays but, the bottom line is always there, its always going to be unbalanced, thats the society we live in. and until all the old folks die out and the world ends, this arguement(in my opinion) will probably continue on till god knows when.
i really don't care about who is gay and who isn't, alot of my aunts are lesbian and my friends are gay, so when i make the statement 'i hate gays' thats the same as some KKK hating black people for no apparent reason, the only thing that gays have done is go against the bible and proved alot of what was said in revelations. 'in the end, men will become lovers of themselves' blah blah blah.
iam not a religious person and yet, i don't exactly march the gay parade, so, in retrospect everyone is going to be wrong to someone else aern't they? i just think the idea of turning a disgusting act against two people of the same sex into profit(look at t.v shows, porn etc) is wrong. everyone here has there views on gays but no one says, 'hey, were ok but were gonna make fun of it too' and that sort of shit. its just a rolling pile that keeps on going downinto a sespool cause americans can't or will not stop being so afraid of what they don't understand, and when they don't understand it, they make fun of it too.
well for me - homosexuallity is some kind of modern way of living. Especially in Western-Europe I think to be gay or metro-sexual... you know... is as normal as a new hairstyle. Guys change their sexuallity like a pair of trousers...