Quote by orpheuzWell, I have fun reading your post :).
Quote by DarkIngramHumans were created with free will, that is, with the ability to choose.
Agree. That's the difference of us to other living creatures. God gave us the power to decide. So it's our choice(*again a decision to make) whether to use it properly or not. Looking back at the history of mankind, human really uses his decision-making. "It's a matter of choice" why we are situated in such situation. You see, Eve can just ignored the apple and left it alone. Same as through in Adam's case. Truly, every action must be accompanied with corresponding responsibility. That's why Adam and Eve must face their consequences in the form of eviction in the paraside, aging so-on and so-forth. You may be asking why God created the so-called "Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil" in the first place? Why, can God just not create such tree so we humans can't be tempted and sinned against Him? Well, basically this is to test us, humans. Really, God can just took part in their(*Adam/Eve) lives so we can't be put in such situation. But, He wants us to live independent and as stated free-will, NOT being controlled. That's why, He allowed Adam to take care the paradise. Actually God can just take care the land but He still let Adam do the job. This points out that He not only trust us but also He wants us to be not so dependent in His power. A follow-up question, what can He do if He can't do such things? Well, he can guide us. Yes, Guide us. If you will look in the Bible, God had warned(*which means He's guiding us to the right path) us about that tree...here's what stated: "And the lord God commanded the man saying, of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat. But of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not it eat for in the day that thou eatestthereof thou shalt surely die" Gen 2:16-17. Surely, Adam and Eve were truly aware of this but they still fall in the hands of the evil one. Again, you may be asking why God hadn't stopped the two? As said, He do wants us to be independent. Not only that, He wants us to imply that our choices is our responsibility...and we have to take whatever the consequence lies ahead.
About your question, why not think that such sufferings are 'blessings'. Without sufferings, we humans can't improve and make ourselves strong as a mountain. Plus, without sufferings, what will become of the world? Surely it will be boring, no challenges and hindrances. Just think of it x_x
Well here's a nice quote: "If you fall 10 times, stand up 11".
Nice point, you've got something productive in mind! :D And i really appreciate the Bible text you've
shared...decisions must be take seriously and the main point there is Obedience..our first parents didnt obey God, they
are being warned to that fruit(that's not an apple anyway, the Bible didnt give a specific name for that
fruit),they knew what will be happening to them if they disobey, but what did they do? They still disobe God and obey
the Devil..
Again their disobedience resulted sufferings of mankind x_x
and thus we are now experiencing it.
Your point regarding your quote is nice..sufferings makes us strong...Sufferings helps us to cleave more to God and ask
for His guidance, for strenght and for His Holy Spirit to guide us to make WISE decisions, decisions that willl truly
give Him glory! :)
This will be a Good Fight againsts the Evil...if we will win, reward is at hand and we can gain everlasting life in
Paradise on earth in the near future. :D
merged: 05-24-2006 ~ 09:23am
Quote by lapukits a question that will never be answered by anyone else. the answer can only come from deep within you, what you believe in and what faith you adhere to is what your answer will depend on..
I dont agree with you, the Bible answers that question..
Try to scan the Bible and you'll be surprise..
It depends on you if you just let your mind stay stagnant on what you believe,but if you are really interested I'm
sure you'll find the answers! :D
I do hope that you will heed my advice... ^_^'
merged: 05-24-2006 ~ 09:36am
Quote by tsukasa888Yet another strange question.
First of all, God never caused us to suffer. We made our own suffering !
And then, who do we think we are? Something higher than God so that He has obligation to prevent us from suffering?
He created us to live ! And to live means to experience joy and suffer.
So if you feel suffering, don't blame God ! Don't say "why God allow us to suffer?", because that was not His obligation from the first place.
It's our obligation to live the best we can, following His rules. Not demanding "if You really exist, then stop my suffering"
Well you're right but Darkingrams point is that; he just ask different opinions from different members..because he
is aware or what is really happening nowadays..you see lot of people blamed God if ever there will be happening
injustices in thier lives.
Darkingram believes in our Creator and he dont want that our Creator are to be blame in our world's
injustices.
If only you get his point, he is on God's side and is ready to defend Him no matter what! ;)
And I'm sure you too will do the same thing! :)
