Quote by Youkailadywell
people judge america by the decisions we make and actions we take
because our president makes those decisions and he is elected by the
ppl to represent the ppl
i voted for kerry...
But what a lot of people don't understand is that the President doesn't make those decisions. To say that the
President makes decisions for the country would be like saying Nazi Germany was democratic (hey, they had the
Reichtung).
Quote by batman-samaHere we
go... debate about generalizations. Shure there are some "bad"
people in the united states OF America, after all we are not america
alone, as there is North, Central, and South America. People who make
general statements about a culture or society, are typically ignorant.
It's common in every country, just for instance some people in the U.S.
often make negitive generalizations about the Arab cultures, I'm sure
you know what I'm talking about. For me, this is a topic that doesn't
really concern me, these kinds of things will always be present
throughout the world. There are economical issues however, roughly 2%
of the population of the U.S. controls about 90% of our countries
economic output. Focusing on the whole country is irrelevant. I'm shure
there is more I could say but I'll stop here...
You make a good point here, as well. We are citizens of the U.S. We are also Americans. But so are people from Mexico
and Paraguay and Cuba and everybody from the upper reaches of Canada to the tip of Argentina.
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What I think is great about America is that we set up a system that is almost impossible to corrupt. If you stuck Hitler
in the U.S. political system and kept him from changing any part of it, the Holocaust would never have happened. Why?
Because there is no way in hell that the House would let it fly, and even if they passed it the Senate would have to
approve it, and even if they approved it the Supreme Court would pounce on him
and shut it down, and kill his public image to boot.
Also, we have never done anything that we have to regret on the scale of the Holocaust or the Crusades. We forced
Japanese-American citizens into internment camps during WWII and kept them there until the end of the war. However, we
didn't mistreat them, like the Germans did in wwii, and the government officially apologized within 40 years,
unlike the Turks, who still haven't even admitted the Armenian Holocaust ever happened.
We had days back in the years post-Emancipation Proclomation where the KKK had attendance in the thousands. Nowadays, if
I heard someone admit to being a member of the KKK, I would tear him apart and spit on what was left of him. So would
every person I know in my school.
Quote by o-sama-laden-sanPeople tend to forget america is responsible
for more deaths then adolf
hitler ever dreamed of. For example, the trade embargoes on countires
in the middle east and places in south america have killed TENS OF
millions of people, mostly small children and mothers. Also, our
embargo on cuba, the people are suffering there becuase the us does not
allow them any sort of trade, how do you expect them to live? also, we
make a big deal about "liberty" and "freedom" from "opression" in iraq,
and places like kosovo, but the us has turned a blind eye to the
millions who are still being massacared in the congo and the genocidal
wars going on in africa.
What about all the socialist/democratic leaders we have assinanated all
over the world and replaced with tyranical dictoratorships? that would
make the us responsible for all the people those dictatorships killed
too. Dont forget the literally millions of vietnamese we killed aswell.
What about the use of depleted urianium in our munitions? the cancer
rates have incasred several thousend percent in large geopgraphic areas
around the world from the use of depleted uranium.
anyway, I'm ashamed to be an american, no country is more tyranical
About the embargos. Do you really think that the people of Cuba would benefit if we reopened trade with them? Cuba is
communist, which is ideologically the perfect economy, but so contrary to the human drive to compete as to make it
easily succeptable to becoming a dictatorship, with complete control of the government. The communist way is you give
what you can and you recieve what you need. But if the government deems the rest of the population capable of living in
cardboard boxes, they would recieve cardboard boxes while the leaders would live in mansions. Do you really think that,
if we reopened trade with Cuba, the people would benefit?
Also, on the subject of foreign "interferance. You need to make up your mind on what you want us to do. Are you
suggesting that we should stop interfering at all, and "turn a blind eye to the millions who are still being
massacared in the congo and the genocidal
wars going on in africa", as you stated earlier? Or should we try to save the world, and have the world hate us
more, as seen by the international reaction to our war in Iraq? Keep in mind that we liberated millions in Iraq from a
ruthless dictator who would, for public executions, lower people feet first into a plastic grinder, slowly, so they
could watch their legs and torso getting shredded into cat food. Saddam Hussien killed close to 2 million Kurds during
his regime. Why? Because they were Kurds, simple as that. He was the Hitler of the 21st century, and he deserves to rot
in a high security prison somewhere.
We may use depleted uranium in our weapons, but weapons are weapons! Do you
think we leave them out in the open for little kids to touch? Or fire them at civilian structures for target practice?
Of course not! We use weapons as weapons, and make them as effective as possible to avoid prolonging conflict. In WWI,
the average cost in lives per 100 meter gain was 50000 people. In the second war in Iraq, combined with the fighting in
Afghanistan, the U.S. lost less than 8000 people in total. And a little uranium in a tank shell is nothing compared to
using poision gas on fleeing civilians, like Saddam did to the Kurds.
On the Hitler thing. Keep in mind that Hitler caused all those deaths in less than 10 years. The U.S. may have
participated in wars, but so has every country on Earth! If you look at it that
way, France's past is drenched in blood. The War of the Roses, the Crusades, the Franco-Prussian war, on and on and
on.
Finally, on your last paragraph. What leaders did we assasinate? When? Where is your proof?
And killing the Vietnamese? They were enemies in a war. What did you expect us to do, stand up, drop our weapons and let
them use us as target practice? Hell no! We fight back! And your number is grossly inflated.
Quote by sharinganknight
actually Im one of the few who thinks he did the right thing, sure this war was because of oil..but would you rather a
psychopath murderer such as Sadam have control over the world's biggest supply of oil or the US...and while he was
at it why not give the Iraquis a better country to raise their children on. And don't give me that bullshit that to
do so he killed many people, every war was deaths..for both sides. What was done had to be done.
and for that americans are hated, soon after the war was over the french and english wanted in the deal...pussies. We do
the dirty bussiness and get the blaim, because if we didn't no one else would. I mean look at what happened the
last time europe started a war..almost the whole Jewish population was extinguished, no offense to the
europeans.
Very well said, I couldn't agree more *bows to SharinganKnight*.
