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Is Homosexuality Natural? Is Bisexuality?

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Shinsengumi89

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Yes my fellow Mt Citzens that is the question. Is Homosexuality Natural? Is Bisexuality Natural?

Your facts, opinions and thoughts....

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* I think you know my opinion. Go to wikipedia and find out who Kinsey is( i'm not sure i spelled his first name right).

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Well, I don't think homosexuality's an illness... I've known a lot of homo persons, whose are very, very inteligent and beautiful (unfortunately for me, a straight women, all my gay frinds are veeeery handsome... i_i). Nor bisexuality.
The natural tendency in the world's a man to like a woman. But these people aren't ill, just have diferent sexual options.

BobaFett2ha

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It is most certainly natural. However, it defeats the purpose of life (namely, to reproduce).

I don't blame anyone for being homosexual, because they really are homosexual, and if I was I'd be the same way. However, it is unfortunate (perhaps) that they are not able to propagate and thus be part of the evolutionary process.

"The ugly and thin cattle ate up the seven sleek and fat cattle." - Genesis 41:4

I think homosexuality isn't natural, but a behavior.

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I don't like Alfred Kinsey. He did some useful research and he was somewhat intelligent, but he was also oblivious to asexuality, for example.

Edit: And homosexuality is natural, yes.

Kasai

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Homosexuality/bisexuality is not something that can be cured or said to be an illness of any kind. In fact, it most certainly is not a behavior or a lifestyle.

Can you choose your sex? Your race? Your mother? Your eye color? And can you choose the person you fall in love with?

Love is a natural emotion for humans. So of course homosexuality and bisexuality is natural. The question is, is it normal for YOU?

But why should someone's own love life be something of importance to you?

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I suppose the question becomes how much does some given trait depend on genetics. Perhaps off-topic, but do pheromones alone determine which people you "love?" And if a male, say, only react to another male's pheromones, isn't that natural? To be honest, I don't know anything about Kinsey, but I would hope that sort of question is most pertinent.

My apologies if I'm offtopic or don't make sense.

My first response is to say that yes, it is natural. Which is why I got upset with my friend once, who assumed that all gays/bisexuals had a crap life as a kid and must have gotten beaten up by their parents or raped by their dad or some such.

tobiast88

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Yes, it's natural. Scientists have done studies and evaluate that any population will have from 5 to 10% of homosexual individuals. It's a natural behaviour, found in nature: male penguins have been observed nesting together in several zoos for example, and even in non-human controlled environments there have been confirmed reports of homosexual behaviour.
You can't choose who you love, and homosexuality is happening to fall in love with someone of the same sex.. And unfortunately, it's an event that carries a lot of social stigma because of an obsolete "morality".

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It's kind of genetic thingie. It's not anyone's fault to be like one...I think it could be a gift in some ways.

When we're children, ALL OF US are bisexual, until we're 18-20 years old. After that. you define your sexuality. After that, cientifically here are 15 grades of sexuality betwen male and female. I had sometime ago a herd of goats and sometimes there would be a pseudo-hermaphrodite.
Thougth I belong to an activist catholic group that works with children, and we're very carefull in these issues, because we don't want a child to feel angst or rejection just because he/she hasn't settled his/her sexuality yet. Just watch how boys and girls behave in groups.
Personally, I don't think there are two causes for homosexuality: one is genetical, the other phsyclogical. The problem with the last one, is that it could be caused by a traumatic episode, like a rape, or some malfunction in the family, like if a boy has a very weak father and a very emotionally strong mother. I've seen a lot of this. So, here you can say there is a "condition" that affects the child and the future adult, and that he/she mighth need help (if he/she wants it).

Homos and bisexual people are just humans, nothing more nothing less.

Haohmaru77

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Homosexuality is born from the development of a hormone in the brain... so it is natural... unfortunately, if everyone developed this hormone, mankind would cease, because the union of male and female is neccesary for procreating...

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tobiast88

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No one knows the cause of homosexuality. It has however been noted that in any population (or almost), there is a 5 to 10% rate of homosexuality. The prevalent theory is that the construction of one's sexuality is done by deriving from a bisexual "base" that exists from childhood. Gender roles and societal influences are supposed to have an effect, as well as certain chemicals and physiological phenomena found within the body, but I reiterate that no one knows the origin of homosexuality.
And this is perhaps better. There might be a programme to choose your child's sexuality if the mechanism is discovered in the future, with potentially disastrous consequences. It would be like choosing the gender of your child, or its height, and would lead to eugenics like in "Gattaca", a movie which explores the consequences of not being genetically enhanced at birth: "love children" are given menial jobs whereas children which are the product of manipulation are given the higher posts.

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I don't know if it's a natural or not to be attracted to someone of the same sex. ...But I know it's not what the function of the reproductive system is. ...That is for making kids, not shallow pleasure. (Yeah, yell at me because I said shallow. ...There will never be the depth that procreation brings with heterosexual sex between a committed husband and wife.) Having an inclination to have sex out of marriage is natural. ...I imagine homosexual thoughts are probably natural too. ...But just as you wouldn't jump off a cliff, just because you think it looks scenic/attractive, doesn't mean it's the way things are supposed to go.

Personally, I think homosexuality, bisexuality and fornication in general is wrong. ...But that's my view/lifestyle choice. ...It's also the perspective tought my most Christian denominations. Perversion of the gift of sex brings it's own evil, and IMHO poisons those who participate.

I will also add that folks shouldn't feel embarrassed or comdemned if they have these views. Just because they're experiencing temptation doesn't make them any less of a person, or any weaker. Everyone has their own set of traps.

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In terms of orientation and the human psyche to attain such desires, it is natural. But the thing is I hope they understand that the act of sexuality is impossible between same genders in terms of procreating. It's just not what nature intends to function. Satisfaction from such act is another thing. But bottom line is they are humans like anyother and should not be discriminated or condemned for having such sexual orientation.

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SebastianvonKane

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Natural, well yes. But the point it's that we were not intended for those likings.
Everything depends on the very point of view. The old excuse.

The only thing I oppose is the gay families. I'm not sure this may end up nice. I don't know how to explain this because and open mind means progress for many, but in human terms, being gay is not bad, but using this feature for discrimination against those DUDES, or if they offend normal people by the way they look, well, I don't think we're gonna die because of that.

It's ok for gays to be gays. But I do not endorse gay marriage.

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Its a choice and untill some one can show me the gene that says otherwise I will continue to say its a choice. For those of you that say it isnt, are you gay? Or have you ever asked some one who is? I'm not but I do have a large number of friends that are and they are greatly offended when people tell them it wasn't there choice to be how they are. People say it isnt a choice, but how do they know that? Even after you prove that there is a gene or somesuch that says your gay or not with out actually testing the person in question how do you know that in there case it wasn't a choice? Hell with out such a test how do you know its not a choice for straight people? People can talk about it as much as they want but untill some kind of acurate scientific test is found I question the value of such talks. Espessialy about such a volitile issue where even by trying to support some one you can cause such mental and emotional damage.

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Quote by MIREYAWhen we're children, ALL OF US are bisexual, until we're 18-20 years old. After that. you define your sexuality.

I'd love to know where you got this information. I'm a 24-year-old woman who knew in grade school that I liked boys. I wasn't taught that; I was taught that my mother would love me no matter what I chose. And I just liked boys. I knew a kid that was gay back in grade school and he kept it a secret until his senior year. One of my friends just announced that she was bisexual a couple years ago; it didn't come as a shock to me. I've taken several Psychology courses, in fact that's my major, and I'm really interested in getting my hands on the source of your information.

Quote by MIREYAtwo causes for homosexuality: one is genetical, the other phsyclogical. The problem with the last one, is that it could be caused by....some malfunction in the family, like if a boy has a very weak father and a very emotionally strong mother.

I'd also like to counter this point..Growing up, my father wasn't there a lot due to the fact that he was in the military. Therefore, my younger brother and I grew up with an extremely stong woman for a mother; she was a military wife, she had to be strong. Now, according to what you're saying, it can be assumed that you're implying that the issue here would be that my brother is homosexual, correct? Wrong. My brother is, in fact, a loner that has friends, both male and female. He was crushing hard on one of the girls and was truly hurt when he found out she was dating another guy. So, I'm sorry, due to what I've seen, I can't agree with your example.

Homosexuality, like so many have said here already, isn't a disease..something that can be "cured" or "fixed" or "prevented" through therapy, praying, or repenting. I don't care how many times you read that Bible, if you're gay, you're gay. For some, it's something you're born with; with others, it's possibly influenced from a childhood experience. Either way, I have no problem with homosexuals, bisexuals, or heterosexuals..I have friends of every nature. It's called tolerance, look it up. Fearing what is different from what you know or believe is, though human nature, a huge downfall. I used to joke that if I discovered I was gay, I'd be shit outta luck 'cause I can't deal with women for extended amounts of time...I've never been able to and, with the exception of a couple of girls, my closest friends have always been guys. I'd still rather hang out with a bunch of my husband's co-workers (US Marines) than be in a group of women who are all living up to the sterotype. But I'm off-subject now...Homosexual, bisexual, or heterosexual--all have the right to fall in love, have a family, and be happy. Just don't make out in front of me or tell me about your sexlife...Please, leave that in the bedroom.

Quote by Haohmaru77Homosexuality is born from the development of a hormone in the brain... so it is natural... unfortunately, if everyone developed this hormone, mankind would cease, because the union of male and female is neccesary for procreating...


Ya, I'm sure if everyone had homosexual tendencies humans would just sit around until they died, not working on anyway to reproduce without sex (not that females couldn't just get impregnated by sperm donors, but if we ignore that there's still other ways).

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Well, seeing as homosexual tendencies have been found in nearly all species of animals, I'd say that it's natural. Either that, or it's a rather suspiciously widespread aberration.

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Homosexuality is a choice and not weird. It's something in a person's heart and I for one know what it's like. I am bisexual myself and in my opinion everyone is bisexual, some may not even know it. The scale "Kisler" or whatever scale says that there is a scale (1-10, 10 being completely gay and 1 completely straight). Anyway, Kisler or whatever, says that not one person is a 1 or a 10. Everyone is in between that and where you lie (2-9) is your choice. ^^

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Quote by Kuro-kun15Homosexuality is a choice and not weird. It's something in a person's heart and I for one know what it's like. I am bisexual myself and in my opinion everyone is bisexual, some may not even know it. The scale "Kisler" or whatever scale says that there is a scale (1-10, 10 being completely gay and 1 completely straight). Anyway, Kisler or whatever, says that not one person is a 1 or a 10. Everyone is in between that and where you lie (2-9) is your choice. ^^


^ Example of why I don't like Kinsey scale. Some people don't have sexuality (OMFG RLY?!). I guess they're not human! =0

Athrun

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I always thought people look to their own gender when they've been hurt too badly by the opposite sex. But I guess it could be natural as well. Or they get raised that way?

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