Are you ok with the amount that players win per month ?

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galiphene

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So I posted it here because I don't want to talk about the sport, but about its consequences.
So, I'm very intrigued about, you, soccer lovers think about this :
I am not against soccer, even if I admit I'm not interesting in watching twenty-two players running after a ball while 90 minutes ...

But what "chocks" me is the fact that they are considered as something really more important than the rest of the population. For example, their salary isn't it a bit too big ? Winning more than 10 000euros per month isn't it ridiculous ?
I think that today, they play more to win this incredible amount of money than for playing soccer. Do they really take pleasure playing ? Or are they just interested in making themselves popular ?

Moreover, they are considered only as merchandises, not human ! For example, in France, Lyon wants a player (Chamakh) from Bordeaux, but the president of Bordeaux doesn't want to "sell" him for 7 000 000euros, just because he can make his team win. But if Lyon is able to offer, I think it's, 12 000 000 euros, he can go there. Where are their pride ? Where are their dignity ?

Aren't there too much 0 in their salary or price ?
What do you think about this market ?

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vatican92

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I'd say Tiger Woods make way too much money for a sport... that's actually barely a sport that only people with no lives play/watch
And for transfer activities, i think that's what it makes things interesting and I dont think players would want to stay in a single club all their life, especially in a crab garbage one. And even for the clubs, its a good way to circulate business and get money when they dont have much.

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galiphene

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Of course, it would be pitiable if the have to stay in the same club all their lives, but isn't it too much ? If they want to join the club, why do they ask for a such amount ? I know that money don't fall from the sky, but I really think that several millions is too much. Why do they need so much ? I really don't understand. Training equipments are so expensive ? Or is it simply because of players' salary ?

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Dude its just business and a lot of people prefer it that way instead of just giving and taking players. Buying and selling players are usually between 2 clubs although some players can request a transfer. They need millions because soccer makes big money and if players are good enough, they'll buy the players with millions. They makes millions each year, especially big name clubs who win championships and other cups and stuff. And they use that money to buy better players, improve their squad and win more championsips and gather more fans. If its a famous player, there will be more fan support and more chances of winning more titles which is basically good business strategy in the long run. And like I said golf wastes a lot more money paying players to play their gay games and they waste too much good land to make golf the boringest game (not worthy to be called sport in my opinion) on earth
Just compare the fans. Soccer has thousands of fans per game in a stadium all screaming and enthusiastic for the club they support and golf is just bystanders clapping at golfers make their swings.
I seriously dont understand how Tiger Woods is the highest paid athlete playing the boringest game on earth
Anyway nobody's that stupid to buy players with millions and tens of millions without expecting something in return. They buy and sell players because they have things in mind and because the players are worth the money. Just look at Christiano Ronaldo, he was bought for somehwere less than 20million (I dont know his exact price from 6 years ago) from Sporting Lisbon and was sold for 80million. You see my point? Good business

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galiphene

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Yeah, I don't understand why Tiger Woods win so much too for this boring sport...XD

Next, I understand your point of view, and understand better why they are paid so much.
But, I can't accept it XD. But it's because we don't see it from the same angle. In fact, I just see what the players win and the amount of money clubs have. I know they work and train really hardly to reach their level. But they're sports which are really interesting to watch but players don't win so much and they attract people too, like martial arts, cycling (even if it's rising), and others...I've just got the impression that now, players are more attracted by money than by the sport.

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Well you know if people can just play soccer for the fun of it, it wouldnt be as fun because they might not give it their best. Since money is on the line and since soccer players' salary depends on how well they play, they push themselves to unleash their full potential. If they played for free without the care of money they might not always give their best. Also all jobs consider their pay. Sometimes people might not have wanted to become a lawyer or a doctor but since it has good pay, they had to pick that job. Everybody has money in their mind whatever the job is. And as you say, some people pursue the teams with highest pay or the most prestige but how can you say that's wrong? If you or I was in their shoes, personally I would want to go to a big club and make the most money i can get. If you play with really bad club with really bad players, even if you want to play your best, you cant because everybody else around you plays bad and you cant improve unless you play with the best players and learn from them. That's one of the reasons players seek to go to a big club. Also think of their span of their jobs. Since they're athletes, they can only play until about 40 years old max. Most people quit somehwere around 35. And since they've been training to be a soccer player all their life, after their career as a soccer player is over, they have nothing much left to do in society. So I think its good for them to be paid a lot so they can save the money and start a business or something

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galiphene

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It's fun, I understand better now...But not entirely...XD

I understand perfectly that players want to improve themselves and that's the reason why they change club. But if good players don't stay in a team which is average, then, this team can't evolve because, if I've understood you well, players with a good potential will join a big team to improve himself, but if all good players go joining them, then, how can an average team evolve ? Average players need good players to improve themselves, right ?
After that, even if it's very difficult to reconvert themselves after their career, I don't think they need more than 10 000 000 per month to live until they die... I can assure you that you can live your entire life with this amount of money if you earn it only just a month or two...I know that live is expansive but don't exaggerate... It's only a good if they want to start a business...but there are not much...

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When there is such a big interrest in soccer (here in germany it is) an thousands of people want to watch the game then it's fair to pay then a lot of money and only the best player are payed very well

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i'm the only one that vote "no"

galiphene

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Yeah... But I don't want to vote on my own thread... And moreover, I think you've understood what I'm thinking about it... XP

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2nd one to vote no...
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Of course, it would be pitiable if the have to stay in the same club all their lives, but isn't it too much ? If they want to join the club, why do they ask for a such amount ? I know that money don't fall from the sky, but I really think that several millions is too much. Why do they need so much ? I really don't understand. Training equipments are so expensive ? Or is it simply because of players' salary ?

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Quote by zatchbeelOf course, it would be pitiable if the have to stay in the same club all their lives, but isn't it too much ? If they want to join the club, why do they ask for a such amount ? I know that money don't fall from the sky, but I really think that several millions is too much. Why do they need so much ? I really don't understand. Training equipments are so expensive ? Or is it simply because of players' salary ?

Why did you copy exactly what I wrote ? XD
Did you want to write or answer something about this ?

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it's all about business, and soccer is one of business which can make profit.
and i agree what foolie said, more people watching games, more income for players :)

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i am not a fan

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what the fuc*..

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