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What is "normal", anyway? If you aren't troubling the rest of the world, then there's no harm in being abnormal.
- Mar 24, 2005
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I think it's crap...that law is only going to be enforced in US right.
If it doesn't reach Estonia then i really don't care :) , but it's a stupid idea .- Mar 25, 2005
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Like most anything else that contains content of a specific nature (ie. graphic violence, gore, etc), there is a likelihood that some video games marketed today do NOT need to be accessible to kids under a certain level of maturity. Specially if that maturity is defined as or includes being able to distinguish between the virtual world from the real world.
But the age-old question remains: how young is TOO young? They have to pick some age to use, and if they had to err one way or the other (as the government usually does), I would rather they err on the side of caution (and impose a higher age limit). After all, if an individual kid really does have the capability of handling such material at the tender age of 13 or 14, then what would stop him from asking his older sibling/parent to get the game for him? ....
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- Mar 27, 2005
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I think that it is a good thing. There are many games being sold in stores that have blood, gore, or questionable intentions.
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- Mar 29, 2005
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i dont think violent games has any effect on children
i was about 6-7 when i started to play violent games like mortal combat or duke nukem 3d, but it had no effect on me, im a calm man, i even dont like very violent animes, except if it has a very good story
my brother started to play them when me, but he's 3.5 years younger than me and it has no effect on him
so who want to ban games just want to blame something becouse of the violence he saw on the street- Mar 30, 2005
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Quote by Miroku4444Did you guys here that their trying to make it illegal for violent video games to be sold to minors. One word "bull****". I'm not under 18 but that is just stupid. Yeah its good for the 14 and under crowd, but what about the 16 and 17 year olds? By that age no violent video game is going to make someome act violent. I mean theres more violence on tv. Why not do the more reasonable thing and make it illegal for a violent video game to be sold to someone under 14??
What do you guys think?Not sure how long this thread has been up but isn't it alittle too late to say their are trying to make it illegal ( cause it is ). Which I believe is a good thing. One of the reasons is the company that made or sells the game will not get sued from any parents what so ever ( ESRB plays a role ). And the other reason would be the issues that kids blames games for their own ________ ( insert word here ) actions. Though we all know it's not a big deal... but not everyone share the same opinion.
Stupid people look for easy money and needs an explanation about every little thing or else their will sue. Anyone remember the coffee that spill on the guy that sued Mcdonald cause their didn't have a caution label that indicate the coffee was hot.
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- Mar 30, 2005
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I don't think it's the video game's fault nor the kid's fault if he/she is having a problem with emulating violence in the games... I think it's the parent's fault because they're clearly not sitting down with their children to help them distinguish between fantasy and reality. I think these parents are just looking to ban video games with violence/sexuality to anyone under 18 because they're too damn lazy to sit down with their kids and explain why it's bad to emulate that stuff. :P It's kind of sad how there's so many "parents" that just dump their kids in front of a Playstation 2 or just a TV in general so they don't have to do anything.
I think by the time someone is 16, they have a good concept of what is right and what is wrong, so I don't think it's fair to make any games unavailable to them (unless they're like... pornographic or something).
- Mar 30, 2005
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Quote by kuclo
Quote by Miroku4444Did you guys here that their trying to make it
illegal for violent video games to be sold to minors. One word
"bull****". I'm not under 18 but that is just stupid. Yeah its good for
the 14 and under crowd, but what about the 16 and 17 year olds? By that
age no violent video game is going to make someome act violent. I mean
theres more violence on tv. Why not do the more reasonable thing and
make it illegal for a violent video game to be sold to someone under
14??
What do you guys think?
you are right ,i agree with you we see more violence in the tv,animes
,and not much for videogames but here in my country ,does not matter
the age you can find everything what you want ,porno ,hentai and things
like that ,the people know is not right but is businees ,in the united
states is more stricte the authorities but not here but what we can do?kuclo you are right on the situation of our country but people minor of 18 years knows the difference beetween the reality and fiction they are not stupids :\
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- Mar 30, 2005
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wtf sure its ok to sell video games to kid under 13 i mean one of the first game ive played is Duke Nukem 3D and the more violent a video games is the more its fun ^_^'
and i DONT go on the street killing people those who associate real violence to videogame are morron !!!
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- Mar 30, 2005
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Age restriction will not solve the problem of young people commiting violence in society. Some adults are too simplistic in thinking that banning this and banning that will solve the problem.
- Mar 31, 2005
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Seriously, banning won't work. An underage person can get a brother or a sister who is older to buy to game for him/her. There are some game sellers who don't really care and they will just sell the game to underage people, since profit is more important. Anyway, I think the most violent video game I've seen is Manhunt.
- Apr 01, 2005
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berserker86
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I think nobody's living in Germany! Here they wanted to refuse the selling of Skies of Arcadia, because the actors in the game drinking alcohol and smoking cigarettes in the Game.
MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- Apr 01, 2005
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I have Resident Evil 4, and I'm 14. Although I don't think it has done anything bad to me. I really like the game. If you're asking how I got it, my dad got it for me for getting good grades. I do think that violent video games are somewhat useful; by studying the moves of the characters, you can even learn how to fight yourself, although I do think that people should restrict for only older people, like, older teens from 15-20, to buying those kinds of games.
- Apr 01, 2005
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I don't think you guys are getting the big picture here. It's not because they think it's too violence for you. It's to cover their own ass from getting screw. Though just like everything else in the world that is age restricted. It's not meant for all audience for reasons that one may find it offensive. The only reasons this is even a case is because of the parents to begin with. They assume that all games are just for kids. And don't realizes that game has evolve so much now that it even makes more money the movies industry.
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- Apr 01, 2005
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a violent game can be armagedon from psone or resident evil from psone and ps2.....!!!
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- Apr 03, 2005
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You're over 18 and still say "their" incorrectly? That's a 13 year old's mistake.
And the limits are there because there are thousands of copycat idiots out there, video game or otherwise. Unfortunately the exception is usually what formulates the rule. The restrictions are a bit harsh, and could be lowered, but still have a purpose. Their main target is parents, so they can judge, depending on their morals, what you should be allowed to play, as is their right as parents.
Still, it's not like getting said games while underage is difficult in any way.
- Apr 03, 2005
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The viodegames are violent but the films are too. We are speaking about fiction. And the fiction don't kill anyone.
- Apr 03, 2005
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Before I was old enough to buy M rated games, I just made friends with the employees at Game Stop so they sold them to me anyways. I'm just that awesome.
"Shed no tears for me. My glory lives forever!"- Apr 25, 2005
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People who make laws like these are complete and total idiots!!!
Minors don't buy video games, parents do (most of the times). And pirated games are making it easier and cheaper, mod chips are one-shot deals that can save you a lot of money.
And violence? omfg, this has been cliched' to death ever since the days of Mortal Kombat and Doom. And you still see sequels, taht's because many bought it including kids that are now game designers.
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- Apr 25, 2005
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I think most of you have touched on the points that I'd be inclined to make, so I need not belabor those beyond adding my agreement.
To expand a bit, though, this is nothing new, sadly; they were whining about rock 'n roll in the fifties, and then it was movies, and now video games and firearms (and god knows what else). Time and time again we see people who are not only willing, but who will work to shame Hercules' twelve labors to place blame anywhich place but where it belongs. It's never the criminal's fault, it's the firearms manufacturer, or dealer who sold the weapon to him, or the innocent man from whom it was stolen; it's never the the fault of the stupid high schooler who shot up his school, it's the games he played, or the movies he watched, or the company that made them. I don't know what is wrong with our society, or at least parts of it, but people seem to be ardently and absolutely unwilling to account for their own actions.
A qualifier for the last example, though - I agree wholeheartedly that parents are likely at least as much to blame as their wayward children; if they'd do their jobs as parents and actually raise their kids rather than plunking them in front of a TV and expecting that to suffice, this kind of inane regulation wouldn't be an issue in the first place. The government, video games, movies, etc. can't raise a child for you - if you aren't willing to put in the time and effort yourself, you shouldn't have kids to begin with.
I suppose that last is a bit redundant, in light of what others have said already, but the point is probably worth revisiting all the same.
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- Apr 25, 2005
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I believe that it is the parents that should take responsibility for which games thier children buy. They should not ban the sales to minors, or do any other form of market manipulation to control things.
i agre with Gilt in that parents who have kids should take responsibility to take care of them.
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U cant determine a person's maturity based on their age. Also if its their money let them buy what they want.
If they are too young were did they get the money?
Were are there parents?
How did they get to the store?
Who bought the video game system and why? If they arent mature they shouldnt have it!
Plus, they are probley screwed up already.In the name of God, impure souls of the living dead shall be banished into eternal damnation. Amen.
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i'm a gamer since i was a kid and i don't blame them for making it illegal.. it's not the parents fault either.. kids can get hold of those games without their parents knowing it, as if you guys never did it... the video game creators should be more responsible in making games.. if they will keep on making games that the main objective is to kill, bully, steal, have sex, blah blah blah... ofcourse parents and officials will do something about it...
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- Aug 04, 2005
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man what can i say that hasn't already been said I don't know ummmmm sure this law seems f***ed up but i guess we do have to see all thats going on. Let's face it most kids are pretty
stupid and will copy anything they see. I guess we need to find out why it happens in kids. Why they feel like they have to copy something they saw. I could be just human nature to do that I don't really know. I guess what I'm trying to say is that we should try and figure out the true human nature of how we think
- Aug 04, 2005
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