I am using the latest version of Firefox (1.5.0.1) and adblock is the only
notable extension I am using. I've noticed in the last few weeks when I go to
download anything on MT, that after the page loads and shows the image, when I
right click and save the image it downloads all over again. Even if I right
click and save as while it is still downloading, it will download again when it
saves it to the disk. I know when you save something in Firefox even if it is
cached Firefox will ask the server if whatever it is has changed from the cached
version. Normally unless the item you are downloading has changed the server
would respond with: HTTP/1.1" 304 - which is a HTTP status code meaning
"Not modified". If the MT server was responding with that status code
when we right click and save as on a gallery item that Firefox has cached it
should just copy the image out of the cache instead of downloading it again.
This is also a waste of server bandwidth since every image I save to disk has to
download all over again, though at least I am not charged twice the credits for
downloading the same thing over again in this situation.
This wouldn't bother me so much if you could download more then one image at a
time and if the server transfered faster then 20-40k/sec max. I have checked and
rechecked all of my browsers caching settings, the size of the cache is 128 MB
which should be more then enough, and the browser is set to only check for new
versions after the document expires, and the browser is set to use HTTP 1.1 as
it should be.
I decided to run a test by clicking download on a doujinshi, waiting for it to
load completely, then closing the download window, and downloading it again. The
second time I went to the download, the whole image showed from the cache for a
moment, then blanked out and downloaded again. This problem ONLY happens on MT,
other sites when I save an image it saves directly out of the cache without
downloading again.
I noticed that too- it could be a patch to keep people from getting charged
credits for corrupted or timed-out downloads. I'm not an admin, that's just my
guess.
Same problem. The pic is here but when I want to save it, it sometimes download
it again instead of just saving it.
That's really annoying that I have to download sometimes two times the same
picture. I know that most of people have quick connections but I am not in this
situation... moreover I have an upload/download limit.
Thanks, in the mean time I have used a small work around, when I go to download
an image I stop right when the image starts to show on the page, and right click
the small portion then save as and it downloads and saves the full image using
very little extra bandwidth (or time) from downloading it twice.
Edit: I just went digging around in about:cache in firefox and looked up a
wallpaper I downloaded today. Could the items in bold have anything to do with
this problem or help you track it down faster?
Code:
key: http://...Azumanga.Daioh_223650.jpg
fetch count: 2
last fetched: 2006-03-15 23:49:48
last modified: 2006-03-15 22:09:46
expires: 1969-12-31 18:00:00
Data size: 225883
file on disk C:\Documents and Settings\...\Cache\BDB3FAA2d01
Security: This document does not have any security info associated with
it.
---------------
Client: HTTP
request-method: GET
response-head:
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 04:09:13 GMT
Server: Apache
X-Powered-By: PHP/4.4.0-pl1-gentoo with Hardening-Patch Expires: Thu, 19 Nov 1981 08:52:00 GMT
Cache-Control: max-age=3600, must-revalidate
Pragma: no-cache
content-disposition: inline
Content-Length: 225411
Content-Type: image/jpg
The following in in the response headers and suggests that caching is not
allowed. Another side effect that is especially annoying is how if you
accidentally hit back when typing a post, it is lost forever since the pages
always refresh. That seriously discourages writing long posts.
Interesting. The expiration dates are before the internet was even made public.
Well, I'm noting this down, so that if sheqel doesn't see it himself, I'll let
him know about it.
It looks like it still isn't fixed for me. Everything I download and save is
downloaded again as it has been for some time.
[Edit] It looks like it may be working now. I actually saw one get saved without
re-downloading.
[Edit 2] Well, I'm seeing a bit of both now, but I don't really download enough
to characterize it.
Does anyone have the problem of thinking you can't download enought pics? I'm
trying to get some good ones for an RP account I have, and it keeps telling me
I'm going over! ><;;;
I am using the latest version of Firefox (1.5.0.1) and adblock is the only notable extension I am using. I've noticed in the last few weeks when I go to download anything on MT, that after the page loads and shows the image, when I right click and save the image it downloads all over again. Even if I right click and save as while it is still downloading, it will download again when it saves it to the disk. I know when you save something in Firefox even if it is cached Firefox will ask the server if whatever it is has changed from the cached version. Normally unless the item you are downloading has changed the server would respond with: HTTP/1.1" 304 - which is a HTTP status code meaning "Not modified". If the MT server was responding with that status code when we right click and save as on a gallery item that Firefox has cached it should just copy the image out of the cache instead of downloading it again. This is also a waste of server bandwidth since every image I save to disk has to download all over again, though at least I am not charged twice the credits for downloading the same thing over again in this situation.
This wouldn't bother me so much if you could download more then one image at a time and if the server transfered faster then 20-40k/sec max. I have checked and rechecked all of my browsers caching settings, the size of the cache is 128 MB which should be more then enough, and the browser is set to only check for new versions after the document expires, and the browser is set to use HTTP 1.1 as it should be.
I decided to run a test by clicking download on a doujinshi, waiting for it to load completely, then closing the download window, and downloading it again. The second time I went to the download, the whole image showed from the cache for a moment, then blanked out and downloaded again. This problem ONLY happens on MT, other sites when I save an image it saves directly out of the cache without downloading again.
I noticed that too- it could be a patch to keep people from getting charged credits for corrupted or timed-out downloads. I'm not an admin, that's just my guess.
Same problem. The pic is here but when I want to save it, it sometimes download it again instead of just saving it.
That's really annoying that I have to download sometimes two times the same picture. I know that most of people have quick connections but I am not in this situation... moreover I have an upload/download limit.
thanks for the notification. this thing appears once in a while. will look into it.
Thanks, in the mean time I have used a small work around, when I go to download an image I stop right when the image starts to show on the page, and right click the small portion then save as and it downloads and saves the full image using very little extra bandwidth (or time) from downloading it twice.
Edit: I just went digging around in about:cache in firefox and looked up a wallpaper I downloaded today. Could the items in bold have anything to do with this problem or help you track it down faster?
The following in in the response headers and suggests that caching is not allowed. Another side effect that is especially annoying is how if you accidentally hit back when typing a post, it is lost forever since the pages always refresh. That seriously discourages writing long posts.
Expires: Thu, 19 Nov 1981 08:52:00 GMT
Cache-Control: no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate, post-check=0, pre-check=0
Pragma: no-cache
Interesting. The expiration dates are before the internet was even made public. Well, I'm noting this down, so that if sheqel doesn't see it himself, I'll let him know about it.
Thanks guys.
I've had the same problem also, I'd just report that this occurs through all of Firefoxes versions from 1.07 to 1.5 RC3.
I don't remeber if this happens in IE, but I have a feeling that I doesn't because it ignores that expiry date.
it should be fixed by now (by the sysadmin)
It looks like it still isn't fixed for me. Everything I download and save is downloaded again as it has been for some time.
[Edit] It looks like it may be working now. I actually saw one get saved without re-downloading.
[Edit 2] Well, I'm seeing a bit of both now, but I don't really download enough to characterize it.
No change, still seems to be doing it to me. I tried clearing my browers cache before downloading something but it had no effect.
I think I have downloaded today approximately 15 wallpapers and 5 were downladed a second time.
Does anyone have the problem of thinking you can't download enought pics? I'm trying to get some good ones for an RP account I have, and it keeps telling me I'm going over! ><;;;