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After seeing Athrun in Destiny... do you guys think Cagalli deserves someone better?

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maybe yes

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Maybe! I still want Athrun end up with her, but if Athrun remains the same ignorant perosn, as he used to be, with her feelings, I prefer her to find someone better. Yet I'm still loyal to AsuCaga (mostly to Cagalli) -_-

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Quote by ealpha-scorpioMaybe! I still want Athrun end up with her, but if Athrun remains the same ignorant perosn, as he used to be, with her feelings, I prefer her to find someone better. Yet I'm still loyal to AsuCaga (mostly to Cagalli) -_-

I agree with you! I'am a huge Asucaga fan too, but if Athrun keeps acting the way he is in Destiny (I really want to kill him) then Cagalli needs to move on and find someone that knows what he wants and will stay by her side 4eva. (I will always stick by Cagalli's side :) )

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I'm a big Athrun x Cagalli fan. And even tough I did enjoy Destiny, I'm not blaming one person here, but a lot of characters got screwed over. Especially Cagalli.

And I would also like to say that Athrun had a problem with being indecisive person in SEED, but he was suppose to overcome that. And it did look like that in the earlier part of Destiny, but then it's apparent that he's still the same indecisive Athrun in SEED, if not more so. It was basically like he was being difficult. And I'm no Athrun hater, I just wish they left his indecisive days in SEED. And at the end of SEED he finally did make decisions! But as for Cagalli, meh... I feel really strong abotu Asucaga relationship. But then again I don't know, just look at the guy Cagalli left Athrun for? I mean if its between Yuuna and Athrun... I'm voting for Athrun all the way!

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errrmmmm....... this topic is really getting very old now so im not gonna have any comment on it

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? Well, someone better than Athrun, who is he?
Well, I love both Athrun and Cagalli and I don't want they to be ruined so I vote for Athrun always..I do hope Athrun will always be Athrun and vice-versa for Cagalli

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Quote by toumarie? Well, someone better than Athrun, who is he?
Well, I love both Athrun and Cagalli and I don't want they to be ruined so I vote for Athrun always..I do hope Athrun will always be Athrun and vice-versa for Cagalli

We don't know about him! :) We just want to know what will others feel about her moving on with another guy. That person might be among the old characters or meybe the new ones. Just like Meyrin Hawk! As much as the're a possibility that Athrun would end up with Meyrin, I don't think the other way happens to Cagalli. She's just too loyal to Athrun AND her Nation. The other guy will have a hard time courting her while Athrun was first to win her heart. But, inwardly, I feel if this ever happens, Athrun will have hard time letting her go! It'll be very challenging for him to see her with another guy and watch her render the same affection (that she used to give him) to the-other-guy. After all for two years he was the one and only man in her life. (Everyone would feel a bit selfish in that case)

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Nope.I prefer Cagalli with Shinn!They will become a funny couple.Then Athrun try to get Shinn from Cagalli. Final, Athrun killed Cagalli and he coupled with Shinn. What a...

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Quote by lelouchiNope.
1- I prefer Cagalli with Shinn!
2- They will become a funny couple.
3- Then Athrun try to get Shinn from Cagalli.
4- Final, Athrun killed Cagalli and he coupled with Shinn.
5- What a...

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#1 Not a bad idea. But I still prefer someone more rational than Shinn Asuka.
#2 Yeah they will! They're going to fight all the time and disagree on almost everything!
#3 I guess that will be the other way around! ^_^'
#4 Athrun would never kill Cagalli even if he liked Shinn more! If ever, he will end up killing Shinn instead!
#5 ?

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athrun deserves SOOOOOO MUCH MORE than cagalli, IMO cagalli is whiney about how she addresses her problems, and i hate that characters personality (the lets rely on the male for suport)

i recon asuluna would be the couple for athrun lol

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athrun deserves SOOOOOO MUCH MORE than cagalli, IMO cagalli is whiney about how she addresses her problems, and i hate that characters personality (the lets rely on the male for suport)

i recon asuluna would be the couple for athrun lol

That can be possible too. If you think it was more of Cagalli's fault and she did not put enough on her relationship with Athrun. (Which is very incorrect) Cagalli was whiny in GSD but not in Seed. That's one of the reasons that she attract many fans. Moreover, she stopped all that cryings as soon as things got in control. She suffered just like anyother person. People do whine and cry when they're stucked in hard times. (I don't want to repeat what she went through. Everyone knows that already).

I wasn't quiet able to understand that you don't like Cagalli's personality or her whining? Anyways if you hate her that cannot be helped and your opinion is very respected.

As for Luna vs. Cagalli, I suggest you to create a thread for that and see what other memebers think about it! :) I can predict the outcome even now!

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NO!
cagalli and athrun were destined together
but in gsd they weren't together that much
hmmmm.......
kinda looks like a cold relationship huh?

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No, because, Athrun and Cagalli, are, to say, the only really compatible characters for each other. If you stick Athrun with Meyrin, that's a death trap for Bandai; there are too many Asucaga loyalists.

But, you have to take both sides' viewpoints.

In a way, Athrun's poor decisions, in how he always converts sides, is for Cagalli, in some underlying way. He just wants to end the war, and although fickle, he goes about the best way he thinks of achieving this.

And, Cagalli, well I can't see what she did to not deserve Athrun.

They are too compatible to not be the final outcome, relationship wise.

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Quote by xxKurumiNo, because, Athrun and Cagalli, are, to say, the only really compatible characters for each other. If you stick Athrun with Meyrin, that's a death trap for Bandai; there are too many Asucaga loyalists.

But, you have to take both sides' viewpoints.

In a way, Athrun's poor decisions, in how he always converts sides, is for Cagalli, in some underlying way. He just wants to end the war, and although fickle, he goes about the best way he thinks of achieving this.

And, Cagalli, well I can't see what she did to not deserve Athrun.

They are too compatible to not be the final outcome, relationship wise.

I totally agree!

Please don't trash Athrun for making bad decisions! He gets himself confused so easily, because he wants to do everything perfectly right and, since there is no perfect sollution, he tends to end up thinking in circles.

Besides, let's think about Cagalli's poor decisions as well. She's trying to be realistic about running her country, but I really wanted her to stand up and fight for her love for Athrun!

That would have made an awesome episode...

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Besides, let's think about Cagalli's poor decisions as well. She's trying to be realistic about running her country, but I really wanted her to stand up and fight for her love for Athrun!

That would have made an awesome episode...


What do you think , Athrun would have done, if he was to decide for Orb's future along with Cagalli? Would he ever agree Cagalli chose him over his nation? Never! Even if Cagalli had asked him to help her making her final decision, Athrun would have never agreed with her chosing him over her nation. (Now this is not a trash about Athrun, is it?) He WOULD sacrifice himself and personal feelings for Orb, pertty much as like as what Cagalli did! :) Cagalli has less options compared to Athrun, since Orb will always be her top priority. Athrun on the other hand has more freedom, so it's up to him to stand beside her or leave.

And, Cagalli did fight for Athrun, by wearing his ring until she HAD to take it off for good. She was kind enough to surpass her feelings for him and grant him his freedom. The fact might enrage us, but she made a big sacrifice although she had suffered more that anyone else.

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I always liked the idea of them together. They're both good, strong people, but sadly their respective responsibilities got in the way. He's a warrior who would fight for her to the last, his entire heart devoted to her. They could have been great together, but there was just too much politics
Very tragic, indeed

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What do you think , Athrun would have done, if he was to decide for Orb's future along with Cagalli? Would he ever agree Cagalli chose him over his nation? Never! Even if Cagalli had asked him to help her making her final decision, Athrun would have never agreed with her chosing him over her nation. (Now this is not a trash about Athrun, is it?) He WOULD sacrifice himself and personal feelings for Orb, pertty much as like as what Cagalli did!

I agree.
Athrun is the kind of person who would put everyone else and their grandmother before himself. I love that about him. It's one of the things that makes him Athrun! :)
That's why I don't resent the reality of what happened between him and Cagalli. It's definitely very sad that they drifted apart, but that's the kind of reality the two of them have to deal with. They live in two very different worlds, after all.

I still would have liked to see an episode about Cagalli fighting to keep Athrun, even if it would not change the fate of their relationship. As you have said, Athrun would certainly resent Cagalli's choosing him over her country.

Or maybe I just like the idea of Cagalli clobbering him while yelling: "You great big idiot!" and the two of them blushing about it later. Athrun will look cute getting clobbered by Cagalli... :nya:

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Cagalli, I don't really blame her about the whole marriage thingy. She has responsibilities, and she only got married to Yuuna because she thought it would help. and she's under tremendous pressure to lead the country, esp since it's the country her father sacrificed himself protecting.

I don't like how fans blame her for asucaga breaking up. I think it's actually more of Athrun's fault, for leaving her and Orb just when she needed him the most (so she had to look to Yuuna for help), and rejoining ZAFT. And then continuously fighting against her, and telling her to stop doing what she's doing when they met on that island (god Athrun was so cold there. I thought he'd at least assure her or help her or something, but he just.. told her to stop fighting for her beliefs... it seems as if he doesn't like her anymore or something...) >__>

The ring scene, it was cute, but then it's like the writers changed their minds about it (they even changed the scene in the SE). Athrun's so irresponsible, giving her a ring then promptly leave her when she needs his help the most. And when he heard about her marriage, he just looked shocked, but not sad or anything. It's like he doesn't care anymore. =\

Personally I did like Asucaga in SEED, the island episode was cute. But to me, they looked to be more in puppy love than anything else. ie, they had crushes on each other, but just like most teen crushes, it doesn't last as long, and eventually fades away as they drift apart due to difference in ideals (like how I think Lacus and Athrun drifted apart).

I can't really see Athrun with Meyrin either, because Meyrin just has a crush on him, and he's just.. polite towards her. So I don't see them lasting long either.

I hope Cagalli can find someone she can be happy with, even if it's not Athrun. Athrun was her first love, but it doesn't have to be her only love. Same with Athrun. People's feelings change, they fall out of love, but can fall in love again.

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It's unfair to blame Athrun.

I blame the great many earth-shattering (quite literally) events that take place in Destiny. Athrun, after all, only joined ZAFT because he wanted a way to protect Cagalli, and his other friends. He just could no longer stand there, stripped of any form of power just because he is a Coordinator and not a Natural, and watch things fall apart. His true strength was being suppressed while he was living in Orb, going by a fake name just so no one would know of the scandal that the head of Orb was romantically involved with the son of Public Villain Number One.

I agree that Athrun was a little cold towards Cagalli when they met again in that part of Destiny, but I don't think he was aware of how he came across. His thoughts are always turned inward, trapped in his own confusion and uncertainty.

As we have seen in SEED as well, Athrun is not the kind of person who goes around looking for someone to help him. He doesn't want to burden others with his pain and tries to solve all his problems by himself.

This part of him has not changed in Destiny.

If anyone, even Cagalli, wanted to know what Athrun was really thinking that time when they met again, they would have had to drag it out of him, because Athrun doesn't just open up and talk about his feelings. He keeps them locked inside his heart. It takes something like him and Kira both nearly getting killed by Shinn to make Athrun admit what his real reasons were for rejoining ZAFT.

What I would have loved to see at the end of that scene, though, is Cagalli spontaneously punching Athrun's lights out and then dragging him back to the Archangel with her, so Athrun could be part of the good guy team again whether he thought it was the best way to end the war or not! ^_^

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From what I'm seeing, both sides are being blamed equally LoveBug, so you shouldn't be worry about Athrun much. I agree with MapelRose's reply. Athrun should have not left, in my opinion, no matter how confused he was. Or he could've gone with Kira. As I said weeks ago, the big question is "WHY DIDN'T he consult this with Cagalli?" Whether as a politician, or as his future wife. She HAD the right to know about it, just like any other person in a relationship has to (sepcially when you're engaged). In fact that was so incredibly sensless. To RE-enlist ZAFT WITHOUT telling her! That goes fair with Cagalli's sudden merriage to Yuna. At least Cagalli sent the ring to Kira (She did try and practically appologized about her actions in her letter, asking Kira to send her applogy and the ring to him), why didn't Athrun do the same thing? If he couldn't contact Cagalli, why didn't he call Kira and disclose the issue with him. Kira is his closest friend, and would definitely attend both side's interests fairly.

In the end, I just didn't get what was going on in MR. Zala's mind. He's so full of contradictions.

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I agree with you that Athrun should have told Cagalli what was going on.

I'm sure Athrun regretted not telling Cagalli about the whole ZAFT issue, but by that time there was no way for him to contact her or Kira. After all, he did not leave for PLANT with the idea in his head: "I'm gonna go rejoin ZAFT!" To his defence, he did discuss with her that he wanted to go to PLANT to try and correct the wrong his father's words had caused.

Since PLANT is way up there in outer space, I think it would be a bit difficult for him to contact her freely once he was there, plus there's probably a lot of red tape involved in contacting the leader of a nation. I don't know much about the Gundam universe's technology, but I don't think it would have been as easy as just picking up a phone.

The other side to this - why give her an engagement ring if he's going off to PLANT?
Athrun was afraid of losing her. He was aware of that Jona guy trying to get Cagalli to marry him, so giving her the ring was Athrun's way of trying to make sure she knows how strong his feelings are for her. Selfish? Sure, but people do selfish things when they're desperate to hold on to the things they love.

Why go off to PLANT at all if he's afraid of losing Cagalli?
We all saw how it upset Athrun that there were still people who supported his father's irrational way of thinking.
(You can see that Athrun's really upset when he starts doing suicidal things like trying to set up a Meteor Breaker all by himself using a damaged Zaku, while the rest of the squad has been called back so the Minerva can use its cannons.)
To get back to the point, why did he go back to PLANT? To try and fix his father's mess. In the first season already, his father's decisions have bothered Athrun, and being the complicated person that he is, Athrun blames himself for not being able to stop his father from escalating the war (remember ep42 from Gundam SEED).

So he wants to find a way to erase his father's mistakes.

Wow... talk about a complex character! But that's why I love Athrun so much!

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