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Mordin

Mordin

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Quote by CelessaAs I stated earlier, Miketo, Mordin, and shinsengumi are three guys I met up here on MT who are the nice guys - okay, they may be grown up men, but they have class and style.

*Bows to Celessa* Hey princess, you really humble me with such a statement. I think you are giving me too much credit, and to be mention in the same breath as those two is an honor indeed. Hope I don't screw up and make you rethink your statement. :D Anyway, thanks for the vote of confidence princess. :)

Quote by CyanideBlizzardhttp://www.geekloveradio.com/?glr=odetoniceguys
Theres a little food for thought for all the nice guys out there and that they are waiting.
I found this to be a little food for thought myself. Also to give some girls out there a heads up on how the nice guys feel sometimes.

Very true Cy, nice guys may not be flashy or cool, but they are very dependable. It is about time we get some props. And Cy, you are a great guy, and in my book, no one can generalize what kind of man you are because you are an upstanding guy. Hope those foolish gals around you realize that fact soon. :)

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Celessa

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lol gundragon - thanks for reading my post. **Waves** It depends on how you look at things really. Some girls could think the guys are the coolest people on earth. Many think otherwise.

My friend's sister was raped by a torturous sadistic man one time, and the news we heard was quite shocking. He had so many pornography pictures of little girls and mature girls displayed on his website and has written his obsession of degrading women in court.

I wasn't there in the court to witness it, but I've heard many nasty things no doubt, and I just wanted to beat my head with a big pillow and stop believing in things for once. But then when I encountered too many guys who say "Hey good looking," followed by "Bend over" or "Wanna follow her around and take a picture of her?" - I just utterly protested. Good girls get mistreated so many times, that I don't want to go into detail there, really.

"No matter where you go, no matter how tough life may be, just remember that always in your heart, you will still be loved."

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*put on glasses*
If you don't want its why don't you say something about it :)
If you don't want people to do something in a way just said stop or I'll beat the living daylight out of you * Shake fist in the air* :)
If you want something done you have to do it yourself or they will not let their easy catch away. *take off glasse and clean it and put it back on*
If you want your respeat you have to fight for it or it will just be something other then respeat that you have from this kind of people or anyone in the world :)
"In day nor night should you pray to the heaven or the night"
I really don't care about that type of people who rape girls but what I have for them is pity
for this will be something other then a life for them now :) HA HA HA HA *take a moonlight walk in the beach and watch the moon and the night*

Wow this topic has become huge. Nice cutting-edge glasses action there gundragon, lol. There are so many opinions here I won't quote any but I am having an interesting time reading them all. I appreciate your acknowledgements to my own views Miketo, Phl, and especially Celessa. Just want to say this is a great place to see exactly what people think, quite useful to anyone really!

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Celessa

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Celessa

Okaerinasai - Welcome Home

**Puts on her stylish glasses** - Wow, I haven't worn this in quite a while. I apologize for cutting back on some time.**Clears her throat** Erm... lol

Quote by gundragon*put on glasses*
If you don't want its why don't you say something about it :)

We did - it's called the Sylvian Feminist Rights Center located at April Hill Crescent down in Ontario, and it's a small little organization that fights cases for younger girls my age that are pretty much helpless and can't fend for themselves. Over 300 cases have been won over the past few months, and I'm a proud supporter for it. The cases don't necessarily deal with rape cases, or domestic violence, but also the fight for equality of jobs - especially against those men who don't give ladies higher positions - just because they are of the female gender. Most cases we fight are slam-dunk cases with an 80% success rate. I may not be fighting directly for others in the cause, but I'm letting others know that help is actually out there.

Quote by gundragonIf you want your respeat you have to fight for it or it will just be
something other then respeat that you have from this kind of people or
anyone in the world :)

It's out there. That's what democracy is for. **Cleans her glasses** Girls need the attention they deserve and there have been sites on the web that have been shut down regarding the status of how girls are to be treated around here.

Respect? Just like the minority fighting for respect against the majority, so are we females doing the same for the majority of dominated men as well. The struggle is one, but the same at time. I'm not saying that we want to overpower the males, but we are building a guideline that states that women who are equally of potential or more should earn their positions in the workforce as well. When it boils down to the final conclusion - any human being should have the right to get what they deserve, regardless of their gender or nationality.

Quote by gundragonI really don't care about that type of people who rape girls but what I have for them is pity

Pity? Sometimes I wonder the course of actions they take, truly - and they don't deserve pity in my opinion. Although, some have lived their own lives and some turn of event caused them to somehow psychologically think this sort of way, it can't be helped. It's too obvious. When you rape someone, it's a serious crime. Even if you don't mean it, believe me, you know that what you are doing is wrong - and females deserve respect for such privacy. There has been times when females have misused the rape term to get back at certain people as well, and I'm sure men detest that females can be so mischievous in such a way, but thinking about my friend's sister's case in particular, there's no doubt that what the guy did was absolutely wrong, and should be punished, without a doubt. I could bring up very similar points, but I'm not going to go there.

Pretty much, girls have their own stand on such an issue here. Some of the males just go too far, and for sadistic reaasons - we may never know why they would act such a way, really. I don't know what those poor victimized girls did to do deserve such a thing.

"No matter where you go, no matter how tough life may be, just remember that always in your heart, you will still be loved."

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riceblade

shiawase no tame ganbarimasu!

I as a male feel quite sad that there are such terrible men out there. but reality is reality...however those are only a small minority. The truth is most guys are actually nice people who will do anything for the person they love...

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Kwadjo

zionist

Put it this way cat, As long as irrationality does exist it can exist. Thus youll see humans doing irrational things. I repeat humans. Here something to think about. Would guys look for good looking girls if girls didn't spend so mcuh time trying to look good. I mean make up, come on, now thats an insult to GOD's art work right there. I wouldn't say that men don't encourage feamles to do such vain things, but any women with a human brain can use it and refuse vanity, right. I mean french women dont shave, because their not that ignorant, they stand up for humanity. Like every human should.
I shouldn't even be writing on this topic though, Im a human not a guy. ;)

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Mordin

Mordin

The Wise One

Quote by CelessaRespect? Just like the minority fighting for respect against the majority, so are we females doing the same for the majority of dominated men as well. The struggle is one, but the same at time. I'm not saying that we want to overpower the males, but we are building a guideline that states that women who are equally of potential or more should earn their positions in the workforce as well. When it boils down to the final conclusion - any human being should have the right to get what they deserve, regardless of their gender or nationality.

Hey princess, you made a very good point there. I think it is about time women need to get equal pay compare to men. All other equality in which you spoke of can't be accomplish without some economic fairness between genders. I don't think you want to get less pay for the same job compare to a man right, because it just breaths sterotype and class status. I think women's economic status can overide a lot of sterotypes, because once a woman can be an economic successful in the good old boys club of business, then politics wouldn't be so far behind. I just hope the women's movement don't divert their attention from fighting for more female CEOs and Politician to getting female in sports event. Those are secondary objective. Without any breakthrough, all there is to it is just empty talk. A political correct way of saying the right things doesn't solve anything, only action will.

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boei

**Dark Mood**

wow now that's stereotyping..
most of those things (esp the sexual parts) you said applies only to a certain part of the male population..
and about the good looking girls thing... it's not as if girls are not interested over good looking guys.
Football, hockey? Shopping, Clothes?
Ain't it the same?
Sheesh.

Prelim ExamS!!!!!!!!

followed by finals!!!!!

This is CRAzY!

Cheeky-Peach

Cheeky-Peach

Teh Kitteh Girl

And you know the 'wierd' part....
Celessa is probably a guy...

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>_> I was here about a year ago.

And then I left.
My bad...
But don't worry! I'm back now. ^o^

Quote by Chizukuwaa~! i'm sometimes got annoyed to some guys easily especially in my school... because some of them enjoys playing tricks on girls (including me) >=0!!.... And boys in my school are really really noisy, bossy, lazy, boastful and such.... But some were nice... And sometimes those bad boys make fun with girls that dont look too pretty... they can easily say something that can hurt the person's feelings... i agree to Ms.Celessa in:
Men being obsessed in good-looking girls...
Only a few of them doesnt care about the physical appearance of others... t_t.....
i only have a few trusted guy friends... because... the reasons are there (up)....
I havent have a boyfriend before and im planning not to have one as long as i can know them better... ^_^ bye-bye... gomen ne for being sooo talkative this time..
Jaa-ne~!

I guess they are just kids.. I don't think (and friends I know) in this kind of way.. I don't look "good-looking" girls, they are just simple minded and useless, have not interesting in that at all, yeah like have fun with "girls" as with boys =P no problem at all as long as I'm not the problem

"Theory is knowledge that doesn't work. Practice is when everything works and you don't know why." (Hermann Hesse)

belmikry

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belmikry

belly-button

[rolls up sleeves] well here we go XD
..since i've been told on many occassions that I think like a guy [ ^_^' ] maybe I can provide a bit of insight from a half male/fem perspective? o_0 ...

Quote: Like why are men in general so obsessed with good-looking girls?


horomones have an effect on the brain for each species to basically 'hunt down' the most attractive female- being that in all species, the right proportions/fur/coat/breast size tell the male of her healthiness, if she can bear alot of children or not to branch his 'seed' if you will... this is in the mentality of all males [but not consciously] for our species to survive.... just like females looking for a provider- thats why we look more for a well rounded guy- one who fits everything on our list - smart, funny, head on his shoulders, etc... anyway this horomone driven reaction has been amplified to a female-form dominated media because of our culture.... hope that makes sense... ^_^'

Quote: Do they always drool over perverted pictures and think about panties all the time?

it's not the panties, its what goes in them XP -_-' again, has to do with fertility

Quote: What's with men getting turned on by females looking at female pics, while girls don't do the same for guys?

because western culture [modern culture really in most places, prodominately close minded western tho] has told us that it is wrong for males to look at other males perform. Our culture has always secretely embraced multiple partners- except only in the form of several women-one male. Why? males ruled the world- they had power to do as they pleased, and again- they see visual stimulation as more of a turn on than a females emotiona nd touch stimulation

lol... hope that helps ^+^ of co9urse there are exceptions... these are just theoretical answers... ^_^

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Some final notes from me, because this topic can go around the barn forever and not reach a conclusion.

* Some males never grow out of the phase where everything has to be turned into a sexual joke or innuendo. Instead, they continue to hoot and grunt like a bunch of apes. (Beavis and Butthead, anyone?) This is Celessa's point.

* People who continue to behave like this typically make jokes out of fear or embarrassment. They were raised in an environment where sex and sexual anatomy was considered dirty, nasty, or shameful. These people are incapable of having a normal discussion about anatomy, or have the maturity to realize that such jokes do not lessen the tension but increase it.

* That said, there is a time and a place for such humor. My wife and I tell jokes about sex to each other all the time. However, such jokes are not appropriate around my mom and stepdad, or around their friends the minister and his wife. But I can have mature discussions about genitourinary infections with them because the language and subject matter are appropriate for the audience.

* Lady Celessa, you should be comfortable with whomever you find appealing. There is no reason that you "should" be attracted to an immature boy trapped within a man's body. There are men out there who are kind, considerate, have a spine, have different opinions, and are not afraid to have conversations with women as people rather than as potential objects of conquest. It's almost impossible to find men like that in high school, fairly difficult in college, but once you're out in the real world you'll find them (if you're interested in finding them). This is also partly the reason women tend to be attracted to men older than they are -- the men have matured past the stage where they laugh at the word "penis" and are adults rather than hooting apes.

So that's all from me. Ciao for now.

NachoKun

Patron of Pocky

Being a guy, i can say were fairly simple minded, we let ouy desires and control us more than we should; not that it's a bad thing.

Sure there are some of us that can channel those emotions/hormones better than others (sports, music, art, etc), but in general, we men are somewhat more physically inclined wether it be giving a male friend a noogie, a strong pat on the back, or just plain be aggro.. its basically the best (if only) way we can express mutual respect, understanding and male camaradery.

Now the ways we deal with women, granted, may not be the best, heck 98.6% of us find you women a complete mystery wrapped in an enigma found in the bottom of a liiiitle present box waaaay in the back of the x-mas tree that we just can not find >.<. So many times we try (and fail) to understand you with our usual methods, mostly gaining a harsh look or bitter words because those kinds of attentions are unwanted (well most of the time, some of you do like them every once in a while and in certain situations ;) )

I guess some times we do believe that saying "Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus", but there are moments when we find each other... that's worth all the missunderstandments... but in the meanwhile, i guess we men will be grossing and pissing you off with our usual manly shennanigans ^_^

"As the raven is born of its own, so does kindness beget kindness" ~ Mareg (excerpt from Grandia II )

"Wether it grew from a need for vengeance, or from deciding to run fom something... Strength is still Strength" ~ Satsuki Yotsuba (Negima! Magister Negi Magi)

Quote by artgeek12haha, I actually like Chopstickz answers...

haha my new best friend XD haha but you make it sound like thats a bad thing XD haha this goes for both sexes...we all like to be praised XP

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i feel offended by your post! you talkin like all male human beings are that way! i have to mention that i know many such guys too, but not all. e.g. me dont have a thought on that what youre saying. for me all girls are feeling humans, that get treated like the male too. if i fall in love with somebody, i dont even think of the whole sexuality thing. i just want to be together with that person and have the best time together. nothing about panties or else!

dont put all guys together! there are many of them who are that type you describe, their problem is: they dont experienced real love... if that happens one time, they will never have such thoughts again!

Mordin

Mordin

The Wise One

Quote by Cheeky-PeachAnd you know the 'wierd' part....
Celessa is probably a guy...

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Hey, no need to get nasty here, well if you are being playful then I am sorry for steping in like this and ask forgivness. However, if not here i go: Celessa is just making a general point from her life experience, and I think some point in our live we are all guilty of that don't you say. I don't think she is attacking all guys like some of other poster have suggested. If you disagree with her, make your point in a reasonable manner, don't go down to personal attacks. I am not saying all of you did this, because most of you are very cordial in responding to this thread. Please state your disagreement in the spirit of promoting discussion, not a flame. :)

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SilentMasamune

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I'm all washed up. . .

For the males, we tend to overlook the behavior of females, and thus we jump to conclusions. As stated in the "Understanding the Female Behavior" thread, I made the point that we need to experience the actions of females ourselves. We will not know their true nature unless we observe them more (of course, we have to respect their privacy. You don't want to roll up in the bedroom with an undressed girl inside, especially a dormroom on campus, and all of a sudden you're being bombarded by cosmetics).

It's not as hard for a female to observe male behavior, especially since males are less explicit in privacy. That would give an idea to females about the type of guy they want to look for and the certain qualities they expect from a male.

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outofphase

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Xenophile

hey guys, i just read a funny cartoon in my old psych book. a couple of lines:

(man and woman's genes are holding a conversation)
"As a human female, i can physically produce only one offspring a year, so it's to my genetic advantage to look for a reliable partner with whom to pair bond"
"As a human male, i can produce many offspring, so it's to my genetic advantage to take any opportunity to procreate"

that's just a piece of the comic, but i think it sheds a little light on the nature half of this nature vs nurture argument, don't you?

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Quote by Celessa**Puts on her stylish glasses** - Wow, I haven't worn this in quite a while. I apologize for cutting back on some time.**Clears her throat** Erm... lol]We did - it's called the Sylvian Feminist Rights Center located at April Hill Crescent down in Ontario, and it's a small little organization that fights cases for younger girls my age that are pretty much helpless and can't fend for themselves. Over 300 cases have been won over the past few months, and I'm a proud supporter for it. The cases don't necessarily deal with rape cases, or domestic violence, but also the fight for equality of jobs - especially against those men who don't give ladies higher positions - just because they are of the female gender. Most cases we fight are slam-dunk cases with an 80% success rate. I may not be fighting directly for others in the cause, but I'm letting others know that help is actually out there.
It's out there. That's what democracy is for. **Cleans her glasses** Girls need the attention they deserve and there have been sites on the web that have been shut down regarding the status of how girls are to be treated around here.
Respect? Just like the minority fighting for respect against the majority, so are we females doing the same for the majority of dominated men as well. The struggle is one, but the same at time. I'm not saying that we want to overpower the males, but we are building a guideline that states that women who are equally of potential or more should earn their positions in the workforce as well. When it boils down to the final conclusion - any human being should have the right to get what they deserve, regardless of their gender or nationality.
]Pity? Sometimes I wonder the course of actions they take, truly - and they don't deserve pity in my opinion. Although, some have lived their own lives and some turn of event caused them to somehow psychologically think this sort of way, it can't be helped. It's too obvious. When you rape someone, it's a serious crime. Even if you don't mean it, believe me, you know that what you are doing is wrong - and females deserve respect for such privacy. There has been times when females have misused the rape term to get back at certain people as well, and I'm sure men detest that females can be so mischievous in such a way, but thinking about my friend's sister's case in particular, there's no doubt that what the guy did was absolutely wrong, and should be punished, without a doubt. I could bring up very similar points, but I'm not going to go there.
Pretty much, girls have their own stand on such an issue here. Some of the males just go too far, and for sadistic reaasons - we may never know why they would act such a way, really. I don't know what those poor victimized girls did to do deserve such a thing.


*put on glasses and sign*
I don't think you get what all of what I say :(
"it take one person to start a war but it take million to end the pain" it is the easy way i know how to say this *look out at the ocean* Pity -_- you do not understand this subject I'm afrid you only care when it someone you know T_T When you hear it you feel sorry for that person but really it more of pity pity and not of a caring pity :) To understand this type of subjet it have to happend to you for you to know what it is really like :) XD HA HA H HA HA "take one person to turn the ties of time but it take other to wake it from it's sleep"

Cajime

Cajime

Sweet Lolita

This thread makes me sad. Most of my friends are guys and I can tell you that they are nothing like what you have explained men to be, also... I've not really met any men like the ones you have described. Sure all men (and women) like pretty people but I've not yet met someone to obsess over it. And what they do? Most my male friends do very normal things... not particularly manly things. And what's so wrong with sport anyway? It keeps you fit and releases hormones which keep you happy.

Maybe there is not a problem with the men... but a problem with you not wanting to know them and only paying attention to very sad stereotypes.

Understanding typical male behavior is easy, study testosterone. But understanding each individual is impossible... male or female. So yes, maybe if you were a little open minded and less afraid getting to know some men could help you understand.

But then again, I don't really understand where all this is coming from. I've honestly never met men like that but maybe that's because we live in very different places and there is something bad in the water where you live. Or maybe you need to remove yourself from the internet where 13 year old boys hang out acting like this 'as a joke'!!!

i find this topic rather sexist :\ I really hate sexism and other sorts of discrimination.... so that's why it makes me sad.

Like why are men in general so obsessed with good-looking girls?
I can't answer that question, because I am not obsessed with good-looking girls. The only obsessions I hold are for collecting anime, music, and pictures (wallies, scans, etc). Sure, I appreciate beautiful girl, but does that make me obsessed? However, since you seem to like stereotyping us males, I'll give you a stereotypical response: We want to screw their brains out.

Do they always drool over perverted pictures and think about panties all the time?
See above. Panties? The only time I think about panties is when I'm doing laundry (folding them) or if I see a panty shot in an anime. WOO! The drool is overflowing!

What's with men getting turned on by females looking at female pics, while girls don't do the same for guys?
I don't. However, I would assume that they like lesbians. The reason why I think they like lesbians is they think "One naked girl. Nice. Ooo. Two naked girls. Sweet...."

And what's with the concept that guys find two girls making out is a whole lot better for them, really?
See above.

Football, hockey? Always goofing off? Do you guys like being perverted all the time?
I don't like football, hockey, or just about any sport for the matter. Once again, I'd appreciate it if you would stop stereotyping us guys. If I'm horny, I'll get rid of the feeling. Guess how. Maybe thats where your idea of an obsession for hot girls comes in.

Now its my turn to stereotype.

Girls and guys... I hardly find a difference in the way they both think. For some reason, some people think guys are perverted beasts, and girls are the moral leaders of society. Of course, for a safety net, they always add that there may be a bad apple in the bunch. Instead of classifying all guys as such, judge each person individually.

Though it hardly affects me either way, I disdain the thought of other people assuming that all I think about is naked girls kissing each other 24/7. I might have one perverted thought every day or so. Maybe two. Who knows.

What I'm trying to say is...you need to observe us guys a bit further before you make mass conclusions. I don't know who you've been around, but don't make a generalization from a small group of people. Excuse my bluntness.

I don't know that its truth but what about the gay guys XD HA HA HA HA
I wouldn't know anything about this most of the time I just lost my mind in the cloud and time. I'm too dum to know this type of stuff *trun dum and confuse and spin till get dizzy*
WEEeee me like spining around and around :) :D XD HA HA HA HA

DSJFX18

DSJFX18

Destiny

I'm not obsessed with good looking girls, but i'm still attracted to them. Its just part of the male hormones, the desire to reproduce and survive. Some girls talk to me about how guys are perverts...talking like i'm not a guy....-_-.. I have hormones too..but i just control them.
Girls, they gives guys the feeling that they shouldn't be harmed, something that must be protected..so innocent and pure....well some girls anyways. I had always perfer cute over sexy/hot anyways. Girls....their much more complicated then guys....

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