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Nuriko

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As of Saturday, January 15th ~1600 GMT all non-credited scans will be considered in violation of MT policy and will be deleted.

MT Policy: "If you post a scan that was not made by you, provide credits to the best of your knowledge." You MUST specify whether or not the scan was done by you!
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What you agree to if you submit a scan: " You choose your submission was of type scan. Hereby you agree to have written proper credit to the source you took the scan from if it is not your property.
Be mindful that while submitting it to this community the scan still falls under your property to maintain. Minitokyo keeps the right to delete your scan at any time without notification. Minitokyo is not responsible for your scan may you get involved in juridical issues."

...barring the hand of God, Sheqel or Keltosh, that is.

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Quote by Nuriko
...barring the hand of God, Sheqel or Keltosh, that is.


when did this happen? ^^

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Okay - I'm right onto it - thanks for the early notification.

Quote by NurikoAs of Saturday, January 16th ~1600 PST all non-credited scans will be
considered in violation of MT policy and will be deleted.
MT Policy: "If you post a scan that was not made by you, provide
credits to the best of your knowledge."

You are referring to the actual website / original creator that hosts it, correct?

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I also suggest that people who have submitted their original scans to MT and did not properly label them redo their descriptions as well, so nothing gets accidently deleted.

Yes, I mean actual websites. As the policy states, to the best of your knowledge. If you don't know, that's fine. But if you do and someone else does, yours can be deleted for someone else's full credit. So, trying to find the source is encouraged.

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I have one final question: If the main source of the scan I retrieved no longer exists, since most of mine are J-Pop Scans, or if the scan used to come from multiple sites that claim to hold it for their own personal display, should I credit this to one of them, because my scans came from an unknown photographer, and I want to know some basic guidelines in what I should do to "properly credit" such individuals, though it is difficult in this case here.

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The only thing we can ask for is a best effort. If you can do it and it's no longer there, credit it anyway. But if you honestly don't know, "I don't know where this came from but I would like to know." is also an acceptable answer.

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Well, at least God has some say in the matter, perhaps ^^;
(sorry - I had to comment on that - I got a good chuckle out of that addition to the bottom).

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  • Jan 10, 2005

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well ... all i can say is that i agree with such deletion of "not my scan; hope you'll enjoy" scans.

but according to the policy we should have written proper credit of the scan ... i think nobody has and never will have them.

so should we delete all our scans ? what's the best option ... ? delete or law suits ?

even the scanning of an owned artbook is anti-copyright ... so ... what type of scans can be done ?

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Great idea Nuri!! We don't want any underhanded members, do we?

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Not my scan, I found it here on bt/moeboard/whatever is accepted.

........
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Great scan!
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post not in english
is not.

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Quote by papyworldwell ... all i can say is that i agree with such deletion of "not my scan; hope you'll enjoy" scans.

but according to the policy we should have written proper credit of the scan ... i think nobody has and never will have them.

so should we delete all our scans ? what's the best option ... ? delete or law suits ?

even the scanning of an owned artbook is anti-copyright ... so ... what type of scans can be done ?

Most places consider having scans up a form of "free advertising" for their product so most don't mind. If a company were to email MT and say "Take down your xxxxxxxx scans" we would instantly. But as you can tell. nobody has.

Fanarts from people submitted here is hard on a lot of Japanese people. Doujinshi creators need money to do what they do and posting them online is another issue.

It's better to be safe than sorry. MT is trying to remain a upscale community, and this is a step in that goal.

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Have to say that it's about time this policy was put into effect. Those of us who actually put the time and money into getting artbooks really get upset by these users that just serf the net and repost other peoples work is really insulting.

It's like taking a test with someone elses books in front of you.

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Quote by Keltoshor post not in english is not.


ROTFL Keltosh XD I saw "warning! The scan is don't deleted jejeje!" o_o
i think it's a good idea ^-^

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Quote by NurikoMost places consider having scans up a form of "free advertising" for their product so most don't mind. If a company were to email MT and say "Take down your xxxxxxxx scans" we would instantly. But as you can tell. nobody has.

It seems it is a Huge "free advertising" here ^_^
for example in suzuhira hiro section ; nearly all her coloured doujin are here ... and all those pics are taken from "not free" CG collection (cd rom fromat or book format). But well it's not the problem.
edit : and i sincerly doubt that the person uploading them have bought them ... but again this is not a problem it is still anti copyright to re-publish them

The problem is , should we stop submitting scans or not ?
mt says it is not responsable for our submissions. So we are the sole to blame ... so what have we to do ? leave all as it is and hope that we won't be attacked by some lawyer ?

well for me , it is good to have samples as you said ... but i doubt every company will think that. I just hope we won't have problem one days. Because it is written we are personnaly responsable ...

what is your opinion ?

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Bye bye Noctum, huh? =P

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Quote by JinzhouBye bye Noctum, huh? =P

owch ... i think he often refers his scan as coming from 4chan

by the way mister moderator jin , what do you think about this "legal problem about scan"

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Quote by JinzhouBye bye Noctum, huh? =P

Ever since this rule was applied to MT, I always referred to the place I got the scan from, that it wasn't mine or that I scanned it myself. I even provided a link to the page of its creator, whenever I knew about it.

All I have to do, is add an explanation to those scans, which I posted before.
I see lots of work heading my way. -_-

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what if we don't remember where we got the scan?

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i support noctum ; all scans i have seen from him were well commented and have referencies to sites.
and he sure shares the most beautiful scans of this place.

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Quote by Twinfishwhat if we don't remember where we got the scan?

....Read the thread.

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Quote by JinzhouBye bye Noctum, huh? =P

:rushes to download Noctum's scans:
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im not sure about "God" interfering, but Noctum sure is the "god of scans". lol

policy makes perfect sense, can't imagine some1 arguing with it. :hopes:

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What's the urgency? Has MT received any legal threats? Is there a disk space crisis? This is certainly important, but

To me, it would seem only fair to send each offender a PM so they're sure not to miss the warning (threads are easy to miss), and then give them a week to fix their posts after being notified.

We're going to lose a lot of great scans unnecessarily if this is done in a draconian manner.

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  • Jan 10, 2005

Jinzhou

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Quote by Noctum

Quote by JinzhouBye bye Noctum, huh? =P

Ever since this rule was applied to MT, I always referred to the place I got the scan from, that it wasn't mine or that I scanned it myself. I even provided a link to the page of its creator, whenever I knew about it.
All I have to do, is add an explanation to those scans, which I posted before.
I see lots of work heading my way. -_-

Lol, you know me Noct, I'm just messing with you.

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Nuriko

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The "urgency" is the new policy update as well as notices that have been around for months. We (mods) have been noticing that people are still uploading scans with "..................." and "cooooooooooooooooooooooool" and we need to make sure people are on the same page.

I don't give a flying if scans are lost in this if it protects the people that actually scanned the work.

I also seem to think people don't know what moderators actually do. We're not here to clean up after people like horses in a street. I don't have the time to PM every person who fails to not read the rules they agree to every time they submit a scan.

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