Are your value different from your parents?

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Mordin

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By value I mean, your perspective, political view, religion, principle etc... you get what I mean. I have to say that I have total different value than my parents', we just don't see eye to eye to a lot things. We get into a lot of argument over the news, I guess we have a pretty big generation gap. But I do thank them for allowing me to pursuit my own ideal, because they never discourage me from forming different value than them, although they get really mad sometimes. :) So how about you guys?

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  • Feb 01, 2005

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In a lot of things I differ from my parents in ideology, but I've come to realize that no matter what the differerences in our opinions are, the foundations of thought from which I formed those opinions -- things such as values and other basic assumptions about the nature of the world -- I inherited from them through my upbringing.

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Oh great flying evil monkeys, yes. My mom and stepdad are reactionary evangelical Christians who think the world is 4000 years old. Both my sister and I have gone in totally the opposite direction, complete with liberal beliefs and donations to charities other than "the church." My dad has since passed away, but when he was alive we never saw eye to eye, mostly because he was an arrogant asshole who always had to be right.

  • Feb 01, 2005

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My parents believe that God will come through for them, but I'm sort of an agnostic. I don't know where I stand right now, but that does not mean that I will forget what I learned from my parents.

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  • Feb 01, 2005
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It really depends on how we were brought up and our surroundings. For me, values related to music and fashion are pretty different. Due to the generation gap, where their surroundings were different and the way they were brought up were different. But I find values on political, religion, society are pretty along the same lines. Perhaps that is due to how they influenced us during our upbringing. If there are ever conflicts, the best way is to try to work out a compromise...

  • Feb 01, 2005

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Considering my parents are very strict, they do push off enough room just for me to accept what I believe in. That's what I like about my parents. Even though we are departed from a 3rd known generation of offsprings, me being the 4th generation off our own independent family, my parents don't really have much to put on the table when it sets to certain ideologies.

My mother is obviously the more stricter of the two - my dad is carefree and drinks alcohol while slacking off from time to time. He once had been a domestic abuser, but over time, he has changed and that's what I like about people like him - he was willing to change himself and now we just go along our separate ways. I love my mother of course. We share similar ideas - no porn, believing that almost all men are being pervs. That sort of stuff - though I'm more serious about not opening my intertests to others as my mom would have liked me to have been.

I'm more of a flower child with nothing much set in mind. I'm a catholic who doesn't believe the Bible word for word. I'm a realist in the sense that whatever I see is what I truly believe in front of my own eyes - unless its magic which I know isn't even closely remote to realistic.

I'm a liberalist when it comes to changes, and a feminist for fighting women's rights to be treated in the task force equally as men can, or even better to a certain extent. My parents still love me - and although I believe highly in good morales, there are some things we tend to disagree on - but only very little as a matter of fact. When it comes to religion, violence, and the sorts, we agree on pretty much almost everything.

The points about who should take responsibilities and the sorts are a little different. But like I said - we hardly disagree on anything because we don't set up any serious rules in place of morales. That must be the reason why I can't come up with anything good other than to say I am different from my parents somewhat for the better, but at the same time I could be thinking the same way my parents are thinking as well.

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so far i've pretty much fallen close the apple tree.

my parents kinda disagree on thins with each other so i end up agreeing with one or the other. nothing like, life altering. just random things, you know?

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Quote by shinsengumiIn a lot of things I differ from my parents in ideology, but I've come
to realize that no matter what the differerences in our opinions are,
the foundations of thought from which I formed those opinions -- things
such as values and other basic assumptions about the nature of the
world -- I inherited from them through my upbringing.

The more I get to know you shinsengumi, the more your eloquent way to express your thoughts impressives me. I have got to read one of your college paper one of these days to compare notes, since I was a political science major which is very close to government. It is going to be a fascinating read. :)

Quote by miketoOh great flying evil monkeys, yes. My mom and stepdad are reactionary
evangelical Christians who think the world is 4000 years old. Both my
sister and I have gone in totally the opposite direction, complete with
liberal beliefs and donations to charities other than "the church." My
dad has since passed away, but when he was alive we never saw eye to
eye, mostly because he was an arrogant asshole who always had to be
right.

Well it is pretty hard to compromise one's value when you get in age. I found that the more I get older the less likely I will concede my value unless some really drastic event changes that. Because I trust my experience more than the words of others no matter how close I am to them. I guess your dad is the same way, miketo.

Quote by CelessaWe share similar ideas - no porn, believing that almost all men are being pervs.

ROFL oh man, that is some insight your mom and daughter team had about men there. :D I guess it isn't entirely false generally speaking, but there are a lot of us that are good and decent out there, so you gals shouldn't give up on us yet.

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  • Feb 01, 2005

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lol - that's why I like to keep my options fresh and open - like I quoted to miketo when he made his comment on another thread.

I've encountered too many boys through bad experiences that I came up with such a harsh conclusion. My mom agreed. We're bad - I know. lol

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I'm so different from them and the way I think is way way way... I could keep going on but it way different from they way of thinking. The only thing I got from them are my face but then again I may not look like them when I grow up. :)

  • Feb 01, 2005

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i'm very open to certain ideals but my values are completely differnt then those of my parents i take my friends over family and i know some people agree also. plus i wanted to get a degree in something with computers but their telling me to become a dentist as for me a biologist, instead o well either way the every job usually becomes a teaching job well nm here later

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  • Feb 01, 2005
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Pretty much the same ideals and morals as my parents and I like it that way. One thing I can think of that I differ in opinion on with my father [sorry so many prepositions ^^;] is on the idea and showing of pride.

  • Feb 01, 2005

MadWiz

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I have a slightly similar thinking to my mother's but I don't really know about my father's cause we rarely communicate
all of us follow no religion
and with me and my mother we are both very open and talk about a lot of things.. but shes like hardworking and stuff and would always tell me to do work but I have the mentality of leaving things to the next day since its so little I don't want to spend time to do but when enough pile up then I start doing..
theres still the generation gap somehow but I think my problem is usually with teachers and the rest rather than with my parents or mainly my mother

  • Feb 01, 2005

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>.< VERY different. All they want me to do right now is:
1. get a better job (dude i'm 14!!! its already good that i HAVE one already...)
2. do homeword 24/7
3. no computers except for homework purposes
4. pursue a career that makes money, not something i enjoy

i value friends over job ^^ and the hate the fact i think that. I'd rather make each minute special (like doing something with my friends, or doing something that i like) rather than work work work... but maybe thats just me ^^

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my parents have tradition family values but are a bit prejudice like many azn elders...me...i got love for all XP hehe but im ok with slacking and procrastination and stuff as long as you do your work...them...work work work...that all i ever hear...well other than "get off your lazy a** you lazy bum...gawd...i think we took home the wrong kid from the hospitol sometimes" lol...oh well

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  • Feb 02, 2005
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Quote by MordinWell it is pretty hard to compromise one's value when you get in age. I found that the more I get older the less likely I will concede my value unless some really drastic event changes that.

You've hit the nail on the head, Mordin. Unless people experience a life-changing event, most people's values and morals are fixed. F'rinstance, you "can't stand gays" -- until you find your brother / sister / best friend is homosexual. What do you do? Stick to your values and destroy a relationship, or re-evaluate your beliefs?

With my folks, they have never suffered a life-changing event. Things have been very cushy for them in Middle America, so there is no reason to conduct a re-evaluation. Personally I believe that any unexamined beliefs aren't worth the words used to express them. I love my mom and step-dad, they love me, but we have fundamental (pun intended) differences in moral outlook.

  • Feb 02, 2005

Mordin

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Quote by miketoPersonally I believe that any unexamined beliefs aren't worth the words used to express them.

Well said, I agree totally. A beliefs need to stand the test of time, and like everything, nothing is on solid ground to begin with. We need to slowly build it up like Pyramids, so to have a arrgoant or stubborn attitude about it would be naive.

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  • Feb 02, 2005

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They both think im too boyish..
They dont exactly mind... but they sometimes encourage me to do girlish things or stop me from doing some really boyish things... darnit.

Though my mom confessed she was like that when she was my age too.. XD weird
My dad whenever he asks someone to teach me, help me, etc, and the person HAS to be a stranger, its always a girl / woman -_-
darnit, he knows i more confortable talking to guys -_-
he's kinda a sexist (theres nothing i hate more in the world than sexists)
but, hey, he's my dad. i cant hate him

I have to say though, my mom is more like me, she knows why im crazy of games and anime so much (she plays Ragnarok Online, and VErY VERY occasionally watches some anime)

but overall, i guess im satisfied enough ^^

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Quote by shinsengumiIn a lot of things I differ from my parents in ideology, but I've come
to realize that no matter what the differerences in our opinions are,
the foundations of thought from which I formed those opinions -- things
such as values and other basic assumptions about the nature of the
world -- I inherited from them through my upbringing.


I absolutely agree!
In my case, my parents and I came to rather different ideological conclusions. My dad says I'm a "hatchet-toting liberal." :P
Oddly, my dad is more of a feminist than my mom. My mom actually says "This needs to be fixed. Where's a man?" Drives me nuts. My dad thinks this is rather ridiculous, and thinks that I am perfectly capable of fixing stuff by myself. It's just a matter of learning.
I had some serious battles with both of them when I was a teenager, but after I went to college things smoothed themselves out. Now I actually call them and ask for advice - something I'd never have done when I was 17. Parents have more miles on them, they've had more experiences, and that's really valuable. But that still doesn't mean that they're always right.
It seems to help smooth the waters when your parents realize that they're offering advice, not marching orders.

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  • Feb 02, 2005

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Totally different ,and better.

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  • Feb 02, 2005

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Quote by CelessaWe share similar ideas - no porn, believing that almost all men
are being pervs.


^_^' ehhh why do yo say that?? *hides hentai cd's from Celessa* >_< see? nothing in here - I'm a clean guy

Both my mom and I (no dad here, my parents are divorced) have the same value, really similar, but the funny thing here is that we came up with them in a very different way. She's kinda religious, reads the bible, has picture frames about religious events (ie, the last dinner) etc, so she has a lot of faith in believing that God is here to help her, so she tries to do her best. I'm not that religious, but rather rationalist - i believe i have to behave in here to get a nice reaction from the rest of the people here not in heaven or afterlife.

  • Feb 02, 2005
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My parents and I share the same belief and morals, but that is where it ends. When it comes to politics and other issues, we just don't see eye to eye.

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  • Feb 02, 2005

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Well i think fundamentally our beleifs are very similar, with the major difference being that I'm a little more radical in my view of these beleifs.

just as an example, lets say we read something about a guy who went to prison for speaking out against the government and 'trying to incite revolution'

while my dad and i both beleive in freedom of speech he would say something like "well, the goverment gives us a lot of rights, but when it says you can't do something, you can't do it," while I would be more along the lines of "it doesn't matter if they like it or not, that man has the right to speak his mind." and besides, revolution isn't Evil. as the famous saying goes, a government's only purpose is to serve the people, and when it fails to do so, it should be overthrown. I'm not saying it's gotten to that, but i'm just making a point about the freedom of speech here.

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  • Feb 18, 2005

DarkMaiden1369

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oh yeah^^ I'm the outcast in our family^^ I Hate the government
I'm anti-america and I'm atheist ^^ Inice little combo,. Most
of my family are Catholics and they dont liek the fact im athiest but they can shove
it b/c I don't care to much for them anyway^^' plus everyone in family sayd im the cold
heartless.....well you get the rest^^ but I'm fine with my views and I think i'm very understanding of others points of views, I'm always up to learn something new^^

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