Quote by KelenaI would have to
agree with S-a-c-h-i-e-l, in that lies aren't a big deal if they aren't serious, but serious things require truth. Plus,
telling the truth makes things so much easier because the person doesn't have to create a whole senario to fit around
their lie.
Well said, Kelena, and I totally agree with you. Certainly, you nailed this topic firmly
on the head. By telling the truth, you can also ease the burden of digging yourself into a much bigger hole [which may
in fact bring up doubt / criticism from others, including more problems that may be encountered down the road as well],
and that you don't have to lie even further when you do actually stick with whatever you stand on [and that you don't
have anything to worry about when you decide to speak out towards others].
As for lies, everyone has made lies in their previous lives before, some more frequently than others, but because mainly
many of them could still be disregarded as "negligible" in today's society, since many fairly smaller lies
doesn't really make a significantly profound and negative impact directly towards many others individuals, many people
would suddenly conclude that it wouldn't be that big of a deal to think about it in the
long run and could easily drop that case in a heartbeat. Of course, then you have the if's and do not's,
"forgive-and-forget" concerns that I probably shouldn't drag onwards in this topic here. **Snickers** You get
the picture.
If you do worry so much about what you lied about, then it's obviously in your human nature and collaborative mind to
stop it before the situation progresses even worse, and that's what many of the people mainly expects from others in
general. That's just the way we are, and yes we are all capable of lying to a very minor extent. Obviously, it isn't
always good to lie without proper reasoning, and that everyone isn't perfect, you know, which is why I would consider
smaller, daily seldom "would-be considered" lies not to be severe as a couple of people claim it to actually
be, depending on the severity of the scenario, of course. It could even lead to silly events such as denying to ever
eating all the donuts, to borrowing a game without asking another person's actual permission. There are a lot of people
who do it, and it only comes naturally at times, I won't deny that. Back to the previous question:
Quote by PAcheso what is your
definition/idea of truth and lies?
Truth - Something that evidently holds true in every circumstance
and is authentic in proof every which way. Questionable truth should not be confused and intertwined with
"actual" truth.
Lies - Something made up from scratch to persuade one individual to believe you. Lies vary from things people wish to
cover up, to things people want to make up from the top of their head. It differentiates in substance,
virtually.
A little off topic; but what really interested me is what the threadmaker, PAche had to say. It had something to do
about "trying to prove" that whatever this person had to say had to be utterly truthful, and that he or she
will go the distance into making sure that everyone would believe him / her, quoted from above [by no means of offending
you, I hope I grasped your idea accurately over here]:
Quote by PAcheand i've tried to
justified myself to myself already so to not type so much, just take it that i have proof to my point.if you don't
believe me, i'll show you.but mostly i want to know how you feel about it, them,
whatever.
Unfortunately, the reality and news flash about your issue you wish to bring up here is
that there are some people truly out there who will never, ever be convinced about what you are trying to say to be the
most utmost and truthful in words, no matter how hard you are willing to prove
it. Some don't even wish to believe such people, unless they are best buddies and friends with that particular
individual, or have even met them in person - who knows? **Shrugs** Even if you do already know this or not, you'll have
to accept the fact that you cannot virtually please everybody by trying your hardest to prove who you are or what you
say to be be absolutely infallible and authentic, as there are others out there in the world who will never be
convinced. Mind you, that if someone like you people out there begin to get insulted by speaking out against what
somebody else might consider "an utmost lie," give up the argument, rather than to try to prove your case on
your very own. You can't really change the ways of how a person thinks, especially one who is completely known to be
ignorant [yes, there are even people like those who do exist out there], and that there's no need to start going against
another person's opinion by making it an extremely personal issue. Some people will try to get under your skin and
irritate you by constantly thinking you are a complete and utter liar, as a result. Rather than continue the lop-sided
discussion, it would be best to convert your energy and efforts elsewhere. It's never good to try to prove everything
out when someone seems to deny what you claim, and as long as you have spoken the truth, don't let anything get to you
while attempting to move onwards. Life is like that - a lot of people are like that, and unfortunately enough, not
everything falls perfectly into a tangible line.