That means, BE A PARENT!

I am absolutely disgusting by how the upcoming generation is being raised. They're snotty, stupid, and have no regard to themselves and others. They get away with murder because when the chips are down, Mommy and Daddy are going to bail their asses out.

But who's fault is it? The child, for being snotty and stupid, or the parents, for constantly bailing their asses out.

Here's a hint: the parents.

Are parents forgetting how to parent? It appears so. In the past, when a child did something wrong, the parents stepped up to take responsibility for the mistake and to make sure that the child was punished accordingly. Today, it seems that everybody else is at fault EXCEPT the child.

Recently, on these very boards, a person posted a link to a shooting at a Seattle rave. One poor, terrified mother reported that her daughter was there and that she didn't know if the girl was okay. The mother was quoted saying that she never liked those parties and that the girl "shouldn't have gone." HELLO! Shouldn't have gone? You're letting your 15 year old immature child decide whether or not she's going to attend a rave? How ignorant are you? Do you forget what raves consist of?

Here's another case, where a 10 year old boy lost an eye after shooting himself with a paintball gun. The mother, during an interview, starting blaming the lack of safety programs teaching kids otherwise-- gee, Mom, did you forget what you were there for? If you're going to buy your 10 year old a paintball gun, don't you think you should make sure he's properly trained?

Guess not.

All around me today, I see parents who are forgetting what the hell they're there for. When something goes wrong, they try to blame everybody but themselves. It's a vicious cycle. As a result, their children are ignorant and arrogant little brats. I see it at the stores, where the children are running around all over the place unattended. I see it by schools, where kids are out smoking and hanging out instead of being in class. I see it everywhere. You can't miss it. And it breaks my heart, because the root of this problem is that their parents don't know how to be parents.

Parents, BE PARENTS!

It is YOUR job to make the rules and MAKE SURE they are enforced.

It is YOUR job to check in on your kids and make sure they're safe.

It is YOUR job to say "NO" when your child wants to go to a potentially dangerous place.

It is YOUR job to make sure your child understand the importance of school and getting a good education.

It is YOUR job to make sure your child isn't hanging out with a bad crowd.

And your YOUR child messes up, it is YOUR job to make sure they understand what they did wrong, fix the mistake, and are punished for it.

You are NOT supposed to be their friends. That means it's normal if they get mad at you when you say no, it's normal if they get mad at you for "invading their privacy", it's normal if they get mad at you for asking about their friends, it's normal if they get mad at you for grounding them because they forgot to take out the garbage, and it's normal for them to get mad at you for making sure their homework is completed.

Because when they're in their late 20's and 30's and are successful, they'll be thanking YOU for being there, for guiding them down the right path.

To all of the good parents out there, I commend you immensely. To all of the good kids out there, pat yourselves on the back. I feel terribly sorry that your peers on both sides are making all of you look bad.

It's just pathetic anymore.

Who's the child, the 7 year old with the attitude, or the 37 year old who can't take responsibility?

You speak the truth.
I applaud you for that.

i think it's just that the technology today is progressing too fast and most of these encourage slacking, doing it the easy way etc... liberalism has also taken the minds of people. the parents can't seem to keep up and the generation gaps are becoming wider. in the past, the parents could raise their children with the same method they were raised by their parents but now they can't since they're going pretty far apart.. the society in let's say.. 1800's wouldn't be far much different from the society in like.. the 1850's while the society in the 1960's would be quite different from the society now.

Technology is only a part of it. Parents wouldn't have to worry about it if they raised their kids good enough.

And society might be different, but the basic guidelines of parenting are always the same.

I agree. I study in an all-girls' school, and you can only imagine the horror. Some of the girls are bratty, impatient girls who don't know what real pain is. The complain about even the smallest things, and break up with their boyfriends whenever they want to. I even heard that there was this girl who did it with her boyfriend, lost it at the age of 13, and broke up with him because she kissed another guy. Her parents have no idea about what's going on...

I agree with everything you said - and you made me glad my parents are doing their jobs well.

I applaud my family for teaching me right. My record is clean. No drugs, not tobacco. Only alcohal in some situations.
Parenting isn't hard. Just take some effort. That not even a lot. just a simple no and yes can work wonders.

Although i agree with this thread but it's sorta pointless making it. I mean how many Parents these days are gonna come on Minitokyo and read this? Just throwing that out there.

The child's location, environment, friends, and all
the people around him/her can influence a lot.
But it is also up to the child to make the right decision on its own.

If the child's parent are crackpots , then do you think
the child will be taught correctly by his/her parent?

Quote by zeroenna57Although i agree with this thread but it's sorta pointless making it. I mean how many Parents these days are gonna come on Minitokyo and read this? Just throwing that out there.

How many people on Minitoyko are going to grow up and be parents someday?

A lot.

Think outside the box.

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Tiki--

A child won't know right from wrong unless taught right from wrong.

You bring up a good point about crackhead parents, but sometimes, a parents' habits can turn a kid away from them. Hence why I don't drink, because my parents were alcoholics.

Amen to that...it really is sad the way my generation was brought up...Im truly thankfull to my parents for raising me to not be such an idiot.

A lot of feminists have decided that being a housewife is "demeaning" and such garbage, so while both parents are out pursuing a career, the child is left alone for their entire childhood. And a lot of ignorant males are viewing taking care of the child as a job that is better left for the women, which is also incorrect.

I think that is also a small part of the problem, but I could be wrong.

*Sigh* Another ageist... children who are foolish enough to smoke and get arrested are idiots, please try not to generalize all of us. Allow I have to agree that overall you're right, it's the sad truth, but it's not 100% true and it would be nice if you didn't treat it like it was.

Whenever people talk about today's children being a bad generation, they seem to forget that the children of, lets say, the 1890s and 1900s grew up to give the world World Wars 1 and 2, including the only use of an atom bomb against other humans. Their children then gave the world Vietnam, the Gulf war etc. When you look at it like that, missing school and stealing some albums from HMV seems very tame.

not every kid is like that dumbass. im mean yea, theres the regular crack head and violent murder or two, but that doesnt mean you have to go shouting that every kid these days are either crack heads, violent murders, drug dealers, etc. if it bothers you that much than get off your ass, stop complaining and do somthing about it.

Even if im totally agree with Arinami, just cant blame most of the parents, to think, no one teaches them how to be a good mom/dad, they do their best trying to not be too careless or too overprotective, of course not all of them, some dont care at all, just think that buying them stuffs and allowing kids do whatever they want are great parents.

And, at 15 you know whats wrong or dangerous, if you want to expose yourself to that... dont blame your parents for being too soft, better blame yourself for being that stupid.

im happy my parents brought me up good. cus were i leave theres alot of racist kids who are on drugs

Well, today's wealth allows children to be snotty and demanding. If everyone, including children, had to work 12 hours on their farms, I guarantee children wouldn't be as snotty as they are now.

Amen. Parents don't teach their kids manners anymore, they don't teach them common sense. I was in the grocery store one day this past summer, and this woman and her daughter were behind me at the check-out. The brat wouldn't stop spinning in circles, running around (and thus running into me) or both. More than once I glared at the kid, and I said something to the mother, who looked at me like I was on drugs.

When I was a toddler, like the brat was, my mom and dad never put up with that kind of behavior from me. Granted, toddlers are bratty period, but still, parents should start disciplining their children at that age. My parents would take me out to the car if I misbehaved, threw a tantrum, or embarrassed them, and when we got home, I was sent to my room for a time-out. If my bad behavior persisted, I got spanked. Spankings were rare, because I understood that if I was a bad little girl, I'd get a smack on the backside. My parents never beat me -- a single, open-handed smack on the backside is not child abuse, people. Yes, it causes fear, but children do learn that if they behave, they won't get spanked.

Part of this thing about parents not raising their kids right deals with what I just mentioned: spanking. People are so against child-abuse (I don't blame anyone for that, but it brings about misunderstandings and such) that parents who know to discipline their children are scared to because someone will think that when the child is spanked once, the parent is abusing their kid. Also, parents are losing their children to society.

Kids learn to smoke, drink and be brats because their parents are setting the example, or they have older siblings/cousins who've moved out and such. My older half-brother died when he was a baby, and my older cousins live far away, so I don't have any peers (so to speak) to influence me. The decisions I've made so far in life have been based on my parents' flaws and decencies, as well as how involved they've been in my life.

I'm appalled by my generation and this new generation. We can blame the media, we can blame society, but parents, families are most responsible, first and foremost. It is their job to raise the children, not the media's, not society's. Yes, there are kids who are lost causes, but they still need their parents to at least attempt to "save" them before they hit adolescence or turn 18.

I think alot of parents aren't doing their jobs, in some ways, but it's not totally their fault for their kids going to jail or doing drugs or any of that, some parents do their best but their kids still do that stuff, my parents did that stuff and i'm against it all. Kids should be put in jail for a amount of time, if under the influence, but inless they cause an accident or kill someone, they shouldn't be in their for a long time, but should be grounded for a while. Also, if you don't throw out the trash, i don't think you should be grounded, unless you don't do it alot and on purpose. I'm just saying, it's part of life, people make mistakes, some make terrible, or horrible mistakes, but theirs a reason it happens, you learn from your mistakes, theirs no certain way a child should be raised. If something bad happens, it's who ever did it, it's their fault, not the parents, the parents can't control them.

Man, I remember my childhood days, when my parents used to schold me. When my little brother was born, he hardly got in trouble and was extremely spoiled. Amazing how much 9 years will do to parenting.

I agree with you so much... I am sick and tired of bratty, unruly, and in some cases even uneducated children. It's not only the manners and behaviors that the parents are failing to instill in their children, but it seems like now they're also too lazy to even teach them. I have members in my family who happen to be this way. My aunt and uncle never worked with my cousins while they were learning their numbers and letters. But, when they were held back a year because they didn't learn any of it, they said that the teacher hadn't done their job correctly.

It's so much more than parenting though. My brother and I are both adopted, and from seperate original families. We were brought up by the same loving and excellent parents (thanks mom and dad!) but are actually totally different. I'm far quieter and more considerate than he is, but actually way too shy. He left school at 16 and got a job whereas I am 22 and unemployed, writing stories and getting them printed in periodicals and other things for moderate fees.

Neither of my parents smoke, drink or anything, but Adam smokes and drinks and I drink. That's because of our friends though - his friends all smoke so he ended up like that, whereas none of my friends really do.

Adam always liked the mechanical side of things and is very physical whereas I love nature and philosophy. We went to the same schools too, by the way. My dad does like mechanical things a little, but neither of my parents have an interest in philosophy or any of the other things that I like. I just picked them up myself.

But each of our biological parents seem to have influenced us even though we were adopted before our first birthdays.

If you're gonna blame something, blame culture. That has far more sway over kids than parents, teachers or even genetics.

I agree alot but your also running away from the fact and blamming parents for everything. I'm not a parent but I well know parents are not gods. They don't see everything you can't say to them how well do you even know your own child and curse at them for not knowing anything. Yet it's you who are the one who put up some BS goodie act in front of them of hem alot and pretend nothing is wrong. If they ask you refuse to tell them. If they pursist you say there calling you a lier. It's easy to blame them because your parents. Yes I agree there suppost to teach you everything in life, raise you, care for you, don't let you do what every you want. But don't expect them to teach you everything! stop leaning on them! stop expecting them to always be there for you and when there not simply blame everything on them. They not gods, there not the police, there parents. It's easy to blame them for what they havn't done, but have you though about what havn't you done? You say the parent lets her daught to the rave party....so what? Bet she never told her where or what the party was. And if the parent ask you think she'll tell her mom or dad? come on, i doubt she would. And then what do you expect, her dad to stalk her everytime she goes out to do something? thats alot of time wasted and you expecting a little bit much if you ask me. I agree alot of parents arn't doing there job properly sure. But what is there job....realy? is it to care? to guild? to protect? or all of the above? and why....because socity...TV and our surrondings have mold us to believe it? is it right? is it wrong? does taht mean as socity changes with our beliefs there job and what there expected to do change as well as a parent? A parent isn't your somebody to to expect to little or to much from. there there to guild you, and you have to remeber you ahve to learn things on your own. If you go to a rave party, do drugs or get beat up. Don't go crying to your mom saying "why did you let me do drugs and go to a party" Well hmm....lets see. If a parents held EVERYTHING back you ever wanted to do....who's life would it be? yours? or theres? You have to learn from your own mistakes and stand on your own two feet. And yes alot of kids end up on the street nowa days because of bad parenting. But the kids are to blame just as much as the parents.

And you mentions in there late 20's and 30's i'd think they;d be kinda scewed up. If they followed the fact, always invade there privacy, make sure they don't hang out with a bad crowd. Lemme tell ask you something. What is a bad crowed? a smoker? druggy? how can they tell? Lemme tell you something, there is no "bad crowd" in this world. It's what modern socity refus's to accept. If you label everybody who doesn't fit your standards or what you like. Then I assure you alot of people in this world are goin to end up on the streets. I agree you job isn't to be a friend. but you are suppost to be a loving parents. From the way your discribing a parent isn't a parent in my eyes but a slaver driver...master... i kid gets good grades from a parent like that sure. But in the end they might get worste grades from how your demands things on them, no freedom...and most imporantly over grades. A parents trust and love. let me say that word one more time "TRUST"

Most of the people who disagree with my post are children themselves. Also, most of them don't know how to read. This goes out to you, kira-sama and alexjohn -- I never said every child was a dumbass, and if you read my post thoroughly, you'd have seen that.

And to some other, of course parent's aren't fully to blame, but they make up... ooo... 99% of the blame. The other one percent being split up between culture and friends. Once again, if a child was raised properly, they wouldn't be wooed much by culture or friends.

Rinslet, at 15, I'd expect a 15 year old to know what's wrong and what's right, but that doesn't mean they're going to care. Children think they're invincible, that nothing will ever happen to them. They're irresponsible, in the nutshell. And at 15, the MOTHER should be deciding whether or not her daughter is to attend a rave, not the daughter.

cloud811.. I'm glad you speak english. Anywho, a parent DOESN'T have to trust their child. Trust is EARNED. It is not a given. Given that children are notorious for ending up in bad situations, a parent can not and should not blindly trust their child. In the case of the rave, if the 15 year old was shot, there's no second chance for her. One mistake and it could've been final. Then what?

And there is a bad crowd. It's the smokers, the drinkers, the kids who steal. It's illegal and it's wrong. I think you're only defending them because you're a part of them.

You do have to learn from your own mistakes but somebody who had the correct teaching won't make many mistakes in the first place. A child who has a good head on his or her shoulders won't fall to peer pressure and take up smoking pot. A child who is confident and intelligent won't resort to cutting classes, because they're mature..

You might think of what a true parent should be as being a slave driver, but that's an immature point of view that's been reflected in your post already. A loving parent isn't one who lets their child get away with murder.