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Shadowdawn

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I just read a really interesting article about euthinasia(for those of you who don't know what that is, it's a mercy killing. Like when someone's a complete veggie, and can't do anything for themselves, not even talk, so they can't voice their opinion, should they be put to sleep for good). In my opinion i really think that that is the best choice. I mean what is the point of living, when you can't even enjoy life? Well tell me what you guys think!!! Cancel

I just read a really interesting article about euthinasia(for those of you who don't know what that is, it's a mercy killing. Like when someone's a complete veggie, and can't do anything for themselves, not even talk, so they can't voice their opinion, should they be put to sleep for good). In my opinion i really think that that is the best choice. I mean what is the point of living, when you can't even enjoy life? Well tell me what you guys think!!!

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Archer79

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...Or too old, or sick... Or whatever excuse can come to mind. ...I'm against it in all it's forms. It's murder, no matter what its name. Cancel

...Or too old, or sick... Or whatever excuse can come to mind. ...I'm against it in all it's forms. It's murder, no matter what its name.

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I agree with Archer79. It is murder. How can you tell if they want to be put down? what if they enjoy there familiy comeing to vist them. im sure if they cant talk or move they still think. but they cant show it. so I would have to disagree with you Shadowdawn. Cancel

I agree with Archer79. It is murder. How can you tell if they want to be put down?
what if they enjoy there familiy comeing to vist them. im sure if they cant talk or move they still think. but they cant show it. so I would have to disagree with you Shadowdawn.

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i agree if the person is suffering and/or give his/her consent Cancel

i agree if the person is suffering and/or give his/her consent

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Mystfyre

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With consent, its simply assisted suicide. Depriving a person his or her right to kill herself is inhuman and evil. If the person is simply a vegetable, then it should be up to the people paying for it. If this veggie is living off the government, and therefore living off of me, I say kill the carrot instead of wasting my money. No brain waves=death. If it is at the expense of the family only, then if thats what they want to spend their money on, then by all means. Thats why everyone should have a legal document stating what to do if they ever become a veggie, to prevent stupid situations like that. Cancel

With consent, its simply assisted suicide. Depriving a person his or her right to kill herself is inhuman and evil.

If the person is simply a vegetable, then it should be up to the people paying for it. If this veggie is living off the government, and therefore living off of me, I say kill the carrot instead of wasting my money. No brain waves=death. If it is at the expense of the family only, then if thats what they want to spend their money on, then by all means.

Thats why everyone should have a legal document stating what to do if they ever become a veggie, to prevent stupid situations like that.

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Shadowdawn

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I couln't agree with Mystfyre any more!!! My thoughts exactly. I think that everyone should be requiered by law to write a legal document saying whether or not (in that case) they wish euthinasia to be performed. @ Archer79: if the document said that someone you know would want euthinasia to be performed, and you didn't have to comply with it if you didn't want to, would you still ignore the persons request, and help them keep suffering? Cancel

I couln't agree with Mystfyre any more!!! My thoughts exactly. I think that everyone should be requiered by law to write a legal document saying whether or not (in that case) they wish euthinasia to be performed.

@ Archer79: if the document said that someone you know would want euthinasia to be performed, and you didn't have to comply with it if you didn't want to, would you still ignore the persons request, and help them keep suffering?

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fawna-chan

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......i guess that's alright. but what if that person was you? Cancel

......i guess that's alright. but what if that person was you?

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If you all wish to read about a very interesting perspective on this issue by one of the leading ethicists today, I suggest reading some writings of [b]Peter Singer[/b], professor at Princetone University. He has some very interesting view points on euthanasia, abortion of babies with birth defects, and infanticide. Cancel

If you all wish to read about a very interesting perspective on this issue by one of the leading ethicists today, I suggest reading some writings of Peter Singer, professor at Princetone University. He has some very interesting view points on euthanasia, abortion of babies with birth defects, and infanticide.

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it's a hard decision, but i'm against euthanasia. last year, i went to a talk featuring a guy (sorry, i can't remember his name) who was a burn victim from a freak gas exposion. during his treatment, he begged to be put to death because it was so painful. he just wanted to escape the pain. however, they never acknowlegded his pleas and he continued to heal. now, tho he is blind and scarred, he leads a fulfilled life, being married and working as a lawyer. i think life is important. Cancel

it's a hard decision, but i'm against euthanasia. last year, i went to a talk featuring a guy (sorry, i can't remember his name) who was a burn victim from a freak gas exposion. during his treatment, he begged to be put to death because it was so painful. he just wanted to escape the pain. however, they never acknowlegded his pleas and he continued to heal. now, tho he is blind and scarred, he leads a fulfilled life, being married and working as a lawyer. i think life is important.

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Euthanasia is a serious form of action in my opinion, but sometimes when a person suffers and wishes that his or her life be terminated, I don't know what more to say. I mean, it is their life, though at the same time people should be living their life to the fullest, but if it is best to end one's life, I would deny such an option to that individual and let them live life naturally, not quickly, even if they choose to accept it. However, this is not my choice to tell them what they want to do. If they want to for good measures, I can't block them away for long. It's just not right. That's why sometimes I really don't want to be the one to make the decision if it ever arised and was placed on my shoulders. I'd let somebody else do it. I hate to regret that people must die this sort of way. There's not much more I can say. This topic is not in my best interest, but it can't come away unnoticed. Cancel

Euthanasia is a serious form of action in my opinion, but sometimes when a person suffers and wishes that his or her life be terminated, I don't know what more to say. I mean, it is their life, though at the same time people should be living their life to the fullest, but if it is best to end one's life, I would deny such an option to that individual and let them live life naturally, not quickly, even if they choose to accept it. However, this is not my choice to tell them what they want to do. If they want to for good measures, I can't block them away for long. It's just not right.

That's why sometimes I really don't want to be the one to make the decision if it ever arised and was placed on my shoulders. I'd let somebody else do it. I hate to regret that people must die this sort of way.

There's not much more I can say. This topic is not in my best interest, but it can't come away unnoticed.

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Shadowdawn

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@fawna-chan: If it was me i would wish to have euthinasia performed, because i personally beleive in reincarnation, and i would beleive that i could have a better life next time around.(anyway it's not like i have much to loose in this one). Cancel

@fawna-chan: If it was me i would wish to have euthinasia performed, because i personally beleive in reincarnation, and i would beleive that i could have a better life next time around.(anyway it's not like i have much to loose in this one).

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[quote=Shadowdawn]Archer79: if the document said that someone you know would want euthinasia to be performed, and you didn't have to comply with it if you didn't want to, would you still ignore the persons request, and help them keep suffering?[/quote] LOL You should PM when you do that! I just now saw it. :D No, I would not be able to kill them. ...That would be murder. ...At one point in my life (years ago), I thought things had gotten so bad I should kill myself. ...I held out. ...And I'm glad I did today. ...Looking back, I see I just had alot of anger, fear, and ironically... ...woosiness. ...Although I thought it was me being "tough" at the time.... Every life is precious. And it is sooo... ...short. ...Even considering how long it is... Could I deny someone a last day to see a blue sky? ...Their great-grandchildren? ...Their future and legacy? ...Perhaps in an extreme situation, but a document doesn't qualify. It has also been my experience that God will call people when their time arrives. It doesn't require human intervention. When the time comes, God will take them. I remember praying about this once. ...I believe He stepped in and took care of it. ...But then... ...I'm the type who believes in acts of God. I know there are those that do not. Cancel

Quote by ShadowdawnArcher79: if the document said that someone you know would want euthinasia to be performed, and you didn't have to comply with it if
you didn't want to, would you still ignore the persons request, and help them keep suffering?

LOL You should PM when you do that! I just now saw it. :D

No, I would not be able to kill them. ...That would be murder. ...At one point in my life (years ago), I thought things had gotten so bad I should kill myself. ...I held out. ...And I'm glad I did today. ...Looking back, I see I just had alot of anger, fear, and ironically... ...woosiness. ...Although I thought it was me being "tough" at the time....

Every life is precious. And it is sooo... ...short. ...Even considering how long it is... Could I deny someone a last day to see a blue sky? ...Their great-grandchildren? ...Their future and legacy? ...Perhaps in an extreme situation, but a document doesn't qualify.

It has also been my experience that God will call people when their time arrives. It doesn't require human intervention. When the time comes, God will take them. I remember praying about this once. ...I believe He stepped in and took care of it. ...But then... ...I'm the type who believes in acts of God. I know there are those that do not.

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I'm in favor also Cancel

I'm in favor also

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Hey, man. This is what I think... Why live when you will die later? Why say live long when you know you will be killed? Honor is nothing when you die, no medals for you and ur insurance will be stolen. You are happy with ur bf/gf but when they died in some accident or murdered, some of us really wanted to be with them. So, again, why live when you will die later... Cancel

Hey, man. This is what I think...

Why live when you will die later? Why say live long when you know you will be killed? Honor is nothing when you die, no medals for you and ur insurance will be stolen. You are happy with ur bf/gf but when they died in some accident or murdered, some of us really wanted to be with them. So, again, why live when you will die later...

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it's a really hard thing to answer I must say................it depend on the situation........ as it require proper documentation...........and also family, relatives, friends, and doctors opinion......and the person himself...... but the problem sometimes the person himself in the state where he or she can't even give a response............. I personally think it's okay.............but it's a very hard decision Cancel

it's a really hard thing to answer I must say................it depend on the situation........

as it require proper documentation...........and also family, relatives, friends, and doctors opinion......and the person himself......

but the problem sometimes the person himself in the state where he or she can't even give a response.............

I personally think it's okay.............but it's a very hard decision

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thats a really hard question to answer...but a recent event happened here in florida with this lady named terri shivo and she ended up like that in the hospital [a veggie] so the hospital decided to put her to rest and that caused a uproar in the public because they said it wasnt fair[?] or something like that...my point is that it is true that if someone cant even live their life and enjoy it and express themselves then why let them continue living like that?...but the other side is that even if they cant express themselves...how do you know if they want to be killed at all...so i suppose this is one of those unanswered questions... Cancel

thats a really hard question to answer...but a recent event happened here in florida with this lady named terri shivo and she ended up like that in the hospital [a veggie] so the hospital decided to put her to rest and that caused a uproar in the public because they said it wasnt fair[?] or something like that...my point is that it is true that if someone cant even live their life and enjoy it and express themselves then why let them continue living like that?...but the other side is that even if they cant express themselves...how do you know if they want to be killed at all...so i suppose this is one of those unanswered questions...

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[quote=psychoticwind]Hey, man. This is what I think... Why live when you will die later? Why say live long when you know you will be killed? Honor is nothing when you die, no medals for you and ur insurance will be stolen. You are happy with ur bf/gf but when they died in some accident or murdered, some of us really wanted to be with them. So, again, why live when you will die later... [/quote] This implies "why should we live at all, since we will all eventually die?" It's a hard/good question. ...I suppose it kind of ties back to "what's the meaning of life?" ...I don't know that I can answer that for sure. I can throw other quotes at it like "It's better to have loved and lost than to have never loved at all." ...Or perhaps we can live to accomplish something. In most cases folks will be able to accomplish more for what they cherish by "living for it" rather than "dying for it". Besides, if you were dead, you probably wouldn't have anything better to do than live. :D ;) Cancel

Quote by psychoticwindHey, man. This is what I think...
Why live when you will die later? Why say live long when you know you
will be killed? Honor is nothing when you die, no medals for you and ur
insurance will be stolen. You are happy with ur bf/gf but when they
died in some accident or murdered, some of us really wanted to be with
them. So, again, why live when you will die later...

This implies "why should we live at all, since we will all eventually die?" It's a hard/good question. ...I suppose it kind of ties back to "what's the meaning of life?" ...I don't know that I can answer that for sure. I can throw other quotes at it like "It's better to have loved and lost than to have never loved at all." ...Or perhaps we can live to accomplish something. In most cases folks will be able to accomplish more for what they cherish by "living for it" rather than "dying for it". Besides, if you were dead, you probably wouldn't have anything better to do than live. :D ;)

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While this thread has seniority, another thread has received twice the number of posts, and therefore I will close this one. Apologies to the one who created this thread for not having caught the duplicate sooner. http://forum.minitokyo.net/showthread/25095/ Cancel

While this thread has seniority, another thread has received twice the number of posts, and therefore I will close this one. Apologies to the one who created this thread for not having caught the duplicate sooner.

http://forum.minitokyo.net/showthread/25095/

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