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Anjhurin

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Dear members, time to vote for the 10th monthly display of the DSC, so please, send your votes to me as soon as possible.
Voting time will be open till wednesday the 13th, so please take your time to check out every entry, and make your choice a carefull one !

*On a side note, we'll soon (in 2+ months) be having the 12th display, which might lead to having a "year round award" for best colored and best regular doujins, putting all the monthly winners into battle, not with their winning entries, but with brand new ones.
The participants would have a month-long period of time to enter the "year round display", and it would be a single round battle....*
Those above are just suggestions / thrown-around ideas, so if you have any input or thoughts on the whole thing, please share them here !

Second side note : Rikka san ( http://rikkablurhound.minitokyo.net/ ) has proposed that DSC and Free-Wallers ( http://free--wallers.minitokyo.net/ ) become affiliates, which seems to be a good idea. So i'd like to have your thoughts on it, so maybe we can organize joint events in the future !

Third side note : last minute call = please check this thread and the input chara san has written Minitokyo Mascot Background Contest
Any pumped up artists / writters ready to take up the challenge ?

Finally, i now declare the 11th display open, so please send links to your entries to pegassuss, ephemeral-garden, ryuuen, glassheart or me ^_^

Take care :D, and keep supporting !

PS to new members, if you don't know how the display works, check the guidelines in the DSC page (basically, you can vote for one colored and one regular work)

  • Sep 05, 2006

charaznableamurorei

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Lol! Hey! Hardworking anjhu-sama! *hugs* "Sama" in my language is the root word of "evil", so it's kinda interesting when it's appended to a name as the Japanese do... "sama" in Japanese=uber-respectful person, "sama" in Tagalog/Filipino=evil ... ^^^

Quickie comments and opinions!
(1) 'Supports the yearender thing! Promo girl of doujinshi reporting for duty, sirs and ma'ams!

(2) DSC-Free-Wallers affiliation (and any affiliation for that matter): This is gonna sound crazy, but since the DSC has this open policy of "supporting doujinshi everywhere" and since any MT group deemed by any certain member to be also very supportive of indy art, then the affiliation's really automatic? But I guess DSC people will have to talk more about this... ummm, whose groups is the DSC 'affiliated' with right now? Do we need to have like an 'official affiliation policy/rule'? Why can't we just list those groups who DSC people think are doujinshi-supportive and put them on the DSC page?

(3) Yay! By the way, did anyone from the DSC or any other doujinshi/drawing group in Minitokyo got invited to draw drafts or whatever of the MT Mascot? I was kinda disappointed that a non-MT member was chosen to draw it... so my proposal was, why not doujinshi artists make their own rendering, or draw their own versions of the MT Mascot as a response to the thread? Why don't we voluntarily show people what our artists got, ne?

(4) Voting! ^_^ Voted via glassheart!

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  • Sep 05, 2006

fireflywishes

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1. Ooo yes, that sounds like a fine idea!

2. I kinda agree with charaznableamurorei on this one... But I think it'd be a great idea! :)

3. Oh, really? It wasn't drawn by a member from MT? (sadly I wasn't able to dL it because I'm on dial-up right now and the file is so big! Does it look good?)

4. Voted as well! Hope you get lots of votes coming in Anj! :D

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Ayamael

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1) well, if the winners draw new pics, I guess it eliminates any unfairness (those who won more than once over the year in the same category... but honestly, I don't think I'd be up to drawing a new one, especially since I didn't draw at all in a while... but maybe that'll change...

2) I also agree with Chara, I don't really understand what purpose such an affiliation would serve... but in a way, I don't really care ^_^'

3) Yes, I was also disappointed to realize that the contest didn't really concern doujin artists much (unless they have photoshop and illustrator, which I personnally don't (I couldn't even open the stupid file, so thanks to Chara for giving me a peak) >.<... not that I could participate, but I thought it was a bit unfair... I also found odd that they didn't give us her history, nor who made it in the first place...

4) not sure if I can vote, I still have something else a bit more urgent to attend to tonight at all costs because I'm leaving tmr (hope Chara and Anjhu get what I'm talking about ^_^')... . I noticed there are many good submissions this time around... my life really really sucks at this moment

Anjhurin

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Update on the "Year round display" : a little thought occured to aya and I, which is how many entries are allowed per perticipant ? Will it be only one entry, or one per category (regular, colored) ?
The problem being that some artists are 'specialized' in a certain area (regular, colored), while others are apt in both, thus leading to unfairness if some can submit 2, and others only 1 :)

Another thing : i think that the voting should be the same as it has been for the monthly display (DSC members voting), but do you think we should have it in a more 'secret' manner (judging from a selected panel of judges, possibly elites / mods) ? Or multiple judgings, like the class contest (a MTwide vote, a 'secret' vote from selected judges etc...) ?

Please comment and drop your 2 cents !

  • Sep 05, 2006

charaznableamurorei

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(3) Lol, fireflywishes and everyone, I might be violating some copyright rules on this, but hey, Minitokyo members want a sneak peek right now... and besides, it's Minitokyo's mascot, so...

( Minitokyo Mascot original image and thumbnail copyright Minitokyo )
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/charaznableamurorei/minitokyo_mini-mascot.jpg

In my view, although it kinda is offensive that MT doujin artists weren't given the chance to design the mascot, maybe we could move beyond it? And try to create (what do we call them?) "homage art/fan art" on her... since (ok, speech time!) that is the power of indy art... doujin artists have the potential of bypassing the strict confines of copyright... by imbuing their own special take on an image sold and bought to the death... doujinshi artists pay homage to their sisters and brothers who are also artists... so what do you think, people? Shall we make a response to the MT Mascot contest by making our very own rendering of the mascot based on the design adopted by the mods/admin? Rephrase that... can we? ^^^ *ends speech!*

(2) I hope people with better webpage skills volunteer with the whole "affiliation/support box" thing.

(1) Hey! Two centavos (cents) here! Can we do the "Year Round Display" like this? This is kinda inspired (ok, copied from! Gomen, flyindreams!) by the w.a.r. contest going on... Hey! Silly sidenote: support the w.a.r.! Doujin artists are giving it their all there! The w.a.r. is about to end, so watch out for that! ^^^

So, the DSC organizers-slaves-promo gals and guys can put in a separate group the doujin artists who would be submitting single entries? And another group for the more prolific doujiners? Also, this is just purely a thought: many doujiners here who know they're less-skilled compared to others are kinda put off when really-good (at least according to standards) doujins have been submitted... so, I was thinking if the yearender would accomodate this little consideration? What about we give the artists the option to choose whether they want to join the, ermmm, "lightweight class" (artists who consider themselves less-skilled compared to others) and "heavyweight class" thing? LOL! My offline friend who's a maniac at carpentry and boxing suggested this right now! lol! Please suggest better names! Trash mine, lol.

Proposed Groups/Titles/Awards for Year Round Display... Please Please Suggest Better Titles and Names!

1. One-Hit Wonder Award - Lightweight!
One-Hit Wonder Award - Heavyweight! (sounds stupid ... maybe translate this into Japanese, so it would sound, erm, 'cooler'?)
- for artists who submitted only one entry in b&w and colored categories

2. Horn of Amalthea Award - Lightweight!
Horn of Amalthea Award - Heavyweight!
- for artists who submitted multiple entries in b&w and colored categories
- I was thinking about Cornucopia, being like 'plenty/prolific'? And the connect is, artists who churn out doujins like mad are like that, Amalthea, who has the cornucopia?

Just some suggestions! Trash them if you want!

On the voting: yes-ness on the "secret vote" from selected judges! Also, let's make the whole yearender display thing voting open to all MT members!

Ummm... that was more than 2 centavos? O_O

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  • Sep 06, 2006

Rikkablurhound

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(1) O_O Cool! XD
(2) Well, hope U guys can really accept the afiliation... >_< theres no rules in particular but we do require the mod/admin here to drop in once a while... >_<
(3) Feel like it, but my internet connection is slow, takes time to dwld
(4)Huhu... Will try for it XD
working on a doujinshi now XD

Wapy

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those are nice ideas! Keep them up~!

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Wapy's around.

charaznableamurorei

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Hey thanks Wapy!

Rikka-chan, on the MT Mascot thing, you can take a peek at the DSC email.

On Proposal (2) re: Support these MT Groups who Support Doujinshi! box thing:
I've gone thru the Groups section of MT to find groups who, by their own efforts and inclinations, are to be deemed automatically as "Supporters of Doujinshi". If anyone has objections, just please say so, ok? Please suggest an MT group that I've missed and that we can support, too.

Also, what else can we do to make the list more fun?


Proposed, Incomplete List of Art Groups Supportive of Indy Art/Doujinshi (started 7 September 2006)
(compiled from the Art group subsection; arranged by timestamp/date founded)

Romance-Battle : http://romance-battle.minitokyo.net/ -- accepts doujinshi depicting romance and battle themes

GundamModelClub : http://gundammodelclub.minitokyo.net/ -- promotes CG'd mecha stuff

The-Planning-Board : http://the-planning-board.minitokyo.net/ -- year 2006's host group of the Wallpaper and Art Revolution (w.a.r.), now having an annual doujin competition running alongside the wallpaper contest!

New-Mangaka-Generation : http://new-mangaka-generation.minitokyo.net/ -- obvious!

Artists-Viewers-United : http://artists-viewers-united.minitokyo.net/ -- obvious!

Doujin-Arena : http://doujin-arena.minitokyo.net/ -- obvious!

Free--wallers : http://free--wallers.minitokyo.net/ -- Since Rikkablurhound wanted the DSC to affiliate with Free--wallers and since it features doujinshi on its pages, then go go go!

Writers-MT : http://writers-mt.minitokyo.net/ -- drawing with minds is still doujinshi! XD

Schattenrand : http://schattenrand.minitokyo.net/ -- Quoting from the group's 'Ideal' section, "As such, a nomination system will exist to weekly display one noteworthy submission--be it Wallpaper, Scan, or Original Art--on the group's page." ^_~

Colorfull-Wallies : http://colorfull-wallies.minitokyo.net/ -- features a doujinshi competition in their regular 'Magic the Battle Ground' event

UniversalMangaProyect : http://universalmangaproyect.minitokyo.net/ -- obvious!

Deviants : http://deviants.minitokyo.net/ -- obvious! (Deviants' a group of people who are both MT and deviantART members.)

NewWaveProject : http://newwaveproject.minitokyo.net/ -- Quoting from their page, "A place for wallers and artists trying to escape the standards..."

Canvas : http://canvas.minitokyo.net/ -- obvious! She hasn't any activity, but hey, she's the eldest doujin sis!

Vectorness : http://vectorness.minitokyo.net/ -- Quoting from their page, "...a Minitokyo group dedicated to what else but vector artworks! They can be for wallpapers, sketches, or any other applications."


Art Groups that *May* Support Doujinshi in the Future:

http://celestial-luminesse.minitokyo.net/ -- To quote from their page, under 'Description and Purpose': "...We currently arent accepting doujinshi right now, but maybe in the future. ^-^"

http://dreamscreation-doujinshi.minitokyo.net/ -- abandoned for the moment, it seems

http://mobilesuit-doujinshi.minitokyo.net/ -- abandoned

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  • Sep 06, 2006

fireflywishes

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Wow chara that's a long list! Quite a feat to wade through the swamp that is the groups section... ^_^' Thanks for compiling it! :D

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MPhnx

MPhnx

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hmmm..... the mascot looks very familiar...
I feel like I've seen it outside of MT u_u
anyway....

charaznableamurorei

charaznableamurorei

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(2) Nya, fireflywishes, it's a labor of love! ^^^ And 'hurts the eyes and our internet bill, too... T_T But no worries! Thanks for the thumbs-up!

If there's anything weird about the proposed affiliation/support list - Art Group subsection thing above, just holler.

I'm reading up on the Miscellaneous group subsection... but 'sorry if I can't do the list as fast as the one above.


(4): Anjhu-sama! Sorry for the slowness... distractions! Sorry if I'll sneak in my display votes here! For b&w, Circle of Hands by MapleRose and for colored, All that pass through the sea by Carmen.


(3): MPhnx, 'did a little research on the MT Mascot thing, and, thanks to 'tip-offs'/posts there by frozenwilderness and ShiXon, I managed to come up with the incomplete research below. Do you remember seeing the mascot in the links below? Reposting here from contest thread:

Preliminary investigation on MT Mascot reveals:
- image named MT Mascot was fav'd by several denizens of the deviantART site (reference here)
- clicking on cached pages reveals that image was uploaded 10 March 2006
- image named MT Mascot mysteriously disappers from Kaze-Hime's virtual galleries... hnnn... ^^^
- "fan art" of Kaze-Hime's MT Mascot (^_~) can be found here

Minitokyo-side...
- 52 weeks ago, talks on making a MT Mascot started on MT forum here

As of 08 Sept (GMT +8), the moderators/admin have not given replies to some queries regarding details on the mascot's background history-herstory/name/etc.

Soooooo.... are we game at giving "artistic responses" to the MT Mascot contest? Even if it seems that the MT staff kinda failed at seeking help from MT doujinshi artists in concocting the mascot, would it hurt to show them support by responding to them via art? To play a little with a quote from EternalParadox's contest Introduction: "This contest, therefore, aims to harness the creative powers of you, the Minitokyo artist...", so let's show them what MT doujin artists can create! The responses may not match what the mods/admin wanted, but hey, it's our say as MT members-slash-artists, ne? Yay! ^^^ Wooo, speech time again, gomen!

If anyone's game, what about suggesting here on the thread what kind of "responses" we're going to give?

Also, maybe tomorrow, I might go bother doujin groups like Doujin-Arena, etc., and invite them to talk with us about our "Responses of MT Doujin Artists to MT Mascot" thing!

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  • Sep 08, 2006

Anjhurin

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Woohoo.... Now that's the kind of liveliness i want ^_^'

Anyway, chara, i have to scold you : the votes should have been 'secret' *whispers*.... Okay, so anyway, what we have here is 2 big ideas : first is the 'counter-strike from MT artists on the matter of the mascot'. Then is the 'year-round display'.
I suggest that we 'drop' the year round display for now, since we still have a lot of time to organize that (but we'll keep all the ideas in mind, of course).

So we focus on the 'counter-strike'. Chara, i must say that i really liked your idea of writing fanfics / background story for the Mascot. And if we get MT doujiners involved, maybe we could have them give their vision of the mascot (a brand new one of course !), and volunteering writers (possibly members from poetry clubs / writing clubs), be randomly given a doujinshi to write on !
Otherwise, they could just pick one mascot doujin they like and write on, but some might be left out.... Okay, now that sounds a lot like the class contest / caption writing, but i believe we could adapt it here ;)... or if there are other ideas ...


As of today, i have only received 5 votes PLEASE DON'T FORGET TO VOTE !

  • Sep 08, 2006

MPhnx

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charaznableamurorei: thanks for that. yes the name "Kaze-Hime" certainly rings a bell, in fact, I probably DA watch this user (not sure though). and seeing at the date, it's kinda make sense, maybe I did saw it on Kaze's gallery. thanks again =)

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