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France in Turmoil....Again.

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12045529/

And this, my friends, is what happens when you fail to recognize the dangerous pitfalls of socialism.

France is falling apart. First it was the immigrant riots, and now riots about labor laws.

France has a massive unemployment rate, 23%, and they are not going to be able to compete globally if this keeps up.

Heh - that's because the brand of socialism put in place in Paris after WWII by deGaulle and his cronies fostered a culture of high taxes and government programs supposedly cabpapble of providing for everyone's needs that in turn led a culture of entitlement. Of COURSE the frenchies are going to be angry if one of their welfare benefits are taken away - they haven't been gouged by progressively higher tax rates to lose their state entitlements now, gosh-darnit!
It's something of our current social secutiry crisis all blown out of proportion - because the french culture no longer emphasizes individuals or families taking care of themselves, citizens rely on the state. And when the state f's up, as it always does, everyone tied to it suffers.

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France has a massive unemployment rate, 23%, and they are not going to be able to compete globally if this keeps up.

Last time I check, it was less than 10 %).
It really makes me wonder if I am the one who has not-really-accurate news source (I don't know if you remember that I am the one that said that I read the Guardian and Reuters and you told me all the good things you thougth about them). http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/3/28/36254032.pdf


So is there any luck that "haute couture" dresses would be more socialist ? You know these prices seem too capitalist for me.

Thank you for your interpretations. It's such an enligthnement to be told that a supposed rigth-wind leader implemented a kind of socialism... even though I really think that northern europe have higher taxes. I also thought it was some young of the poor suburbs that rioted last time, not really the immigrants but I guess I wasn't watching/reading the good news media.

So I also had the impressions that this time "riots" isn't the correct word except if the thing some american did these last days (their manifestation against new immigration laws) can also be called "riots."

Quote by bwebhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12045529/

And this, my friends, is what happens when you fail to recognize the dangerous pitfalls of socialism.

France is falling apart. First it was the immigrant riots, and now riots about labor laws.

France has a massive unemployment rate, 23%, and they are not going to be able to compete globally if this keeps up.


Are we not dealing with the same thing down in the Southern US?

might I add that you are only turning around the main problem. The students movement happening right now in France has more to do with fighting against the new law encouraging precariousness in the French youth. The "CPE" ( Contrat Premiere Embauche)
Union and student leaders say the CPE will create a generation of "throwaway workers" by making it easier to dismiss employees under 26 during a two-year trial period.
it IS true. Employers will need absolutely no reason to dismiss any new employee under the CPE contract for the first 2 years.

I could care less about the French. We got enough problems over here.

im proud to be amedican, we are literally jobless in my city
es like french, as the mexicans take over hard labors, there seems to be no use for school
since people compete too much for jobs
two words:
give up...

The fact is, the French situation is not good, everybody agrees upon this point. But, if I believe what I read here, it seems that my country is in the midst of a civil war and that I failed to notice it.
As to the reliability of information in the United States, on one occasion CNN situated, on a broadcsted map, Paris somewhere in the east of the country while it is in the center, and the city of Strasbourg they put somewhere in Germany.
Furthermore, De Gaulle was not in the least a socialist but rather anti-socialist and fiercely anti-communist. Our last socialist president was François Mitterand with two mandates from 1981 to 1988 and 1988 to 1995, and then the most of the time the parliament was in the opposition then.
But then I guess my information about France is less reliable than CNN's very own, I only live here.

bweb why assult the French in this manner when our own country just had massive protests against the immagration " reform". 500,000 in L.A. and more around the country we have unemployment ourselves and the jobs that are replaced are low levvel Wal Mart type jobs that pay nothing like the previous, it has nothing to do with it being socialist it has to do with coporations, greed, and the people taking back the Law. Very few people have died if any and if you remeber the French still support the idea of free speech and for the people by the people their just literally acting it out. you should listen to NPR, BBC, or read non political french newspaper i'm sure you'll get more credible reports from them.

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