Graduate study, is it really necessary?

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Barbara

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I'm gonna graduate soon and I'm thinking of studying MA.
But I don't know if it's really necessary?
I saw many people study MA or Phd and it's high chance that they'll get good jobs.
I myself think that if we're capable of working and can work effectively then MA or Phd degree isn't that necessary. What do you think? That may help me a lot for choosing what to do in the future, thanks in advance. Good day now ^_^

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well it's necessary i guess, some job's need MA or Phd, but you won't get skill's on studying, you'll get it after you work and improve it, after a while you'll get the skill's ... :) :D

that's my idea ^_^'

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In my opinion.... i don't really emphasize on higher education, even i got higher educated but as a manager i interviewed a lot of fresh graduated students... i found that... can a employee work good or not? is not depends on the few papers( i mean cert.s) i will monitor their works and performance on every tasks they handle... working experience are far more important for me...

Once i hired a m'sia greatest university student before... but her performance sucks... but the other "o" level guy i hired is far more capable than her!!!

Sometimes i'm thinking, education never teach you how to do business, never teach you how to communicate and maintain relationship with client and even never teach you how to get a babies!!!

But education do playing a very important part... and is compulsary... they provides you the knowledge, brief you all the fundamentals of skills and give you a very honorable degree certificate...

So, some of the jobs do required special knowledge to achieve like IT jobs, mechanics, doctors, lawyers, surveyers and etc...

but do remember study what you interested... don't force yourselve taking what you don't like... that's a real pain.... Enjoy the school life... working performance is not judged by a piece of paper...

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I saw many people study MA or Phd and it's high chance that they'll get good jobs.

Yes they do have a gd chance to get it... but do you know how many of them get kicked off from the company bcos of sucks performance...

Finally i must declare that i am not offencing people who are high educated, i juz briefing and pointing out the differences in working exp.

And Barbara... this is juz my very own opinion and doesn't mean to ask you stop studying... but choose whatever you like, not decision make on future's issue... that will pressure you a lot on studies...

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>.< I always hated making big decisions @_@ There's always so many what-ifs.
If you think you're capable of finding a good job and be happy without a MA or Phd, then I don't see why you shouldn't do that.
I'd probably be stumped if I came across the same situation but at the end of the day, it's your own decision and what you think you'll be most happy with.

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Going through high school is still a huge feet for me, going to university will be an even bigger feet but i have to, i always thought it a waste to go throuhg 13 years of school and then get a piece of paper saying "you made it" on it... but i think you should study MA, it would be good for your future and whatever you decide should be what you think is best for you n.n

  • May 29, 2005

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Quote by faiz138well it's necessary i guess, some job's need MA or Phd, but you won't get skill's on studying, you'll get it after you work and improve it, after a while you'll get the skill's ... :) :D
that's my idea ^_^'

Yep, we can not get skill from study but at least based on what we studied so far we can somehow know our ability to work :)

Quote by kara&gt;.&lt; I always hated making big decisions @_@ There's always so many what-ifs.
If you think you're capable of finding a good job and be happy without a MA or Phd, then I don't see why you shouldn't do that.
I'd probably be stumped if I came across the same situation but at the end of the day, it's your own decision and what you think you'll be most happy with.
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that would be a nice option, I actually want to find a job after finishing undergraduate. After a while I can come back and study for MA, but it's hard though since I become familiar with my job, I may be not want to get back study again. I don't know, it's a tough decision though :(

Quote by M33k0Going through high school is still a huge feet for me, going to university will be an even bigger feet but i have to, i always thought it a waste to go throuhg 13 years of school and then get a piece of paper saying "you made it" on it... but i think you should study MA, it would be good for your future and whatever you decide should be what you think is best for you n.n


Thanks for the advice, I know I should but I'm still thinking. I actually want to find a job after finishing undergraduate, but yeah should keep thinking then :(

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Well, You should always keep thinking XD heh... Just do what you think is best for you ! ^_^ in the long run, your instinct and intuition will probably have guided you. If you live without regrets, life is so much easier! just go witht he flow, and Do as you think is right.

  • May 29, 2005

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I think it really depends what you want to do. Say if you want to go into business, a master's or doctorate probably isn't necessary since (around here anyway) they don't even really care what degree you take so long as it's respectable. The earlier you get into a real job, the more relevant experience you'll gain which will make you more valuable than some guy with a Phd.

If, however the job you want is specialised and requires a certain degree then taking a relevant masters could greatly help your job prospects. Say engineering. If you want to be an engineer, you need an engineering degree and if you get a masters, you'll get further faster.

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actually it is, but it all depends on the type of job that you want to land.. for example, from the school that i graduated from, a professor can't teach not until she gets her MA degree, better if phd.. i also want to pursue further studies, i'll probably take up law 2-3 years from now.. congratulations on your graduation by the way..

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Congrats on graduating :)

i think it's important to continue your education. It's not necessary, but it will help you land the job that you want a lot. We've been schooled for many years now (usually around 14-18 years), a couple of years more doesn't hurt. It makes a difference in the amount of money you earn too. I'm not saying that money is something decisive in choosing the job, but let's just say that most of us won't refuse money. A higher education can help you with the initial step (i.d get hired) and the rest is up to you.

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Quote by dutchforceCongrats on graduating :)
i think it's important to continue your education. It's not necessary, but it will help you land the job that you want a lot. We've been schooled for many years now (usually around 14-18 years), a couple of years more doesn't hurt. It makes a difference in the amount of money you earn too. I'm not saying that money is something decisive in choosing the job, but let's just say that most of us won't refuse money. A higher education can help you with the initial step (i.d get hired) and the rest is up to you.

Oh well, actually how much of money can I earn is a very big deal for me. I would not be satisfied with a low income. May be higher education can help with that but um....I don't know maybe I should get a part time job or something *keep thinking* :)

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Ultimately, you need to take a look at the requirements for the jobs you want to get. I found that most of the jobs I wanted required a Master's, so I decided I'd better get one (and that's what I'm doing currently). That's really the deciding factor. There's nothing writh NOT getting that degree, either! :D
You'll also want to "shop around" for the best place to get your degree, if you decided you want to go that route. Some universities are better known for specific MAs than others.

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it really depends on the job ur aiming for. My dad recently did his MBA and he's 50 + yrs old. I myself am doing a M. Eng. A basic degree doesn't impress as much nowadays so if you have the motivation then I say go for it, especially if u enjoy the subject.

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I think it is now. It's more likely that you'll be hired due to your grad edu.

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  • May 29, 2005

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I never had to study to graduate. Graduating just comes naturally to me XD

Well for some people, they need to study. Others just retain all of the information. So it depends.

  • May 29, 2005

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The roles of continual education is now a daily requirement within any society. As technology booms in advancement, and young people are taking the stand and going through greater competition over a limited quantity of jobs, many have to take these advantages as they come, or it will come back to haunt them for the rest of their natural-born lives.

Not only does a Masters or a Ph.D. draw you a better chance of finding a job, but one who obtains many skills at hand are bound to most likely find jobs most suitable for him or her at an instant. My friends at university who got their Masters degree landed in a far different profession that not only gave them new hands-on experiences to approach, but jobs that are well-paid and at times, incredibly fun as well.

Even if the student briefly reflects and wishes not to continue learning after receiving the bachelor's degree, there will still most likely be a chance that you still have to learn something new down the road. Not only does it sharpen your resume, and add palette to your skills, but the term of "continual learning" will help you get the job you've always wanted.

Whether it would be 6 to 8 months being trained of a new skill, this new skill you learn, even if you don't place it in application within the job you are working in - can grant you a boost or a lift on those higher paid, fundamental jobs that you may be satisfied with in the long run. Whatever is the case, even if you do or do not wish to pursue a Masters within your career, you still have to obtain the willingness to learn if you wish to aim for higher jobs.

It's all a natural balance really. Some higher-end jobs are very stressful, and some are like a walk in the park. At the end, higher education gets you where you want to go, and its extremely difficult to turn one away when he or she is unemployed, nonetheless. The bigger your palette of opportunity, the better.

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There's another requirement that hasn't been well mentioned in the above posts, and that's what requirements the MA degree have. I know of numerous MBA programs that simply will not accept people unless they've had 2-3 years of related work experience. However, there are plenty of Masters and PhD programs that accept folks straight from undergrad. Most programs, regardless of this requirement, look quite favorably on relevant job experience, and you will find that having a few years under your belt will probably make the education more relevant to yourself. Additionally, some jobs may help subsidize your continuing education, because it means you will gain more skills to bring back to the company. It's just a fine balance of what you want to get out of life.
Myself, I have just finished my graduate education (for the time being?) I recently received a Masters in Biosciences. I went into the program straight out of undergrad because I knew I wanted to work in the biotech industry, but to enter the industry straight out of undergrad meant I would be washing glassware for a year. Ew. With a higher degree I can start off at a higher position such as research associate instead of research assistant, and get into the stuff I want to do more easily. It also gave me the opportunity to write several papers (which are in the process of review for publishing) and expand my career network (via the professors and other faculty, fellow students, guest speakers, internships, and the like.)

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In todays world, I believe that graduating is necessary (at least in most countries) if you're hoping for a good job.
But I guess it depends on the contry culture and the type of studies.

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I'm not even in university yet so that is way too far for me. Anyhow, graduate study is important, in my country it is necessary, undergraduate just like the basic study, not enough to get a good job. I think you should go for it, keep studying higher education, it's good for you my sweet friend ^____^

  • May 29, 2005

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Quote by Tama-NekoThere's another requirement that hasn't been well mentioned in the above posts, and that's what requirements the MA degree have.

Tama is right; whether or not you decide to pursue a masters degree depends significantly on what field you wish to go into, what kind of program you are interested into applying for, and what institution you would prefer to attend. Many times, it would be best for you to actually get some experience in the "real world" before diving into more advanced or specialized studies, and sometimes doing so is required.

If you're able to land a competitive job out of college, put your graduate degree aspirations on hold. The sister of my best friend, for example, graduated from Wharton and was able to get a job at McKinsey, and a few years later she's going to be going back to school, Harvard Business, to be exact, with her tuition fully paid for by the company.

Myself, I have just finished my graduate education (for the time being?) I recently received a Masters in Biosciences. I went into the program straight out of undergrad because I knew I wanted to work in the biotech industry, but to enter the industry straight out of undergrad meant I would be washing glassware for a year. Ew. With a higher degree I can start off at a higher position such as research associate instead of research assistant, and get into the stuff I want to do more easily. It also gave me the opportunity to write several papers (which are in the process of review for publishing) and expand my career network (via the professors and other faculty, fellow students, guest speakers, internships, and the like.)

I've just gotten accepted to the accelerated Masters of Public Administration program at my university and will be starting my graduate coursework in the fall, during my senior year of undergraduate study. I've been set in pursuing a career in in one of the executive agencies for years now, and therefore I know that to be a more competitive candidate for a policy position, I need to have graduate study and fellowships under my belt, and therefore it makes most sense for me to get a Masters degree as soon as possible.

In the end, it really all boils down to exactly what field you're interested in and what degree you want to pursue, because every degree program is different, and the strategies involved are similarly distinct.

Hope that helps!

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i dont have any idea what are you talking about...sorry

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Quote by jakudoshigirli dont have any idea what are you talking about...sorry

hehe, she will finish undergraduate soon.
She wonders if she should continue studying, master degree or somethin.
I think yes, you should keep studying, it will not take long and it's better to find the job you really want after graduating. Eh....did I tell you this before, yes I did. Hope you'll do so :D

  • May 30, 2005
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Quote by jakudoshigirli dont have any idea what are you talking about...sorry

That was a pointless post. If ya got nothing to say other than "I don't know", why post?

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i think it's necessary to study and graduate because, to study is to prepare yourself to work!!! and to graduate is to prove yourself worthy of working at a certain place, and to prove you can do what they want you to do... but experience is more necessary!!! i hope i've answered your question right!!! :D

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