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can anybody help me how to comfrot or advice my pal? ><

cerena

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well yea, as i ask it is about my net pal... i got one who really has negative thinking. i mean my pal always think that everyone hates her, she is so unlucky and very stupid everything negative that she thinks about herself . THen, i always persue her not to think like that and give an advicement but it seems didn't work.... does anybody can give me how to comfrot kind of frenz like that? she is lonely and yeah our distance is very far *net frenz* i wanna try to be her close frenz well at least let her believe that life is not as bad as she thinks....

PLZZZZ, anybody, somebody. tell me what should i do... we just chatting in msnm but we know each other quite long time already.

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Tell her that she has you. If you comfort her with your words, then maybe she can pull through from her negative thoughts. Tell her that melmachine18 wants to help as well! :)

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Quote by melmachine18Tell her that she has you. If you comfort her with your words, then maybe she can pull through from her negative thoughts. Tell her that melmachine18 wants to help as well! :)

thanks melmachine18. but i already ask her to think about happy things and i will support everything she does... but she said she doesn't have any happy things.... ~~ and ever said that chat with me also part of sad things.... (is that mean she always confess the sad things to me?) still she is living in the "black world"

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Quote by melmachine18Tell her that she has you. If you comfort her with your words, then maybe she can pull through from her negative thoughts.

i agree with melmachine18... tho sometimes it helps to share some stories with her if you've ever been depressed... and hey... a funny quote or dirty joke always works for me when i'm cheering up a friend that is down... :D if i can (and if you wanted) i'll help out as well! :)

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Hey that's not a bad idea, you could explain to her that people care about her well-being without even knowing her; maybe she'll see that there are actually a few good people in the world. I've known a lot of people online and had some very bad and very good situations, so I've been in the same position as you. I guess what I'd say is tell her to look towards the future, and make sure you give her a good image for it, (that's how I survive, that and anime). I really don't know her obviously so I don't know exactly what she needs to hear. I hope I've helped a little bit even if it's to open your mind. Best of luck.

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OO i may know how your friends feel. I went through a period where no matter how sweet and loving the things people said were....i didn't believe them. You kinda give up hope and just push it all out. You just have to not give up on her. It may be harder then it sounds, but if you want to be a true friend you'll find a way to get through it. I mean from just talking you'll learn what lines not to corss and everything. You may get into a couple of fights but you have to just keep showing her there is someone to talk to. By the time i relized everyone wasn't lying and truely gave a shit it was too late and made even more of a mess. So yay. even online friend can help. I am only recently starting to talk to some people, but if you could read some of m blog and LJ entries i'm not really too abundant on freinds. So that's prbally all she needs is aa friend. Even though she may deny it. Just try to talk about things you know she enjoys...if she wants to complain let her and sympathize...but don't take pity on her. And if she starts to say weird things...well that you might have to take as it comes.

I hope that was helpful and hopefully she'll come around eventually ^^ I wish you luck!

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On the previous forum I was in, most of my fellow veterans were like that. Always negative thoughts. Always down. I think they liked being unhappy...being able to complain and be moody. They would base their happiness on things like being able to talk to their online friends daily and other temporary things.

i had some question session like conversations with one of them and tried to understand why they were so often in a sad funk. He didn't see what was so great about his life. Baffled, I tried to think about why I loved life. It's something I never really thought about since it came naturally to me. We talked about our views and he sticked to his own.

It's obvious that we can't forcefully change the way other people thing or act. So..I guess I didn't actually give a solution to your problem. But I empathize with you. And when a solution or tactic presents itself, I'll be sure to drop by.

One random idea: When some of my friends and I know we're going to have a bad day, we resolve not to. This way, we don't get bummed by every trivial thing. Only the big things affect us, and with our resolve and less unhappy baggage [from not being sad about the little things], even the big things can be handled better. Perhaps that might trigger something for you? Sorry ^^; I'm not good with words and explaining.

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There could be a variety of reasons for her behavior.
- attention-seeking: For every time she says something bad about herself, you devote all your attention to her. You are even talking about her on a largish forum.
- pessimistic: Some people are naturally pessimistic; they always look at the negative side of things. I used to be one of these people, and still am in some ways. Maybe she is looking for an optimistic person (aka you) to give a more pleasant viewpoint on things.
- depression: This could be brought on by a variety of things. Have her write a list of things that are bugging her and are making her upset. If she can fix the things that are bad, have her do that. For example, doing bad in school. Her solution could be to see a tutor. However, she may be so depressed that she needs professional help. It could be anything from hormone imbalance (very common in teen girls... im assuming she is around that age) to something deeper down. A doctor or a councelor can help figure that out.

Good luck! Remember, though you care for her, don't bring yourself down with her. If she is going to continue like this, and you are finding yourself physically and mentally strained because of it, maybe it's time to step back and re-evaluate your friendship with her.

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i agree with taffystar on this : we can't forcefully change someone... some people just like to be moody, i know, i used to be like that... life was a pain, i didn't have friends i could talk to or count on... and the people i hung around were back stabbers... so everything just became really negative, and just felt like nothing good could come out of my life... that i wasn't worth anything... i don't know what happened to make me change, and make me become more cheerful... i guess, meeting people i could trust, without being judged by them... now i'm more optimistic, i'm still a loner, i don't have many friends, but those i have i can count on, if they can't help, at least they listen...

so the only advise i can give you, is stick by her side, keep reminding she has a friend she can count and make sure she knows she can talk to you... you'll need patience though... but it's not a sure thing, it never is, it depends on the person as well
i'm sorry, i wish i could help more... but don't lose hope kay, coz if you do, then the fight is lost... good luck

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Quote by Ayamaelso the only advise i can give you, is stick by her side, keep
reminding she has a friend she can count and make sure she knows she
can talk to you... you'll need patience though... but it's not a sure
thing, it never is, it depends on the person as well i'm sorry, i wish
i could help more... but don't lose hope kay, coz if you do, then the
fight is lost... good luck


I have to agree with this as well...in fact I'm facing a similar problem too with another friend and the only way I've dealt with it is to stick with said friend through the good and bad making sure they know I'm always there if they need me...it's not easy to go through life without friends and what they probably need more is the reassurance that they do have friends and they will be there if called upon...the problem though is how long you are willing to try because most gave up on me when I most needed them most...and I'm making sure I won't make that mistake when I help my friends...even if it'll take all lifetime...as long as they need me I will be there for them

as taffy said though...don't pressure them to changing...they have to change on their own to look at things more positively. one will only act if they know the problem, so if you wish to help it might be better if you only show them the path...they will have to decide then...whether they walk it...or not ...oh don't forget to be there for them while they walk the path XP

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thank q so much, all. well yeah. i agree that yup. we cannot force think the same as our. it just i wanna let her not to think so negative that can make her life worse... i know that too. most people are lonesome and i'm one of the kind. then i got net pals and i relieved a lot and i wanna let her know that her frenz got lot if u wanna find. sometimes i find hard to talk to her when she talked likes she doesn't like me advising her. ~~ i know sometimes i can be too talkative like a MAMA but i want her good. that's why i confused... well yeah i ever told that if u got prob just share to me... anytime when i'm ol... but most of the time is me who call her first... sometimes she ignoring me without excuses and sometimes she can chat some of her probs and i gave her solution... i wonder if i's brothering her..... ~~

i advice her and told her that not all people hate her... for example me who still wanna chat with her.... and i know some frenz also wanna talk with her... but she feel it nonsense i guess

do u think what i'm done is right?

p.s: most of us are so alike... ^^; my is most of lonesome people playing net to cure our feeling? yeah in reality, i got no best pal at all ~~ when i need them, donno where they go....

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Quote by cerenawell yea, as i ask it is about my net pal... i got one who really has negative thinking. i mean my pal always think that everyone hates her, she is so unlucky and very stupid everything negative that she thinks about herself . THen, i always persue her not to think like that and give an advicement but it seems didn't work.... does anybody can give me how to comfrot kind of frenz like that? she is lonely and yeah our distance is very far *net frenz* i wanna try to be her close frenz well at least let her believe that life is not as bad as she thinks....
plzzzz, anybody, somebody. tell me what should i do... we just chatting in msnm but we know each other quite long time already.


I know friends who are somewhat like that. The only thing I do is to remind them that they're not stupid or anything... that they have me. It's hard to deal with that kind though...

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This could be going too far depending on a lot but you might consider suggesting participating in the forums here? I haven't been here too long but all my experiences other than submissions, which I've learned from, have been good ones and most people here seem warm, kind, and intelligent.

Besides that light suggestion I have the feeling you are a good person and you will undoubtedly do the right thing. I know that I, myself, am a stubborn person and will never say when asked how I am "I'm doing good." I say "I'm OK" or something to a more depressive effect. Perhaps she's thinking about some things you say and has an immediate respose that she eventually doesn't truly believe.

In the end just keep being there for her; sometimes listening is all you can do and it makes a difference you wouldn't expect it to.

Again, best of luck.

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Quote by cerena
i advice her and told her that not all people hate her... for example
me who still wanna chat with her.... and i know some frenz also wanna
talk with her... but she feel it nonsense i guess
do u think what i'm done is right?


I guess the main thing is just trying to be there for her...yes you can advise but she has to find out that no one hates her by herself...and as far as I know...the only way you can do that is not by giving up and sticking to her with her friends...if she sees that her friends are with her wherever she goes...then and only then will she realise that she had been wrong by thinking that she had no friends...that's what I think anyway

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I think you should tell her not to be so negative and cheer up ^_^lifes not about always
feeling sad for yourself you gotta throw all the sad,angry memories away and make happy
ones tell her you'll always be there for her and that she shouldn't feel bad about herself
cause there are many people that love her ^_^ tell her that she needs to smile more and
do her best to fight this sadness thats come over her she has to blow those dark clouds
away and realize the sun is always shining for her ^_^ I'm sure she's muched loved and I
know she'll feel better as long as you stay near her lifes too short to worry about things
like no one loves or I'm all alone it's all about determination and will no one should ever
suffer or be unhappy so tell your friend you love her and that she'll never be alone be cause
your here with her and in a way we all are =^_^= and I'm sure that we all wish the best for her I hope she comes to know that she's loved deeply I've had the same situation with a friend before and well lets just say he's smile more then ever now ^_^ hope the best for you and your friend *hugs* and remember to smile

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It would seem to me like youv'e most defeintly gotten quiet a bit of help.....but i'll but my two cents in...why not?

Well...I've been in BOTH positions....and as crazy as it sounds...Sometimes.....You need to fight with them..in order to prove to them.. You love them. and you care about them. and yoru there for them. the more the say No No one loves me.....is the more u have to say to them.Why do u say that? I love you> Im there for you.Get down to the blunt honst point....Even if thye dont like it....

I've been very down before...But i always had soemone stick by me....and im very grateful for that....they had to fight with me at times and at times blunty say something to me no matter how painful it was...In the end it helped me get up again....adn to be honest looking back now.....Yeah those times sucked...but because of those people who stuck by me and made it there mission to make me crack a smile and soemwhat laugh.....Those times dont' seem that bad anymore in fact....a lot of good came out of it.

Just as i've done with other friends.......the same. You just have to know when to say things...when to be funny..... when to be serious....when to state ur arguement...and not get mad at the person.. and odnt be sorry about what u said for the mostpart..and above all...stick by them....Let them rant and rave...because we all have to vent....let them .know you are more then willing to listen to them..sympathize with them and just BE there for them....and make them laugh afterwards...talk about common intrests.....Keep there mind off stuff after it's been let out....It all helps...

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thank q so much for ur suggestion, all. and TranceIon who said i'm a good person... ahaha i don think that i'm that good but i know this is my part for helping frenz... i'm not showing off but i really like to help lonesome coz me too also a lonely girl... i'm surely glad all of u here are so nice and give me so many advices to me... i really appreciate it.. yeah in reality, i don have much frenz too. i really grateful to find this MT site n meet u all.

yeah, i won't give up... and i got idea that i find some people (also net frenz) who know my poor pal and ask them about thier opinion of her. then they will try to chat with her too. ^^ i'm surely glad n they said they like her although she is kinda strict person ^^ i wish i can make my "own promise" as her close pal granted.

if u got any suggestion just plz tell me here... ^^ thank q so much all... now, u all really make me wanna add u all to my friendlist *sob* T_T

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i think what everybody said here is true.. you should just be patient with your friend... tell her if you need help dont hesitate to ask and that you'll always be there.... that should lift her spirit up... and btw i think your pretty good friend...

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hi cerena.. you're a great friend.. like me.. :D
i think you must positioning yourself as her.. so you know detail about her.. you must support her.. tell her that so many things to do in this life.. never negative thinking, because you are what you think..
if you need a friend, just tell me your problems.. and i will help you.. i believe you can do it..

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very thank q to blackhowling and yahoo to give me more suggestion. i will try my best ^^

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