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i don't know what's your opinion of the existance of god......
do you really believe god really existed?
look, this thread isn't here to offend any religion or something, it's just about your opinion about the existance of god.....
as a free thinker, i doesn't believe in the existance of god...
so, what's your opinion?

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My opinion - God exists and He always has.

  • Feb 24, 2006

Darowin

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Quote by kellyoMy opinion - God exists and He always has.

Like this MT user said...

In his opinion.

I think he does... But people should not go around asking for His ( or Hers, hey i am not here to judge) help.

Shamshiel

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My opinion - God is the construct of weak people, doesn't exist and never has.

  • Feb 24, 2006

JenosydesWhisperMatrix

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I think he does in fact I know he does and cannot argue because to believe in everything is in my religion.

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When you say its name out loud you can take away its power and some times end its life...

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The everlasting question....one out of many,why do we keep asking it? because we're always developing

Although i'm an atheist,i'm not anti-religion and respect most beliefs (and their aspects) of mankind as long as they're humane as possible and do not preach to harm others on an illogical basis without a proper explanation each man has the right to believe in what he wants to,it's the beauty of our diffrences.

anyways,going back to the subject
there have been too many speculations,but going back to the days when science was not evolved,people chose to believe that Events of nature were created by a great being,some will even divide the duties and roles among several gods.

The gauls for example believe that the sky might fall on their,A random tribe would believe that one a volcano erupts it means that god is angry,nowadays we have logical and scientifical explantions to most of it,whereas religion in a sense,stopped its deveolpment and left all of the explaining to the holy writings
( i use this term since i refer to the judaism,christinaty,Islam and any other religion that has its writing)
and god

the belief in god however led to the middle ages,where the priesthood was the ruler behind the curtains,manipulating Royalty whom were manipulating those weaker than them and stopping the technological advancements for centuries,that was because there was no distinction between religion and the state

nowadays it's unlikely to happen and there's a logical explanation for many things that happened in the holy writings) but it doesn't mean that religion and the belief in god is forbidden.

my 2 cents and i apologize in advance if i've hurt anybody,
Sumimasen.

  • Feb 24, 2006
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No gods . Carl Marks is a great man . i came from china . The gods , in other side , is man , just like a man wear a mask .

  • Feb 24, 2006
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he definitively exists, but not in the way the christian religion puts him. at least that's what i think. i think that god does not have to be seen as "the creator", for some poeple god is a puprose, a reason, hope, an action or the next bottle of whisky you know? so god in my opinion isnt something there like one person, one higher being that controles you, but you choose what is supposed to be your god. and of course god is in everybody because it is something in your live you cannot really explain, it's a feeling, sometimes a feeling of satisfaction, sadness or hate, but it is definitively something you for yourself define or create as god.

for a lot of people god for example is nothing different but the answer for all complex questions people do not want to deal with or cannot explain. remember that most religions are created hundrets of years ago where people did not have an idea what's going on. for other people god is a way to live. what you really believe in then is mostly the religion. the religion becomes your god telling you want to do, of course there must be a purpose in that so they put god even higher making him the creator of earth and humanity.

there is nothing wrong in that tho, because it is your choice what or who is your god, but as long as you live you always have a god, he wont answer you any quesions, but he will make you happy and from time to time angry.

so, if one can be open enough to say god exists in that kind of way, one can also say that god does not exist, because what he is actually saying is "the christian god does not exist". seeing it from my perspective the christian god can exist but does not have to, if he does i wont do him any harm, if he doesnt it doesn't matter to me.

to bring it to the point: god is, when you look at it in a very logical and clear way, an invention of our mind that influences our daily habits, thoughts and actions. we create him to explain things we cannot explain with logical reasoning, but as you see in the christian religion explaining something unlogical with something unlogical works out perfectly. so it's a psychological thing that the church makes use of to manipulate people to a certain standard of character which is definitively good.
so i want to conclude that the existence of god does not matter because god is a word for something that YOU create or have already created, influencing your psychology in every way.

  • Feb 24, 2006
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Quote by ShamshielMy opinion - God is the construct of weak people, doesn't exist and never has.

Let's applaude all those "weak" dumbasses who founded this great country - United States. What a bunch of feeble minded losers. Or the "weak" John Newton who was a brutal slave trader. I guess then during that time of his life you'd say he was a great, strong man. Somthing happened to him which resulted in his penning of the song "Amazing Grace." He also became a forerunner to defeating slavery. What a weak dork he was. Or George Mueller who's life took a "turn" and he dedicated the rest of his life to taking care of orphans. Let's see, to take care of those children who were left behind or abandoned by all those "stong" people. Thousands of lives he touched but what a "weak" fool he was. Or Doug Jackson who gave up a million dollar plus career in order to distribute un-used and donated medical supplies to thrid world countries. Millions of lives he has saved. What a fool. Or a man named Bruce Randolf who dedicated his life to feeding the poorest of the poor. He sold virtually everything to dedicate his life to this mission. Man, what an absolute idiot he was. Mother Teresa - let's don't even go there...I mean how weak is she. What about Martin Luther King Jr.? Now there's a total weakling.

  • Feb 24, 2006

starsaturn

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I know this sounds stupid but... I don't believe in God but I do believe in angels :)

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I personally don't believe in God, well, this Christian god anyway. I think that if you think there is a god, then there is one. If you don't, then there isn't one for you. I think it's just the person's own matter of opinion and i think it's nice to believe that there's a place for you after you die.

  • Feb 24, 2006
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I have no religion and I don´t believe in god or any spiritual force.
But that is just my opinion! ^^

  • Feb 24, 2006

Lightaura

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If god exists then why must he/she/it stay hidden from us and not show himself so we can or officially acknoledge his existence there for proving it.

Human alchemy is just like the sun get to close to it and your gonna get burned.

  • Feb 24, 2006
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Quantum mechanics suggests that there must be a superficial being outside of what encompasses the universe to verify the existence of the universe and all beings within it. That is because we need one that is not ourselves to confirm our existence, and for any event we witness, we also require a third party to validate its occurence. I'm hoping that some genius, greater than Einstein, to come along and prove the theory wrong. Else, i'd have to do it myself. :hmpf: XP

  • Feb 25, 2006

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kellyo: i can argue about that....(eh... have you notice i have been answering your posts lately? wonder why.....)

sry if being offensive ad stuff but it is partial truth here
okok.... wat makes you think that they are not weak in the first place...
that they do not need God to do good?...
and also... have you wonder if they would do the same if they join another religion? or another believe? is it really God's word that push them hard to be strong or is it human nature to be strong in faith?

and also... pls note that not everyone believing god is as "strong(my opinion too!)" as they are... and i would like to credit all other who are in other religions or non at all on their contribution to the soceity even if it is little(not all ppl can have a million dollar.... my charity soceity give up his career and future as a doctor to help out (without pay) in charity in a third world country.... ) ...... its not about how much we give but how much we give up!

anyway.. back to topic...

I am neutral... havent decide if a creator really existed... coz it may be a possiblity but i dont think the creator will be the absolute creator of himself and the world......

also...interesting thing to add.... anyone played starcraft... if you read the storyline of the whole game... Xel Nexus created Zergs who them destroy them... might we have destroyed our creator too?

  • Feb 25, 2006
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Quote by Let's applaude all those "weak" dumbasses who founded this great country - United States. What a bunch of feeble minded losers. Or the "weak" John Newton who was a brutal slave trader. I guess then during that time of his life you'd say he was a great, strong man. Somthing happened to him which resulted in his penning of the song "Amazing Grace." He also became a forerunner to defeating slavery. What a weak dork he was. Or George Mueller who's life took a "turn" and he dedicated the rest of his life to taking care of orphans. Let's see, to take care of those children who were left behind or abandoned by all those "stong" people. Thousands of lives he touched but what a "weak" fool he was. Or Doug Jackson who gave up a million dollar plus career in order to distribute un-used and donated medical supplies to thrid world countries. Millions of lives he has saved. What a fool. Or a man named Bruce Randolf who dedicated his life to feeding the poorest of the poor. He sold virtually everything to dedicate his life to this mission. Man, what an absolute idiot he was. Mother Teresa - let's don't even go there...I mean how weak is she. What about Martin Luther King Jr.? Now there's a total weakling.

[/quoteVery funny. But can I ask if you really think all those people you've mentioned were strong because of religion, and christianity? Do you really think the church was the cause for their sudded enlightenment? I believe that goodness comes from the mind, and heart. I feel sorry for people who believe in god because they are afraid, afraid of death, the afterlife. I feel sorry for those high ranking church people who get involeved in crime and politics.Neverthelss, I think the previous Pope really believed in what he was doing,and his influence on the world was in short remarkable. To sum up, you do what your conciousness allows you to do, many people do so much bad from the desire to do good, that they forget the difference between those two meanings. Religion in its present form may still serve as a true guide to finding a "right" way, the only thing we have to do is not get lost.

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i dunno, but i definitely believe that there is always someone above everyone else.

what is loneliness anyway?

  • Feb 25, 2006

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kash: i agree so much with that....

religion is not bad or anything.... it is the believers' fault coz they stop learning when they think being in a religion stops them from doing bad things... like crimes... but in fact they need more than that... they will need to learn how to control and use their religion.... all the same religion also represent someone's morality or thought.... if they cant use them well... they cant use their mind well....

true believers would use wat their religion give them to understand this and decide wat is good and bad....

20cents...

  • Feb 26, 2006
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I don't "believe" that God exists. I "Know" that God exists. There's a difference.

  • Feb 26, 2006
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Quote by RubyDrg0nkash: i agree so much with that....

religion is not bad or anything.... it is the believers' fault coz they stop learning when they think being in a religion stops them from doing bad things... like crimes... but in fact they need more than that... they will need to learn how to control and use their religion.... all the same religion also represent someone's morality or thought.... if they cant use them well... they cant use their mind well....

true believers would use wat their religion give them to understand this and decide wat is good and bad....

20cents...

so..... sorry that i had to say that, why did human plan on a war again each other's religion, like the civil war (war of christian against islam) do you think human can decide good and bad just from religion? and is WAR something good? does GOD or whatsoever tell you to do that?
NO! and absolutely wrong! Although i didn't believe in god, we still have to respect other's religion or custom, but not to go on war cauz you don't like it or the religion you're in have some misunderstanding with others' religion and etc.....

and god isn't for weak ass or something....... it's only their free will to believe in it..... and those good samaritan aren't helping others cause they believe in god..... it's just born from their kind heart..... so, just don't call them dumbasses.....

I'm incomplete,
I'm a hybrid,
I'm the demi-god,
I'm ONIGAMI!

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ultima-weapon:have to agree with that... but did you use my post as an argument or a support?

also i do not refer to all(important word) believers as dumbass... (i think Kash too.... coz he is refering to all those "dumbass"(pardon me) believers who mixed up desires and religions) coz ppl can be kind and gentle with wat they have too..... and i dont think ppl are born evil or sinful as the Christian religion suggested..... coz even if they do... they are also born good and kind.....

also... wanna make a comparison but doing that in another thread....

  • Feb 27, 2006
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Quote by vincent214I don't "believe" that God exists. I "Know" that God exists. There's a difference.

Then you are not a religios person, because religion is deffined a way in believing in the existing of a supernatural being, or force, of some sort.. you are like the priest that wanted Jesus to prove to them that he was gods son and because unly then would they belive in him.. so wether god exists or not is irellevant but beliving that he does is not.

and this comes from a non believer..

  • Feb 27, 2006

Kuro-kun15

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Ooh. My opinon is....God does exist! Yay for me! ^^ I love god...@_@ He loves me. But I do have a question...But it is off topic so forget that. ^^;

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  • Mar 14, 2006
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I believe in any of the gods just as much as I do the IPU, just as much evidence to justify both. If you don't know what the IPU is, look it up.

  • Mar 14, 2006

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