Lesson 3: Shopping; particles: "no" and "ka"; noun+ja arimasen

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Vocabulary

kore: this one
sore: that one
are: that one (over there)
dore: which one
kono: this...
sono: that...
ano: that... (over there)\
dono: which...
doko: where
dare: who
asoko: over there

enpitsu: pencil
kaban: bag (like a purse)
jitensha: bicycle
shinbun: newspaper
boushi: hat
hon: book
yasai: vegetables
tomodachi: friend

ikura: how much
~en: yen
takai: expensive
(o) kudasai: Please give me...
(o) douzo/doozo: Here it is
Doumo/Domo: Thank you

Grammar

"Kore, sore, are"
When we do not know the name of something, what do we use? We say "this thing" or "that thing" right? Such is the case with kore, sore, and are.

We use kore to refer to something close to you (the speaker)
Ex: Kore wa watashi no enpitsu desu.
This (thing here) is my pencil.

Sore is used to talk about something that is close to the person you are talking to.
Ex: If I was talking with Cheri-sama, I would say "Sore wa watashi no enpitsu desu"
That thing (in front of you) is my pencil.

Are is used to talk about something that is neither close to the speaker nor the listener.
Ex: If Cheri and I were in a classroom and someone had my pencil across the room, I'd say "Are wa watashi no enpitsu desu"
That thing (over there) is my pencil.

To ask about something:
Dore ga anata no enpitsu desu ka?
Which one is your pencil?

Notice how we use "ga" instead of "wa". Question words such a "dore" or "nani" cannot be followed by "wa". Thus, we use "ga".

"Kono, sono, ano, dono"

The same rules apply for this set of words. You use these when you want to be more specific about something.

Ex: Kono kaban wa ikura desu ka?
How much is this bag?

At which point the shop owner would say,
"Sono kaban wa sansen en desu"
That bag is 3000 yen.

And if you were talking about a bag on the other side of counter, well...
Ano kaban wa sanzengohyaku en desu.
That bag over there is 3500 yen.

To ask about something:
Dono kaban ga sanzengohyaku en desu ka?
Which bag is 3500 yen?

Particle "no"

As you may have noticed earlier in this lesson, we have started using the particle "no". "No" is a particle that connects two nouns.

Nakamura-san no jitensha wa asoko desu.
Mr. Nakamura's bike is over there.

Kore wa Hiroshi-san no hon desu.
This is Hiroshi's book.

Miya-san no tomodachi wa daigakusei desu.
Miya's friend is a college student.

Particle: "ka"

To form questions in Japanese, all you have to do is add "ka" at the end of the statement. Sometimes you may have to add questions words such as "dore", "dono...", or "nani/nan".

Firipinjin desu ka?
Are you Filipino?
Firipinjin desu.
I am Filipino.

Senmon wa nan desu ka?
What is your major?
Senmon wa bijinesu desu.
My major is business.

Noun + ja arimasen

In our last lesson we used the format or noun+desu to talk about our nationalities and ages. To reply in the negative to this form, we use "ja arimasen"

Bunjiro-san chuugokujin desu ka?
Is Bunjiro Chinese?
Bunjiro-san chuugokujin ja arimasen.
Bunjiro is not Chinese.

Senmon wa eigo desu ka?
Is your major English?
Senmon wa eigo ja arimasen. Seeji desu.
My major is not English. It's politics.
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Whew a long lesson, ne minna-san? Let's all practice what we've learned!
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The "Y" is the symbol for yen. ^_^

1. Shinbun wa ikura desu ka? (How much is the newspaper?)
2. Jitensha wa nisengohyaku en desu ka?
3. Dore ga sengohyaku en desu ka? (which one is 1500 yen?)

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Let's describe the people!

1. Mary-san wa nihonjin desu ka?
2. Smith-san wa nansai desu ka? (How old is Mr. Smith?)
3. Think up other ways you can describe what Takeshi and Sue are and are not.

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Tina18

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Sugoi lesson! Yoku dekita!

1. Shibun wa hyakuju (110) en desu.
2. Jitensha wa nisengohyaku en ja arimasen. Jitesnsha wa nimangosen en desu.
3. Hon wa sengohyaku en desu.

1. Mary-san nihojin ja arimasen. Amerika-jin desu.
2. Smith-san wa nijyunisai desu.
3. Takeshi wa daigakusei desu. Kankoku-jin ja arimasen. Nihon-jin desu.
Sue wa nijyusai desu. Konpyutaa gakusei desu. Igirisu-jin ja arimasen. Kakoku-jin desu.

Yatta, dekita! XD
Fun stuff.

Rizacaga: Tina, Tina tell Sungmin to get Kyu's pants for me pleaseee.
My milkshake brings Saber to my bathtub.

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Great lesson! :D

cheri-sama

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@ArrancarShana: Try answering. Don't be shy. If you think you're not sure, we're here to help you ^__^

merged: 01-20-2010 ~ 05:41am
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Akamichi

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1. shinbun wa hyakku ju en desu.
2. Jitensha wa nisengohyaku jya arimasen, nimangosen en desu.
3. genki no hon desu.

1. Mary-san wa nihonjin jya arimasen, amerikajin desu.
2. nijyuni sai desu.
3.Kimura Takeshi san wa Nihonjin desu. nijyuni sai desu. senmon wa bijinesu jya arimasen, rekishi desu.
Sue san wa irigisujin jya arimasen, kankokujin desu. nijyu sai desu. senmon wa kompyuutaa desu.

cheri-sama

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Quote by Tina18Sugoi lesson! Yoku dekita!

1. Shibun wa hyakuju (110) en desu.
2. Jitensha wa nisengohyaku en ja arimasen. Jitesnsha wa nimangosen en desu.
3. Hon wa sengohyaku en desu.

1. correct. But don't forget the double 'uu' of juu. My sensei's always correct me.
2. Correct. You can also omit the subject.
3. correct. but it's more on: hon desu.

Quote by Tina18
1. Mary-san nihojin ja arimasen. Amerika-jin desu.
2. Smith-san wa nijyunisai desu.
3. Takeshi wa daigakusei desu. Kankoku-jin ja arimasen. Nihon-jin desu.
Sue wa nijyusai desu. Konpyutaa gakusei desu. Igirisu-jin ja arimasen. Kakoku-jin desu.

1. almost correct; don't forget the particle 'wa'.
Mary-san wa nihonjin ja arimasen. :)
2. correct. just don't forget 'uu' on 'jyuu' ok?
3. All about Takeshi is correct. BANZAI!
Sue: a few corrections:
nijyuusai
Konpyuuta no gakusei desu.
but, I think the sentence is much more like: senmon wa konpyuutaa desu. ^__^

sugoi na~!
Omedeto Gozaimasu ne~! Tina-chan!


Quote by Akamichi
1. shinbun wa hyakku ju en desu.
2. Jitensha wa nisengohyaku jya arimasen, nimangosen en desu.
3. genki no hon desu.


1. corrections: hyaku juu en
2. correct.
3. correct.

Quote by Akamichi
1. Mary-san wa nihonjin jya arimasen, amerikajin desu.
2. nijyuni sai desu.
3.Kimura Takeshi san wa Nihonjin desu. nijyuni sai desu. senmon wa bijinesu jya arimasen, rekishi desu.
Sue san wa irigisujin jya arimasen, kankokujin desu. nijyu sai desu. senmon wa kompyuutaa desu.


1. correct.
2. a few corrections: don't forget 'uu' in 'jyuu'. 'jyu' and 'jyuu' have different meanings ^__^
3. Kimura Takeshi: correct! Sue: correct!
Akamichi-san, sugoi na~!

Thanks for the answers people! More to come!

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FaLux

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Question:Is there another Question words except dore and nani?

merged: 01-29-2010 ~ 05:23pm
I mean those question word that we need to use "ga" instead of 'wa"

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@FaLux: "Dare" (pronounced: dah- ray) is another one...

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1.shibun wa hyakujyuu en desu
2.jitensha wa nisengohyaku en ja arimasen. jitensha wa nimangohsen en desu.
3.sono hon ga sengohyaku en desu.

1.mary-san wa nihon-jin ja arimasen, kanojo wa amerika-jin desu.
2.smith-san wa gohyakusansai desu.
3.takeshi-kun wa daigakusei desu.karewa no senmon wa bijinesu desu.
sue-san wa nijyuunisai desu. nihon-jin ja arimasen, mareeshia-jin desu

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