Hi, BobaFett2ha:
Ok, he's a little bit radical in his thougts, but it isn't nice to call risingcrescent "stupid" for
his beliefs. He's muslim! For them, evolution doesn't counts! That deserves respect... unless he insults you
first. No, not even. I've seen this before...
Remember, an Islamic country (which one, I don't remember), not a long time ago, banned Pokemon. PO-KE-MON, you
heard that? Because, you remember, the little furs used to evolve...
Whatever.
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will never, for as long as life exists, stop discovering new species. This is
predicted--indeed, guaranteed--by science, specifically the theory of evolution by natural selection. Aside: and as far
as I know, the appearance of new species isn't predicted at all by Christian creationist theology. Correct me if
I'm wrong.
Man, it's not that way. But before we go to that, the Creationist theory is fiercie defended by some ramifications
and sects devired from the Evangelic churchs, in the U.S.
To Catholicism, the disscussion is irrelevant. Science and faith don't have necesarely to opose. Unless you are a
80-year-old lady. For me, I'm both Catholic and an evolution fan.
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assumption of God, however, is a complete non sequitur. It has nothing to do with scientific theory--i.e., how we
explain the universe. So, your example of unknown species is actually a necessary component of the theory, while the
assumption of God is unnecessary. Thus, to obtain an elegant and simple theory, we just discard the unnecessary
assumption.
See? The example was not to defend that new spieces won't appear. Of course they'll appear! The example was to
express that an entity is something that already exists, or could exist. The new species example was to set that
something we don't know if exist for certain, but we suspect it can exits... then when discovered, we truly know it
exists.
What did I just wrote?
Well, translated it means that direct knowledge is not necessary for something to exist. Existance is independent of our
previous knowledge.
We can imagine that there's life in Mars, and surely something will be discovered... but rigth now we don't
have direct proof, just the idea. So, if you have in you head the idea of God, angels, or demons, there are chances that
they could exist, by definition of "entity".
Of course anyone can imagine a pink unicorn with wings whering a ballerina, but here we're talking about an idea
generalized in all Humanity.
Quote: I still don't understand what gives you the idea that the
chances of existence of an afterlife are equally likely and unlikely. Someone else want to help explain (from either
side)?.
Like a casino! On what chances would you put your money on? No mathematian would say 100% existance - 0% nonexistance.
Why? There's no direct proof that God exists. For the same reason, you can't deny it either, because nothing
proofs that God doesn't exists. Remains as a theory. The same as afterlife.
If you only have two choices, it's 50-50. Like a coin. Or like the sex of a non-yet-born baby.
Only that here, you don't put money, you put your beliefs and life.
Quote: How is this related to the thread topic? It sounds like you're
talking about my particular purpose as an individual. If I understood correctly, the topic of this thread is the
(apocryphal) assumption of an absolute purpose for the existence of the human species. These two are completely
unrelated.
I can arbitrarily create goals for myself to work towards, or let goals develop and emerge through my environment, and
call these my purpose in life. However, no person can affect the "absolute purpose of
humankind".
That's because your life and my life, your thougts and mine, your illusions and my illusions, dreams, work,
emotions, feelings, yours, mine and the other's people ARE Humanity.
We're beyond the point of just being creatures interacting with nature... well, unfournately. I'll grant that.
But Humanity is here to make a better world. A better yet Humanity.
No, wait, I'm not nuts. You may believe it or not, but whatever you do to your sorroundings, to the people arround
you, counts, no matter how small. Yes, there are people destroying nature and people destroying people... but your
goodness, my goodness, our goodness... counts: "To educate a child is to educate the future". Planting a
three. Adopting a lost kitten...
Man, it's almost midnigth and I'm tired. And yes, I'm kind of a "Catholic Humanist". It's
a personal phylosophy. Our reason to exist is deeply engaged to the sum of our personal phylosophies.
The coin of the future of Humanity is in the air... which side will it fall? Destruction? A better world?
See you around... perhaps a lot later. My PC's broken :(
P.S. I can't imagine a life with Pokemon banned forever...
