Quote by miketoFor me, ecchi is
just plain ridiculous. There is nothing erotic or
suggestive, just a blatant attempt to appear so.
I haven't studied it, but from what little I know about anime, manga,
and Japanese culture, ecchi is a natural outgrowth of "the culture of
cute" which is so prevalent in Japan. Sociologists have hypothesized
that this is due to a desire to return to early childhood, when
Japanese children are innocent, free to do everything, and their
parents loved them unconditionally. Once they reach school age, the
full weight of Japanese cultural conformity and drive to succeed (and
not bring shame on the family) hits hard, and the warmth of innocence
quickly melts away.
Now when this crosses with the typical adult sex drive, the artists out
there create a synergy between the two, where it is possible to be
cute, innocent, and yet sexually appealing. Thus all the ecchi, panty
shots, and eight-year-old faces on twenty-year-old bodies.
A lot of interest in ecchi can also be attributed to the adolescent sex
drive awakening, and the curiosity that comes along with it. Young kids
are naturally curious, and ecchi gives them a safe way to explore the
new feelings and interests without stepping outside of societal norms.
But I agree with Celessa in that the overall effect objectifies women
and reduces them to little more than sex dolls. As I mentioned earlier,
seeing a girl wearing panties just isn't interesting -- gee, girls wear
underwear. Quelle surprise! But there are a lot of young boys
out there popping a woody over it, and I think the time would be much
better spent socializing with real women rather than fantasizing about
cartoon babydolls.
Hentai is somewhat different, and it is targeted at a different
audience. I'll just say that I find tentacle rape frightening, not
funny, probably because I've known too many women who have been raped
and I find the concept disturbing in the utmost.
lol - it does degrade girls to an extent that men
believe these girls are to be only used as their sex toys. You pretty much stated what I would have liked to have said
as well. Some men seriously degrade the social status of the female gender, and its sad how they would do such a thing,
when female beings can be a whole lot more - honestly.
Quote by miketoBut there are a
lot of young boys
out there popping a woody over it, and I think the time would be much
better spent socializing with real women rather than fantasizing about
cartoon babydolls.
lol - some boys have yet to see that. In reality, girls aren't going to be
around, showing off panties in the sorts, and having the boys come by and take a look. That's definitely wrong, and
some of them need to snap out of it when it comes to real life. Fantasizing about cartoon babydolls - I don't want
to know. lol
Quote by tuxedotservoReally? When did it become a matter of sensibility?
Honestly, Celessa - the way your poll question is set up, you can only fall really into two
groups: people who watch and are ashamed of it, or the deviants. That's
fine - it's your poll. It's just not a really open-minded one.
The poll options are just
for fun and aren't seriously taken into context here. Heck, I would have put up an "Other" option and let
people state there point, but I find nothing wrong with my selections, really. If there were more, I'd put it up,
but then again - I find it pretty open as it is. Anyone can vote for it - and you only get to put 5 selections on a
thread, of course - and that can't be helped.
It's obvious though - if you do get caught looking at ecchi - by somebody, anybody, wouldn't you really feel
embarrassed even for just a split moment, then shrug it off?
If you don't like the options being presented and want to state your own view on the matter, go ahead. That's
why people post they believe otherwise, and state their comment there.
The main focus on the poll isn't about lining you into two categories - being an ecchi-lover and proud of it, or a
person who looks at ecchi, even accidently and is ashamed - it's pretty much how you would feel if you get caught
looking at ecchi pretty much. And the situation changes at hand - normally, how would you react if you were to be put
into this kind of situation? Really, that's the whole point. There is a lot of grey area to consider as well that I
can't all cover on the polls, necessarily.
Quote by logotomie
Quote by CelessaEcchi is just toeing the line, if it is used in an
indecent manner as I
might say. And some people do consider it harmful, parents especially
towards their little children.
Hmmm. I really would like to know how you get the idea that especially
parents consider ecchi harmfull. I dont know any and a lot of the
people of my age are parents with children around 10 who like to watch
dragonball. They might complain about the "mindless fighting" but never
about the pantyshots or the pig wearing a panty as a hat.
On the net, logotomie, and I know parents
who consider it not suitable for younger children. It's the way they present ecchi - Dragonball never goes into
that kind of serious matter - they can make it look funny. Imagine seeing a girl wearing a bathing suit accidently and
getting a cold hard slap on - that's funny material. But also, picture the way the anime fans go further by posting
up pictures of girls in sites posing off skin and a naughty and sexual way that can perk the curiosity of boys and grown
men? The way present ecchi is considered, and the Internet can make it look bad, really. There's nothing wrong with
good humor in ecchi, but some sites, and perhaps even some shows take ecchi a little - too far, as I might say. But hey
logotomie, I completely understand your point. Some adults don't find it harmful at all, and I respect that. But
some really do - and there's always someone out there to be criticizing on the way it is to be handled - really.
