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Chobits: What if persocoms were real? (And if you had one?)

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If it had the same kind of personality as Chii, I think I'd fall head over heels in love with it...

I know this actually a relatively old topic, but not only is this an important issue, but there are also many topics that have been missed. Firstly, I'll state my basic idea. I think it's hard to decide whether it would be socially accepteable in the modern world. In the future, it may well be a natural thing, but by todays standards, I think this would be seen as a geeks toy, and no-one would really take it seriously, except for those that actually fell in love with them. The teacher in Chobits is a perfect example. Her husband left her because he became more interested in robots then humans. Ofcourse, I don't believe that having any social connection with a robot is unaccepteable, but it is a tough decision to make on whether it should be seen as a positie, negtive or even neutral asset.

One of the most important topics involved with robotic human relations, is ofcourse reproduction. At this point in time, we could do with a drop in population, so they could be pretty useful at this time. However, when it starts to become an absolute habit, and over half the population gets inolved in this, we could quickly see the human race entering the phase of extinction, and economical faliure, as the robots start to take up to much space.

On the topic of economy, we saw in this show, persocoms being used in the workplace. We also saw the main character, Hideki, desperately looking for a job in the beggining, but fortunately, he managed to find one. Now, many people are already complaining that due to immigrants entering our modernised countries, there is a shortage of work. Add another race to challenge the problem, such as persocoms, and you're increasing the unemployment rate. People could become jobless, leading to starvation, homelessness, and many other problems.

As for accepting these machines as a race is alo a difficult decision. Like said almost 2 years ago, humans are merely controlled by electric pulses, which will no doubt be the same for these machines. However, they are not born through nature, but by man kinds interference. I don't know what constitues something/someone as a race, but I'm pretty sure I heard on the news about Dolly the sheep (The first clone ever produced.) being declined acceptance as a race in 2 ways. Firstly, she was declined as a sheep, and was afterwards declined as a new kind of race.

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Okay first off I want to adress one thing it slight no almost extremely angers me that you refer to Persocoms as robots. I wanna state that it would most likely be offensive to one as to name it after such a primitive form of a homosapien. The reason I say this is because robots are monotoned in voice and very mechanical in movements as to a Persocom was most likely created by a slightly disturbing way of studying the human body through process of wrong but sad autopsies to the point it would be easy to create the skin. If you ask me a Persocoms skin would be very simple to replicate a smooth enough and properly made latex would be quite soft and textured like human bodies. Also to state a new set of laws would not have to be made as a persocom would only act as their master directs them to unless abandoned then the owner of which would surely be held accountable for the crim. Also I'm pissed to hear some would use them as slave labor or hookers because that is mistreating all persocoms. I see a human as something that you can love and can love you back an ancient persocom like Chii could love but unfortuneately the future of that emotion in any machine is years away but I can almost gaurantee if someone could properly fund me I could create a computer program that would be a very basic 3D doll that would act upon certain typed in response to create a persocom would be simple to apply the right mechanics this program and to recognise the commands by voice and and would act out the same way as the basic 3D figure in the program would we have already developed the learning system in a robot which knows how to play Air hockey because it studied and lived by the same thing of Monkey see Monkey do.

I believe that in the future (possibly the next 50 years), such "beings" would exist. But what does it that really makes us living, when we develop robotic beings with their own free will, intelegence, and the cabability to learn, such inqueries as "what makes us alive" will be brought into question. Humans will use such robotic humans as slaves and there would be some people who protested against this and would want to treat such robots as humans. This is my theory of what might happen.

Im sure I could use several persocom maids :D

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Well, nobody can say for sure if they won't or would fall in love with their persocom. i perfer us not to have them..it would be too much..because

1) We need to learn everything, as much as i'd hate to admit, we need to do our own homework..

2) We can't have people falling in love with their persocoms, its just not right. if persocoms were meant to be made, why would we need humans right? ya, we're selfish and stuff, but if u think about it....it just wouldn't work out the way people had planned.

If Persocons were perfect and more efficient than human beings, 'Chobits' would lose its sense. The real point 'Chobits' presents is human beings and Persocons aren't perfect; both have their limits, and, despite everyone, Hideki and Chii did an effort to be together. It's real love.
I think we're near the time we mustn't be selfish and share the 'only intelligent being' throne.
If Persocons were real, I would have someone besides me in the day-by-day. If it's a feeling-capable AI, why not? Chii couldn't give Hideki a child. There are many women and men unable to reproduce.

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Well I think WE'RE REALLY GETTING CLOSE TO CREATE PRESOCOMS already.
Think about it: Japanese robots can indentify a persones emotions, can memique themselves; pcs already read texts to death people with a pre-recorded voice, our walking (swinging) motion can be done aswell.
As for the emotions: I think we only need a brilliant programmer and a psychologist to write a programma that deals with emotions and write a learning process. But our emotions a pretty randome, but u can use a simple tool for that too!
(I thought out how: take for every emotion a single metal wire and place them with others in a small tube. If the emotion is used, run a electric current through that wire. Start with a value "10". Other emotions are used aswell, so the heat each other and slightly change the current. The end value something like is "12". So u get a fairly unpreditible emotion, that doesnt jump up and down as fast as a program does.)

However its use wil be very diffrent:
- of course there will be thinks we saw in Chobits. phone, email and stuff.
- there will be persocom olympics (who can built the best persocom?)
- there will be persocom wars (which persocom shoots the best and the fastest?)
- ppl will get lazy, cuz the persocoms can do all the dirty work and still smile
- but it can also help in hospitals, transport and other stuff
- they work day and night
Sadly that also means:
- ppl only get jobs persocoms cant do
- ppl will get in love with persocoms
- ppl will program them to do horible things
- and many will be use for the p*rn-industry (though that might be a good thing, cuz no real girls will be in the videos)

Btw, restricting them to NOT HARM PPL won't work either. Every program has a crack on the internet, so these rules can be stopped aswell.

But imagine: you walk though the mall, and there's a hugh persocome shop. A sign says "GET YOUR PERSOCOME NOW!". All kinds of ladies and men behind the glass and the next mode PCM 3000x is out! (though you dont have enought money XD). In the shop you can buy the newest OS and many cool other programs. There a programs for dance parties, swimming, helping with school, work, house hold, and stuff!
Nest door you can buy new wigs for ur presocom, diffrent colour of skinn, eye colour, elf ears, maybe even a TAIL! Or how about, the newest cute voice!
Or perhaps, you don't like an adult and go for the smaller (and expensiver) teenager, or the small (notebook like) kid (like a little brother of sister - thats not iritating :P).
You like the idea yet?

Of course, we'll have some problems. First of all, the costs and the weight of the persocoms. It could be like buying another car or maybe 2. And you do want to lift the persocom, when its broken (or get stuck in an elevator (max 8 ppl or 2 persocoms).

But many seem to think its bad to fall in love with a persocom. I dont think so, and listen why: you need to stop seeing love as something between 2 ppl, but see it as something to become happy! We can see that all around us: ppl who are forced to choose between 2 loves, ppl who like their hobbies more then its "healty", the love between parents and child, the love for ur car, for ur diary, cats, dogs, VIP, sweets, whatever! This is all the same thing, only there are diffrent sides to it. And we are greedy, we dont want to share thinks we really love, things that are really preciouse.
If you look at it that way, its not that funny to expect ppl loving their persocom. Its like teaching the "other" how u like to be loved. And it wont be funny either, seeing them make love.
It does sound right somehow: don't u want to have ur perfect girl or boyfriend?
But dont worry: eventiually ppl will see loving a persocom less then loving a human. We show more initiative, then persocoms can.

But theres still a long way to go yet. We still need a few brilliant ppl to devellop it and bring it on the market. (Any programmers amongst u? Good luck!)

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my persocom would mostly help me with organising and recording my hobby: im a story writer :D

either two things could happen if u got a persocom:

1. things go along well, and they r considered helpful and "normal" to society. it would be like a cyborg being ur best pal.
2. they would use these kind of creations for war since they would be able to think advancely, and then all chaos would occur and stuff... humans would end up killing themselves since we're all stupid...

anyways, if i had a persocom though. i think things would be fun. yes it's an excuse to be more antisocial but yeah, it'd be nice to have a pet.... although, i don't think i'd be able to take it as seriously as a human.. maybe if it conveyed emotions, not by program but like humans, i would like them more (friendship)...but NOT how hideki likes chi.

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First of all i wouldnt be able to afford one, i'm dirt poor. If i could, he/she would be my best friend and i would probably have him/her help with my mother's financial problems. I would treat him/her like a person so they wouldnt feel out-of-place. I dont know, it's not really something i've thought about.

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it will be awesome.i would like to have an handsomeone with whom i can go out.just tell me why there r so many girl personocons in the anime?boys r less.

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When I watched Animatrix and how people butchered that helpless droid that looked like a real female as she screamed "I'm real" "I'm real", I had nothing but contempt and hatred for my species, Imagine Chii being axed in the head and shot, raped, stuffed with steel pipes while pleading is almost unbearable for me, and if I end up with a perscom I may fall in love for it or her considering I much found companionship and happiness during hard times when she stuck with me, being cute, cheerful and understanding as her AI may allow. Though I agree with some, human kind may use these for war and stuff. Oh and the ever popular question of the "S" word? I think it's up to the owner if he/she is matured enough to understand the deeper meening of it. But if you are affected of not having a child then that is where your love is tested to the limit. Persocoms are not bad, it's the insatiable people that makes them bad....

I don't think I'd fall in love with a male persocom, and maybe I'd treat a female persocom nearly like a sister or good friend. I might also end up overworking them cos I'm under the illusion that they're machines, therefore they can stand the workload. Anyway, if anyone did fall in love with a persocom, I think it's ok, cos you don't have to have children to be happy or to fulfill your relationship. But this "positive" thinking will take a toll on our world and there will be many childless Persocom-human couples, and then slowly, the world will only have persocoms.

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Quote by MieshiI don't think I'd fall in love with a male persocom, and maybe I'd treat a female persocom nearly like a sister or good friend. I might also end up overworking them cos I'm under the illusion that they're machines, therefore they can stand the workload. Anyway, if anyone did fall in love with a persocom, I think it's ok, cos you don't have to have children to be happy or to fulfill your relationship. But this "positive" thinking will take a toll on our world and there will be many childless Persocom-human couples, and then slowly, the world will only have persocoms.

Yes, very well said, and there are still underlying problems branching out from these relationships, religion, human values, and all that. Adoption is an option to childless human persocoms but would the child understand that his new mother or father is a machine? Would the child be subjected to scrutiny from other children that will scar him for life? Humans are complex creatures that with insatiable emotions, there are times when what you say may turn out different when the situation calls for it. Anyway, thanks

i think that if you truly love someone... it doesn't matter if they are a robot or not... because to you... they are everything. and no on can change that

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I would like to have a persocoms they are a lot better than some humans.

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nope i guess i will not fall in love .

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1. Buy persocom.
2. Fall in love.
3. Buy more persocoms (children).
4. Chiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
im sick aren't i...

^ Yep. I personally won't get one or fall in love with one. Instead, I'll make a war machine to link with my biological body and call myself Ironman.

ITZ ALL GOOD YO.

I guess I would love to have one :) specially one like Sumomo. She's so cute and funny. I will certainly have a joyful day with having one of her in my pocket :D Big prosocoms? well I think I would have one of them as well. And maybe I would fall in love with him! It's kinda freaky -I know- But prosocoms are really harmless and don't think about anything but your well-being. It's very sad that such great characters -personalities- don't exist for real. They were/are the ideal companion that people -in Chobbits- seek, and maybe the reason why many people grew accustomed and attached to them.

I would Befriend it, take care of it, go on the web, support it, Make conversation with it Ext...
But i doubt i'd love it or anything, It would be pretty helpful for Research and stuff though, So overall : Yes I'd love to have a persocom :D

if,it is real,i will marrie female persocom just like mr. ueda

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