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Pluto Not a Planet?

Should Pluto stay planet or be labeled a Dwarf?

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Hiraku-San

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Anyway since this news came along i might as well add this... i was wondering if you heard of the recent theory the scientist has made about the whole galaxy being envelope in this thing they term it as "dark matter" i knew it was fairly recent just could not find it in the newspaper or anything... heard in the radio news half awake actually ^_^

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I just consider it a planet. *Shrug*

I think it's still a planet, according the post on some website (can't verify if it's true) to be consideret a planet a blue body (is that what they call stuff in space ?) must be 800km in diameter and at least 1/12,000 or earths mass.

Bisuketto

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To refer to the definition fluke posted... those four rules that governed what is a planet and what isnt is purely semantics. And is why those scientists can change their minds I guess. Its like the 'light' argument... I heard on the news their main argument is that it doesnt follow the normal orbit path or the like. This would be useful for astromomers, who can remove it from equations and such, but otherwise I have to agree with EA that to the normal person it is just a label. Although I feel sorry for Pluto, I will not lose much sleep over it.

ps: I also heard they were going to include more planets into our solar system? did this occur?

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Well, if those world-class astronomists have decided, then we should go with it... But I kinda agree with them.... It's too small to be a planet.
If I were to vote, then dwarf planet is the best choice.

However, if Pluto is not considered a planet anymore, then how should we go with Charon? :\

According to a Nasa panel i went to about planets... Pluto is considered not a Planet. They demoted it to a Dwarf Planet for science sake. It is considered a Clasic Planet. Due to the fact they are re-defining what clasifies asa planet and Pluto doesn't fall into those catagories but they know the population would revolt at the idea of being taught lies they made it a Clasic Planet and scientifically lable it a Dwarf Planet. Pluto actually has 3 moons named Charon, Nix, and Hydra which is what is part of what defines a planet.

A planet that is recognized by the population as a planet. the 10th "planet" that they are trying to define but will probubly also be considered a Dwarf Planet. i think they called the planet Sedna. We aparently stole it from another slar system just like we did pluto.

Pluto and Sedna are both considered trans-Neptunian object - object in the solar system that orbits the sun at a greater distance on average than Neptune. they define it "on average" because Pluto is closer to the sun than Neptune for a short period of it's rotation. Which ended 6-7 years ago I believe.

The planets are placed in catagories

Neptune, Uranus, Saturn, and Jupiter
Gas Giant - majority of its mass is in the form of gas (or gas compressed into a liquid state)

Mercury, Venus, Earth and Mars
Terrestrial - primarily composed of silicate rocks

ok... I think I got to too many panels about science.. so i'll stop my rant for now

oh no! I'm a scorpio what am I goin' to do?!
anyway...about pluto being booted out from being a planet, I think it's wrong they should have debated more about give pluto the title planet if they even had the possiblity of takin' that title away. but in a way I guess it's okay since pluto is only a small chunk of ice anyway.

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Leading astronomers declared Thursday that Pluto is no longer a planet under new guidelines that dictate that a planet is "a celestial body that is in orbit around the sun, has sufficient mass for its self-gravity to overcome rigid body forces so that it assumes a ... nearly round shape, and has cleared the neighborhood around its orbit." Pluto, disqualified because its orbit overlaps with Neptune's, and therefore has been classify as Dwarf Planet as dragonacid16 and fluke wrote.

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one thing that confuses me about all of this is that if pluto is not a planet, how can they agree that some asteroid thing that is like a spere is a planet? cos appartanly there is three new planets?

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It doesn't matter that much what astronomy decides, since it's a separate thing from astrology (though they are very linked)

The link between the two broke almost four hundred years ago.

I for one think astrology is buckus anyway, one thing which confirms this is the fact that most charts used to derive horiscopes and such are three thousand years out of date.

Let me put it into perspective. I was born in late April. According to mainstream astrology my corresponding sign should be taurus....however since there is a 26,000 year cycle in which the Earth's axial wobble changes the positions of the constellations in the sky, my "true" sign is then pisces. This is but one argument against the validity of astrology.

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Quote by Hiraku-SanAnyway since this news came along i might as well add this... i was wondering if you heard of the recent theory the scientist has made about the whole galaxy being envelope in this thing they term it as "dark matter" i knew it was fairly recent just could not find it in the newspaper or anything... heard in the radio news half awake actually ^_^

Dark matter has been a topic of healthy debate within cosmology and astronoy throughout the last twenty to thirty years. Here is what dark matter is believe to be in a nutshell.

Many of us are already aware that the Universe is expanding and has been since the Big Bang some 10 to 20 Billion Years Ago. Thus, it is of interest to know if this exapnsion will continue or brake to a stop and reverse itself (the Big Crunch hypothesis). So to derive a hypothetical model all the physical matter in the Universe was summed together and it was found that such matter constitutes only a 1/3 of Total mass of the Universe. This is insufficent to allow gravity of all the objects in the Universe to slow down the Expansion, the rate of which is increasing. Therefore, the remaining 2/3 must be enhancing this growth (probaby due to some anti-gravity properties). Yet because it is beyond our level of ability to detect it, thus it is dubbed dark matter.

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As far as I'm concerned those scientists can go to hell.

Pluto is and always will be a planet, it was found in 1904 or some where back at that time and these other objects weren't following a predictable path as such. Scientists will usually admit they're wrong on unimportant stuff like this, but rarely change their views on the big stuff out of pride and arrogance.

Just think in a few thousand years they might find reasons to take Earth off the planet classification. And I refuse to call that 10th planet by it's sucky choosen name, it will always be called Lucifer to me as some good sci-fi already named it that.

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Pluto was discovered in 1934.

Up until now we had no concrete definition of a planet. It is good that we now have one. Granted it may change too....but I doubt any future changes will render rocky planets larger then Mercury (Earth is a member of that familiy) as anything else but planets.

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I guess Dwarf planet would be fine. It has the word planet in there.

According to a poster in another forum

Quote by posterNASA scientists thought this whole thing was bullshit. They've joined others in starting a petition to reinstate Pluto's planetary status.

Two problems they had:

1) The 'vote' was taken on the last day of this conference when many had already departed. It wasn't even a planned vote.

2) NASA said the prospect of trying to define the difference between a planet and a dwarf planet was ridiculous. The similarity in definitions was asinine. The used the example of classifying humans as "human" or "dwarf human" - in that they had the same characteristics with minor differences.

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But, but it has to be a planet. Setsuna lives there, right?! XD

Quote by griffonPluto was discovered in 1934.

Pluto was named in 1930 by Venetia Phair when she was 11 years old.
Today she is 87 and has she decided to become a scientist because of it?

No, she decided to become a teacher. :)

And her thoughts about this...

Quote by Venetia Phair"At my age, I've been largely indifferent to [the debate]; though I suppose I would prefer it to remain a planet."

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melikecookies

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dwarf planet is fine. It is pretty small. >.>

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solidvanz

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pluto is a planet, not some drifty large object around milky way!

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I'm going to be ignorant and say "I was taught in school, that Pluto was a planet, so it IS a planet." XD
As for the Scorpio thing, maybe it mean's you're unique/different to others?

well... i think pluto is a dwarf or......maybe a planet.......or a dwarf.....er i m so confused

Shinsengumi89

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No it is not a planet its a dwarf planet, ive thought it should have been called something lower then a planet.

It does not fit thescientific mold of a planet, as long as science grows so will its definitions of objects, so of course they changed it, they have more information.

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i just wanna say, that i think its a waste of money, finding out if pluto is a planet or not, we need that money instead of wasting it on astronomical research.....so yeah, and its kinda stupid, to me at least, i mean i was raised in astronomy hearing "pluto is the ninth PLANET from the sun etc etc.) so why all of a sudden say pluto is not a planet? it's really stupid, this is why i hate science....T.T

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I want it it to be a planet :'( ... Well that's how I'll remember it at least :)

What happens if we turn Jupiter into a star (dwarf star :S)? Does its moons become Planets? and will we still be a soloar system? ... lol :D

Elves

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I mourn the passing of Pluto as a planet. I seem to remember the debate coming up back when I was in high school - almost ten years ago - and then it went away. Apparently every scientist who cared wanted to disprove Pluto being a planet. I'm kind of sad that it's been reclassified as a dwarf planet, but maybe this will bring out more information about what's out there with it.

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