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Tantaga

Tantaga

Will Eat Your Children

After just finishing my Winter Quarter, I've had a little time more time to mull over some issues I've noticed in society. Upon finsihing Art 145: Art History there was a subject we discussed that caught my interest: censorship in art and the media. It would seem at times non-offensive works of art (or anything for that matter) were censored merely becuase they conflicted with someone else's relgious beliefs. This just struck me and I began to wonder about what truely deserves to be censored and what should be shown in public and who really has the final say.

Obviously anything pornographic or too extreme in violence for children to view are a few things that shouldn't have easy access.

I feel that some censorship is necessary to ensure that our society and world isn’t running rampant with distasteful images or things that could hurt the general public. I feel that if children cannot view the images, than the image itself should not be publicly shown or should be shown selectively. On the other hand, over censoring would be too extreme in that it would not allow any one to express how they feel or think and would severely hinder our society’s growth by not allowing any real progress or change.

What do you feel deserves to be viewed publically or should be hidden from the general view?

Or do you even feel censorship is necessary or not - do you feel it is legal or does it contradict our rights?

Please do tell.

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Celessa

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Celessa

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For me, I'm not really fond of Ecchi at all.

The first thing I think about with a girl wearing only a bra / panty on is - no thanks, really.

To the children looking at them at a very young age on the Internet - I do agree that at times, it gets a little too excessive.

I've also had problems with pictures that degrade the social status of girls for the matter. Some anime kind of portrays girls to be used only as mere sex toys and tries to put that into the real world when it supposedly isn't close to being true. Girls are definitely more than that, you know. It depends on the message being sent. Some fans take it a little too far, literally.

It is fine when its used for certain purposes, but its what crosses the line that seems demoralizing to society. Not going to lie - that if you go to a site filled with girls in sexual poses and the sorts in an entire gallery, it does kind of sicken or gross some of the guests out.

On the second hand, many members which I could say are guys going for the girls nonetheless, are expressing their inner mind by showing countless numbers of girls they believe look lovely and some guys even begin drooling at them by insight. Heck - maybe not drooling, but around that sort of works - you get the imagery here.

lol - That's pretty much all I have to say. The parents can't stop their children from watching every single little thing they find forbidden - it's too easy on the Net for them to access that stuff - that's no doubt. I believe that censorship should only be done when one place portrays something beyond the protocol and goes a little too far here.

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I agree. But i believe that it's the attitude of people in general that has caused this problem. Censorship really shouldn't be necessary if people are more understanding towards the audience and the effect they could have on young children.

But given the current view on things today, i have to say that censorship is regrettably important. I derive no pleasure from viewing half/nearly naked people. Also, as mentioned, i don't think young children should be exposed to this sort of filth.

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Tantaga

Tantaga

Will Eat Your Children

I would have to also agree with your responses. It would seem that what people feel should be censored is entirely on the public. If you look at today's society compared to, say the 1950's you would see a strikingly different attitude towards subject matter. For example, in older movies if someone was shot you would merely hear the gunshot and see a shadow of the person on the wall fall down - but now you see the gun, the gunshot, and the blood spurting everywhere.

I'm not saying that it is a bad thing, just that society has severly shifted views and standards from what it once was. This shift has also allowed subject matter that was once viewed as disturbing to be shown - and subject matter that was perfectly fine to be hidden. I just find it so sad when works of art are hidden because they contain religious images or art that contains controversial subjects (and I'm not talking about anything explicit or icky, just art).

i also feel that if something is sending out the wrong message of a subject, it should have a counterbalance of somthing portraying the correct message. I too get sick and tired of the media being able to flaunt girls around in that manner and have it be accepeted, but thiis is the way the world is today. Sometimes, it would seem that this false image is accepted over the true one. This than points me to the idea that censorship is controlled by the media not the general public. The media is just trying to sell more and attract more attention using any means possible.

It also bothers me when one person is offended by something, causing the entire work of art to be torn down without any regards to the beleifs of the creator. I feel people should try to be more understanding to works such as these and try to see the art from a different perspective. Like I said if children can view it, alrighty then.

It would seem that censorship contradicts itself at times and there is also the fact that you can't protect everyone. Somone is going to be offended by something you're perfectly fine with and vice versa. So, it would seem that censorship is really all about perception.

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xday

xday

Anime Revolutionist

I have been censored for countless of times in Anime Paper. Not because I posted nude pictues or something but it was rather based on radical ideas. It is here on this forum on why I got banned: http://forum.minitokyo.net/showthread/33877/ . I kept talking about athiesm, class stuggle, communism, and Mao Zedong. They closed all my posts and banned me from site. When I try to stood up for women's dignity and decency I was sileneced because I also included Mao Zedong's thought. So far we have talked about censorship in graphical terms, but not verbal terms such as freedom of speech.

Of course some parts of speech should be limited like you can't say "bomb" on a plane, or "fire" in a theater. However people can't sinlence you for your political beliefs.

As Karl Marx had said in the last sentence of the "Communist Manifesto,"
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Create a revolution for anime.

jasaiyajin

jasaiyajin

-repeat-

Censorship is inherently evil, a limit on ingenuity. If an art is good, no matter the level of what is considered in need of censorship, then art should not be modified.

As for the children argument, they will eventually figure out what you are hiding from them. The need to hide is also inherently evil, it shows insecurity and lack of control to explain what is real, or at leasts close to real.

Again, it is all relative, but most people do not take the time to completely comprehend the problem at hand. Censorship is born from fear like all other restrictive measures, not some good faith decency motive.

-repeat-

VKei

VKei

Yuki & Ai

The censorship is just a species of repression for the artists, that I think, but it is truth, Isn't o.k that the children see suggestive or explicit images of girls in Internet, these even though just are anime or cartoons. The mind of the children can distort the reality with a great ability, is better to take care of what they see at least until they have sufficient age to differentiate the real things from the fictitious ones. We didn't need more young sexual pervert surfing the network. Agreement Position of the censorship [ mentioned purpose ;) ]

ShrinkNerv4Eva

ShrinkNerv4Eva

Wanna-be Anime Junkie

Well, there's many forms of censorship. One involves actual manipulation of the work, like ripping out pages of the Bible, drawing a big black dot over a region, or drawing in bra's and panties. This type is most definitely wrong because it compromises artistic integrity.

The other type is to make the material inaccessable to people who aren't supposed to be exposed to it. I'm thinking this type is not so bad. If someone has the know-how and determination to find hentai on the net, then that person's not very pure and already "corrupted" by the objectable material.

Quote by VKei It isn't o.k that the children see suggestive or explicit images of girls in Internet, these even though just are anime or cartoons.

Americans are weird in that we like censoring away objectable material from the youths, but when they get older, many just swim in it. I think this might be because of the censoring, the censored material becomes like forbidden fruit and tastes so much sweeter when we can get our hands on it.

jaszi5

jaszi5

~Art lover~

I believe that their shouldn't ever be censorship....I think it really doesn't make a difference to censor things I mean it wrecks the true meaning...


Jaszi5

Jaszi5

...people! STOP posting IN A DEAD thread.

well...extreme censorship is a no-no..some are censored when they're not supposed to be..they should only censor those extreme ones like a lot of foul language and sex for the younger kids..but overall..censorship is not relevant..
bty, wat do u mean this thread is dead?

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griffin

griffin

Super Natty

I believe that censorship should only be conducted to allow for the fact that children walk amongst us. There should be no religious or political censorship. If a religion can't take the heat from that, it should remove itself from the kitchen.

Ditto on the dead thread statement. Where is it shown to be dead?

zeroenna57

zeroenna57

The Ultimate Eye/ Jew

like on t.v. they censor hole in asshole wtf ass is the bad word isnt it? not hole!

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Lacuslover81

Lacuslover81

One big and true lover of Lacus

censors are annoying. the censors seems to get rid of the good parts. I don't like them that much.

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Quote by xday
Of course some parts of speech should be limited like you can't say "bomb" on a plane, or "fire" in a theater. However people can't sinlence you for your political beliefs.


free speach doesnt exist for some people... watch the news... count the number of fat white guys you see....if there are more than 30% = dead free speach

be pessimistic so that youll never be disapointed and will live a happy life.

Darktekya

Darktekya

Anime Lover

The censorship is a complex thing to discuss, because there are many points of view to consider, first we must think why and for which situations is consider necessary a censorship. We as humans like to use our freedom as an excuse to do whatever we want but the true is that no matter how free everyone is your freedom ends when attempts against somebody elses freedom. We talk about freedom to speech, but do everything we think or know is necessary that everybody knows it?, is it convinient for them? is it convinient for me? will I hurt someone? is it fair? am I looking to benefit someone or destroy it instead? Do I believe what I'm sharing? Those are a few questions about things that we have to consider before we express ourselves. This rule for every way we express ourselves. Now sometimes the censorship exist due to unfair treat from goverments or religious groups, this kind of censorship is terrible and should not be allow. Sometimes groups of political or religious power believe that if they control what their people read, watch or hear they will prevent their people to think, and might be possible that this can work for a while, but not forever, sooner or later a person can be in disagreement of an idea or position.
Now I do believe of two important things, one: we must provide our families of a good knowledge and common sence. I love videogames, but I was not and I'm not a person that based on a videogame will go out and shoot somebody because is "fun", my parents did not restrict me to play violent games, but they aware me that those things are fictional and that violence does not solve a thing. I can see it like a game, I play it and once is done, is done. Also I love anime, but hentai and other things like that are not very smart, you cannot allow your life to be taken by pornography or any other similar things, in other word, my decision cannot be replace by censorship.
Two: I do believe there most be censorship, because, even if this is not guarantee that you will not run into many things that censorship "want to prevent" or that you will not go and find another way to get this items or information, is like a way of warning, that tell the people "ok, we wanna play with fire, go ahead, but you will get burn", unfortunately, freedom has a price, some prefer to pay the right price avoiding those things that can destroy them, some prefer to pay a higher price, choosing those things that sooner or later will regret.
But I said before, this is a very complex issue, and there's a lot of things to consider, the ideal will be that everyone will take responsability of what thinks and does before share it with the rest of the world.

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Kyoo69

me -> Kyo`

I don't like censorship because it's just annoying. But then again, it is needed since many parents don't care or don't control what their kids are watching, and they shouldn't see some things that air in TV nowadays.

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