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Quote by archer79Umm... Let's look back... I said "Jesus taught
with
actions of peace and healing. ...He even had one of His deciples put
away his sword when Jesus was arrested."
Jesus was truly a great
man of peace. I mean, seriously, just read this quote:
Jesus condemns entire cities to dreadful deaths and to the eternal
torment of hell because they didn't care for his preaching. Matthew
11:20
I'm not sure what screwed up version of a bible you're using, but Matthew 11:20 reads:
Quote: Then he began to reproach the towns where most of his mighty deeds
had been done, since they had not repented
Well that's what I found in the
bible I have. Maybe mine's screwed up. Doesn't matter though. The book is filled with
bull.
Quote by Archer79Remember; Jesus didn't come here to condemn the world, but
to save it. ...Let's face it, scripture didn't work. We needed a coach.
Save the world from
what?
Quote by Archer79Man has
sinned before and after Christ... ...I don't see anywhere in the bible, or accounts of Jesus' works where he
tells people to be kings, nor where he tells people to burn other people...? ...In fact, in both word and example, He
taught people to serve one another, to have faith, and to forgive.
Yeah, and his teachings worked
real well which is why blacks were never slaves or why there never existed monarchies. That's why the Native
Americans weren't forced out of their homes and that's why Jews were never gassed in
chambers.
Quote by Archer79From
what I can tell, you seem to really enjoy providing allegations solely based on conjecture and circumstantial and
outright incorrect evidence?...
Christians come up with allegations more than anyone else when they
talk about people burning in a lake of fire or when they speak of a god. They provide absolutely NO evidence with what they say. They say Jesus healed but this allegation is based on
nothing.
And could you give an example of how I "really enjoy providing allegations solely based on conjecture and
circumstantial and outright incorrect evidence".
Quote by FredGregThe monarchies, burnings, torturings etc. are not what Jesus
preached, so you can't blame him for them. Blame the people who did them. If someone murdered 60 people near your
home & said they did it for you, or because you had annointed them, does that make you either the cause or the one
who should be blamed? No, it makes them a liar as well as a murderer. In like manner, just because people have said
they're doing horrible things in Jesus' name doesn't mean Jesus approves or said to do it. He
specifically said not to ('Love your neighbour?').
I didn't say it was Jesus'
fault, I said that this was the end result. Christianity can be connected to burnings and tortures throughout alot of
history. I think what Jesus taught was good...if people followed.
Quote by FredGregYou're alive or you're not, right? Mutually exlusive.
If I prove you're dead, then I've proven that you're not alive. Frivolous example I know, but it
wasn't an argument, just a point I found interesting. I throw in a lot of stuff that's not exactly pertinent,
if you haven't noticed. I like to ramble.
Well, that's one example. One of VERY FEW. It doesn't apply to proving God doesn't exist though. You can prove
if someone is dead or alive because we know, for a fact, that one can be dead or alive. God was never proven but he was
never disproven BUT the burden of proof rests in the hands of the accuser. Could
you prove that dragons don't exist? The answer is no. It's a negative.
Quote by FredGregI never said
they should stop having sex - that's stupid. That they should not get preganant was my desire, which I reckon
you'd agree with - you don't like overpopulation either if I remember correctly? Contraception is the key.
Screw what the funny little man in the white hat says.
I agree but some people are stupid enough to
listen. Usually, these people exist in poor, undereducated, countries. They listen to the man in the white hat say that
they should not use condoms. That is a load of BULL. I'm sure you would
agree with me.
Quote by FredGregOkay, fair enough, so I pick on the Catholics a bit too much. I
don't hate them... I just don't like the way people see them & decide that's what all Christians must
be like. I don't really like any denomiations, because they always add cruft that isn't needed. I want to be
Christian, but I don't want to be told to obey the Pope's decrees, hate gays, never smoke, or anything else
just because of it. Those aren't actually part of it, & I refuse to observe them unless I happen to want to for
my own reasons, which I tend not to (I don't like being told what to do, but even less do I like being told what to
think or what my morals should be). They're called 'bible thumpers' because they take it literally, which
as I've explained they shouldn't, both because it's stupid & because Jesus said not to - it
shouldn't be so precious to them. That place should be reserved for Jesus & love, but many prefer to fill it
with a book & hate (see: anything to do with Fred Phelps - he & his followers are a perfect example.
There's nothing Christian in their attitude, but they justify them by a strictly literal reading of parts of the
Bible combined with ignoring other parts).
But people take it literally which is what pisses me off.
They refer to the bible when they make decisions when they should be using their heads and common sense to make a
decision. And if they shouldn't take the bible literally, then how should they take it? How do they know what
scriptures to follow and which to ignore? How will they know? And if you don't want to be told what to do, then
maybe you should convert to another religion.
