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I definitely appreciate the religious/spiritual side of things, but this was once colloquially known as the 'Night Hag', where a person suffering from this would experience the feeling of someone sitting or pushing down on their chest, and the experience of being unable to move. Obviously, different cultures have different explanations for this, but....

IMO, the rolling eyes and paralysis are indicative of a certain stage of sleep you're in, where your body is unable to move for your own safety while you're in a particular stage of REM sleep, and I strongly suspect the voices you're hearing are due to you being in REM sleep, as someone else noted. Yes, I know your brain is actually awake at that point, but your body, and your brain is still part of your body (LOL!) is actually still asleep. This stage of sleep is normal and happens to you every night, you've just started becoming aware of it some of the time.

You do need to go to your parents to let them know, and you need to go to your family doctor. He or she will probably recommend you go to a sleep clinic (unless they're comfortable diagnosing this on their own, ack!), where the specialists will be able to a) *really* diagnose what's happening to you, and b) recommend a good treatment, whether it be behavioral or some form of medication (probably behavioral) to help you out!

And don't panic. This has been happening to people for centuries, and it's better to find out about something, no matter what it turns out to be, than to ignore it, because knowledge is power, and all that jazz. Good luck!

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Quote by Devildudeafter reading the hear the voices part. I suggest one thing, try to accept it as it is, this time, because when you have faced it more than enough times, i am sure you can find the words they are saying.
i am sure you can, try and listen hard, word for word. but first, when this happens, summon yourself to calm down. otherwise it will not exactly work if you panic.
fear is the consuming of logic, no fear, got logic, try and figure out, not that i am pushing to face it, but sometimes in life, it is good to go ahead and face things that you fear, just to understand what is it that you fear from it.

The reason why is because consider you have been seeing them since your a kid, I am sure you would have been used to it already.
the other thing is that I heard, (folklore wise) that when you can see them, they know you are seeing them. The things are that look, they have not hurt you so far in anyway, only apparations and forms of sound and sleep disturbance, they don't really cause physical harm, perhaps when you calm down to listen, things will be better and then they can tell you their problems.

Generally, as i have read. Spirits are lonely, they seek attention, probably the only reason why they are disturning your sleep.

and unless they needed to, i am sure they would refuse to actually disturb someone, which in this case, i think you may be missing a message. and what do you know, could be a long gone relative who loves you very much and decide to have a chat with you...? (jk)

oh well, much to what i can say, i hope it helps.
if you do find sleeping very distressing, do try asprins and sleeping pills, but don't get hooked onto them.

okey, the next time it happens, I will try to listion. the two days ago, it happened again, and tried to listion, but I got too scared and struggled even more, the longer I wait without the struggling louder the noises get. but the next time, I try to listion.

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I think perhaps this is similar to what BlkLotus was talking about in this thread, i have a question about sleeping?!?!

Quote by Ayasal I wake up and first I get really dizzy and then my eyes feel like its going up and down really fast, (I am fully awake so you can't say I was dreaming) and then and then I try to move but I can't and it feels like something is plushing me down....or whatever I just plainy CANT move. Then after about 30secs of trying to move, I start hearing stuff.... first there is a screching sound and then (the very first time) I was pretty sure, that I heard people talking and kids yelling (like in a crowded area) I got so scared..... my body wouldnt move no matter what I try and my eyes felt like it was going up and down and I hear stuff (at that point, my mind was in complete control) I reamber yelling in my mind and saying "what the hell......what the hell....!" and after then about 2mins it stops and I am able to move again.


This sounds very similar to what happens when people get sleep paralysis. PookyAlert seems to be describing the same thing in more medical language. Not everyone gets visions, but rest assured, there are others who do (you can read my post in BlkLotus's thread about one of my friends). I have a friend who used to get frightening visions when she got sleep paralysis (one time she saw the door open and see a dark faceless black figure appear, whom she automatically thought was some kind of demon, and very very slowly start to make its way toward her. All while she couldn't move.) but she sought medical help (but in Eastern medicine.. i'm not sure how well that suits you), and doesn't get sleep paralysis or the visions anymore. ^^

I also don't know if you should necessarily assume that the voices are that of ghosts.. From what I hear (I oddly have quite a few friends that too regularly have supernatural/freaky encounters) they are often two separate things.

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And it is definitely not schizophrenia. My goodness. Schizophrenia is an incredibly serious disorder - just because you get auditory hallucinations does not mean you have schizophrenia.

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It's called sleep paralysis, we studied it a little in Psych.

You see, when you go to sleep, your brain tries to temporarily paralyze your body. That way, when you're running around and doing all kinds of crazy things in your dreams, you aren't actually flailing like a madman. Think about it, if your body really moved around like it's doing in your dreams, you'd never get any sleep -_-

Sometimes, people wake up while their brain is still forcing their body to hold still. Talking from experience, it's a very strange feeling because you're awake and dreaming at the same time. Add to that the fact that, because you're dreaming and therefore your brain won't let your body move, it can be a positively terrifying experience.

Well, now that i've explained the problem, i'll have to disappoint you by saying that there's no sure cause or cure. Nervous energy is the most likely curlprit though. Exercise might help wear you out, or if you don't have the time for that, eating something (not spicy!) or taking a warm shower before you go to bed will help you relax.

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Well.....people only use 10% of their brains, perhaps you use more of it. I'm talking about the ghost-seeing here. It could possibly be signs of schizophrenia, but I'm not exactly sure. You know what schizophrenia is, right? Multiple personalities? But I think it'd be cool if you could like....see ghosts and stuff ;) But that's just me. Maybe you should see a doctor? :\

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it may be that sleep paralysis too! Up there ^

ahem... have you ever taken LSD^^ it causes things like you mentioned and gives backflashes but that couldnt be it cuz u said its nearly every monday right?

Ayasal, I highly suggest seeking medical help. I don't know anything about sleeping disorders though.

Since you said you were afraid to, atleast talk to your parents (like you said you were going to). Don't worry, it will be fine as long as you get some help from a professional. ^^

It's called Sleep Paralysis and it's often accompanied by hallucinations and voices. I've had it before and mentioned it to my doctor and he explained it to me. It has something to do with Narcolepsy, though having them does not indicate that you have the disorder. It is related to stress, though you might not realize what it is that is giving you the stress. As others, I suggest you mention it to your doctor and have him/her give you more information about what's happening.

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As outofphase said its probably sleep paralysis, I've experienced it a few times. It is a scary experience every time, being unable to move and all, but I wouldn't worry about an exorcism or being schizophrenic. If they're happening that much you should go see a doctor.

This place describes the symptoms:
http://www.stanford.edu/~dement/paralysis.html

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your not alone... that's happened to me and alot of my friends... in hmong, we say that it is a spirit that comes and "sits" on you. and if it constantly happens what we usually do is contact a shaman. but a good way to prevent it from coming back is to over power it. if it happens again just try as hard as you can to get up. Once you can move get up on your feet instantly. Once up just bravely shout something like "leave me alone" or "don't bother me" or anything. repeat as necessary, but do not lie back down until you no longer feel that pressence there... ionno, just thought you might be usfull to know... ..

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loner7148, try not to make stupid, sarcastic comments on a thread like this. She really needs some help and you're not helping by telling her that she should act like she's insane.

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Don't worry, it happened to me too. I've been hearing things in my house... and esp in my room where from time to time, I feel sth on my bed moving but it's not me... I feel it everyday. Don't worry about it.

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Quote by AkiraKahem... have you ever taken LSD^^ it causes things like you mentioned and gives backflashes but that couldnt be it cuz u said its nearly every monday right?

I never taken LSD, what is it? and yes it nearly happens every monday.

God, im starting to think my room is cursed........ or something
Yesterday when I was taking a nap in my room right after I am home from school, since I havent had enough sleep these past days and it never happened when I slep in the afternoon. x_x and then I suddenly wake up to a really bad pain on my left leg. It felt like it was getting ripped apart. but at that time....its really werid I just fell back to sleep for some odd reason. o_0 and after that my leg muscle became really sore and red. I really hope this has nothing to do with the noises I hear, since I have been running alot during PE. But it happened the same way as it, im really starting to freak out. I dont understand.

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me and my family strongly belive in the spiritual, and are devout christans. a while ago, my mom recommended a book to me called, He Came To Set The Captives Free by Rebecca Brown, MD. it seemed to shed light on what you are experincing through the christian point of view. i would elaborate, but i would only confuse what was written, so i suggest you read the book yourself. whatever you choose, i hope that you find a solution to your problem quickly, so that you can sleep peacefully again.

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Well the best advice I can give is a psychiatrist. Ive been to see one, and at first I was scared and thought that only crazy people go to see one. But if you have an ailment that you cannot explain and go to the hospital does that make you crazy?

With my experience the psychiatrist just listened and asked some questions and he quickly resolved the problem. So don't ever be scared to seek help because you think your crazy. You know you arent crazy right? Then your not crazy.

Also ive had a similar experience, when I was a child my parents lived out in the country. And every single night I would have the same nightmare where a completely grey man would come to my school and take away one of my friends, except every night the dream would continue where it left off without that one friend he took the night before. And a lot of times there were other nightmares besides that one. I complained to my parents but they did not seem to understand. One night I tried sleeping in the living room, and it did not happen. And it did not happen in any other house I have lived in. So including seeking the help of a psychiatrist I suggest sleeping in a different room and seeing if that will help.

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Sorry if I'm repeating something, but I didn't have a whole lot of time to read everything.
Scientific information that I have is that when your body goes through REM, all your muscles contract so that you won't hurt yourself while you're dreaming. You might be all the way asleep when this happens if you were really tired. Your body might be asleep while your mind is alert.
The feeling you described of being dizzy is probably a kind of vertigo. Your eyes gather information, but your brain may not be able to process it flawlessly, and that's why you get confused and dizzy and feel like your going up and down. It's not your eyes, it's your brain. And your brain might be getting confused due to the dark. IN the darkness, your eyes can't distinguish contrast. That might be part of why you're dizzy and feeling like you're going up and down.
The voices too might be in your mind, and you might not actually be hearing them. IF they sound like things you have heard before, then your brain might be touching on memories of sounds.
I'm not saying you're crazy at all. I have very realistic dreams myself and not been able to tell if they were real or not. Your brain is smart enough to trick you, even without meaning to, so you really could have only been dreaming. That doesn't mean you're crazy or that you shouldn't be afraid, it just means that there is probably nothing wrong.
You might also be having seizures, but I've never had any so I don't know what they are like.
As far as ghosts go: I personally believe that what will help most is to ignore the idea that they are spirits or anything that would try to hurt you. Not because I think they are not real, but because I believe spirits are weak against faith. If you know in your heart that you are stronger and that they can't hurt you, then they won't. Also, if what you're describing is really caused by stress, then being more afraid will only make it worse. You said it happens on MOndays, right? Wondays are often very stressful. You'd be surprised how many different side-effects stress can cause.
Also: check and see if you've started taking any kind of meds or pills. I took a pill for acne once and it made me feel like I was falling all the time. I was scared to death and thought I was losing my mind. But it stopped when I quit taking the pill and I felt so much better when I realized it had only been medication.

Good luck, buddy. I'm sure you'll be okay, and that nothing's wrong with you. Try drinking warm milk. I've heard it helps you calm down and sleep soundly.

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i had something similar to you. my eyes started getting dizzy then its like something heavy is on me and its getting hard to move. but i dun't think i heard voices though. dosn't happen very often.

freaky.....
do u live around a grave yard or somethin?

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do u live around a grave yard or somethin?


no, I dont think so....

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ah don't worry about it.its quite a common thing, feeling like you're being suppressed and cant move and hearing stuff.

i'm not sure of the reason but supersticious chinese give pretty reasonable answers

they say that when you feel like you cant move or breathe, its a ghost/spirit sitting on you.maybe because it's playing a prank or cos its telling you that you're gonna die.apparently, you're still alive so i think the ghost/spirit was plain bored.

as for the sounds, well, again the spiritual reasoning is that you started to get acutely aware of the spiritual beings around and so heard them.it could be caused by the ghost sitting on you and raising your alertness, since you can see ghosts anyway.

in asian countries, these spirit stuff is quite common and talked about so...it really isn't that big a deal.

of course it can be scary though.

but i think spoo's explanation is the sanest one of all XD

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Quote by alexjohnc3Ayasal, I highly suggest seeking medical help. I don't know anything about sleeping disorders though.

Since you said you were afraid to, atleast talk to your parents (like you said you were going to). Don't worry, it will be fine as long as you get some help from a professional. ^^


I agree, I'd love to say something that might help but the thing is, we only know what you've told us we arent actually there when it happens and also we are not professionals. We can give you reassurance and advice, i.e I'd like to say that maybe you should instead of trying to listen to the vioces, maybe you should try to ignore them, because it might be psychological if you go to bed thinking that it might happen its possible that you could make it happen by thinking that. But like I said I'm not a professional, and even if I was I would need to know more before I would know if I could help you or not. so I guess the only real advice I could give would be: see a doctor, or speak to someone close to you about it, who knows maybe even just telling someone might help it ease.
good luck I hope things get better soon.

Well, just take it easy man!
You're going to have an "astral trip". It's quite an amazing trip. But, I wonder how you open the portal of yours. You will travel to another dimension and meet another life form called "jin". They're quite amazing. But, they're familly of...you may call...satan. But, don't worry! They're quite different. But don't mess with them. You mess with one of them, the entire kingdom will go after you. I suggest you keep your mind calm. Don't use drugs, and one more thing...pray before you sleep. Cause they're everywhere, and I'm fraid you were taken by force. But, I see you have strong faith to your god deep inside your heart. Cause everyone I met, who have the same case, and they don't really have faith in their god, came into the possesion of "the other".
This is true.
And, one more thing. You're not alone.

haha, well it sounds like something that happened to my uncle...he was frozen for a few mins once and he couldnt move...he said he was consumed my a white woman and smashed the window coz he was straining so hard to get out of it...These days after a few minutes when i cant get to sleep i see a white thing, like a soft glow hovering about my bed, i look away and i cant see it, when i look back its still there, its fricken annoying! And scary!

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