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EmpixusXast

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First, let's put across that Alchemy was an ancient form of chemistry during mediaeval times.
Then ,of course, any alchemists weren't able to transmute any element into another one because the level of the process is only molecular, that is the energy in account is far below the required level for transmutation. By making a generalization, farther in tiny scale the process needed to be done, much energy it necessitates to proceed it; between molecular and subatomic level, the scale of energy required consists of a drastic one. That's why it's so easy to create a high destructive atomic bomb with so few Hydrogen.
Now, if one continues with a historical event as regards the first unexpected attempt of transmutation, it leads us to the reknown Ernest Rutherford, an new zealander physicist who made an primordial experiment( indeed , he was more experimenter than theoritician) with a gold sheet as broad as 2000 aligned gold atoms( very very thin). Using an radioactive emitter protected inside a lead block whereon an orifice was bored , thanks to radioactive decay, the radiations ( alpha ray= 2 protons, beta ray= electrons , gamma ray= electromagnatic radiations) collided ( chiefly alpha rays) to the golden sheet. The other details are not needed. Even though it turned out that most of protons( alpha rays ) passed through without difficulty, the interesting fact remains he transmuted some gold atoms. Thus , He's the precursor of subatomic studies along many others physicists like Thomson, Albert Einstein, Max Planck etc.
At last , a little more exhaustive presentation of what exactly is this transmutation: id est BETA DECAY.
Enrico Fermi , discoverer of beta decay and supposedly great vulgarizer according his students, explained that the agitation is occuring at subatomic level . With precision , it's the transformation of a neutron into a proton.

( Why does this kind of decay happen? Knowing the famous Einsteinian relation between energy and mass of matter , E= mc2, more a particle has mass , more its energy is greater. In quantum physics , more a particle possesses energy , more its instability increases and tends to decay into a lighter particle. At this moment , notice that a neutron is heavier than a proton, therefore, its proclivity will be to decay into a proton, lightest particle of its kind( baryon). )

Ensuing the decay, there is emission of an electron and an antineutrino ( in particle physics , everything is energy transformations).
Here is the equation:
neutron -----> proton + electron + antineutrino
( I omitted usual logograms in question of simplicity)
Though I didn't globalize the kickback it might be : by getting another proton along another electron, we transmute one element to the next one, for instance, hydrogen to helium or Nitrogen to Oxygen etc.
Take for example the lead, which the fiend metal that alchemists wished so much to transform into Gold. Unfortunately, gold is three elements before lead and we said that beta decay transforms an element into the next one, so lead to Bismuth without attaining Gold.
Nevertheless , I didn't mention the second type of beta decay, wherewith one transform one proton into a neutron. In consequence, we step back in the periodical table and reaches the Gold by repeating the decay. Alchemists' dream was finally performed in the early 1900 and still in waiting position to be complete. I meant the production in 20th is constantly pitiful and we're far away of the industrial production of Gold by transmutation.

If I made blunders , please aware me in consideration I still don't take courses about Quantum Physics ( I'm too young for the moment being) and
Hope it's interesting and decipherable. ^_^

Tnaxus Xast
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merged: 07-09-2006 ~ 12:50pm
Forgotten to be mentioned:
I dunno how the main protagonist in FMA did his transmutations ; I just provided an explanations what's exactly transmutation.

EarthAngel1

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It may be possible afterall science and magic has existed since the dawn of time. and to me nothing impossible but i hope that if anyone discovers the secert to Alchemy they us it for good and not evil.

Tatsumi09

Tatsumi09

Seeker of Inner Peace

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It is possible through radioactive decay. Slow and unstable process, yet possible!

Ilovelucky

Ilovelucky

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who know ....since the philosifer stone is real , we all know nicholas flamel and his wife made it , so they talked about the stone in harry potter , then they made a show called fullmetal alchemist with two brothers searching for it , ed and al ....well alchemy may be real but i dont know i read it in a encyopeida book , and it said that the gyptians usto do alchemy . It can be real , but albert einstein only made electricity .........so i really dont think that he is an alchemist ....he is just a scientist .

merged: 07-09-2006 ~ 02:48pm
and the transmutation circle in fullmetal alchemist was just a decoration in the full metal alchemist show , but i am sure that they did do a sign .....or did they?

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In the 24th century Alchemy will be common place, you just have to ask the replicator for an item and instanly you have some substance transmutated into what you requested. (just joking, one for you star trek fans out there.)

shinmeiryu

shinmeiryuuuu~

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It would be cool if it was like FMA...
but if i would find some papers about alchemy...
some componends would not be known to some people....

Meow~

tobiast88

tobiast88

No patience for fools.

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The easiest element to turn to gold is... platinum. More expensive than gold.
Not to mention the fantastic amounts of energy, the ownership of a particule accelerator, and the ridiculously small amount of atoms you get back at the end of the process. Alchemy is NOT POSSIBLE, it is a mediaeval fantasy that FMA idiots like to spout out. The philosopher's stone is NOT REAL, and drawing circles with squiggles is not going to turn something into something else.

The only way you'll get a few atoms of gold is by shoving the equivalent of a bar of platinum in platinum atoms into a particule accelerator, making them smash against each other (an extremely expensive and extremely power-guzzling process) and hope you find two or three gold atoms in the aftermath. This is not cost efficient and certainly doesn't correspond to the idiotic FMA notion of "equivalent exchange".

Radioactive decay will NOT produce gold spontaneously from other metals because gold IS NOT RADIOACTIVE. The only way to change atoms in the way you are suggesting is through the particule accelerator.

Now stop watching stuff you can't handle and go back to Pokemon which is relatively harmless. Or are you going to look in the woods for Pikachu now?

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Aurielle

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breaking down molecules and atoms? could be possible than ever, since there are high possibility of ways, that humans may not covered out

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