Minitokyo or Anime Paper?

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I'm still really sore over a bad experience I had over on Anime Paper and I was completly shocked by the different attitude over here. I was just wondering, between here and there, which site do you perfer and why?

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Hi there, SquirrelLuvsPnut!

Hmm... Now I'm suddenly not sure if bringing up such a topic here might be a good idea, but nevertheless I'm gonna commend you for being bold enough. It just worries me that we might end up offending people along the way, if you know what I mean. Of course by bringing this up, it's not about inciting a fight between two sites that provide quality scans and artwork (by saying this, we want to show respect towards the two, too).

To answer your question, I prefer Minitokyo from the very start (not because I'm here on this site right now or what), because simply put, I love MT's user interface. I mean, it's easy to navigate around here, and for some reason, I saw more organization here when it comes to forum posts. And I remember the forum post about reasons why you love Minitokyo, just thought I wanted to segue that (apparently I agree with almost every reason posted there by MT users; hope that forum discussion is till somewhere). XD And I find people here friendlier and more accommodating.

Anyway, I also have an account at AnimePaper. Their papers system is quite interesting. But I've also had a bad experience there, like they deleted one of my scans because the report stated there was too much text (but when I look at other scans, they look worse text-wise than my deleted scan). It was quite disheartening, so I've stopped logging in there. :( Mind sharing what bad experience you encountered at AP?


That was just my humble opinion, guys, based on experience too. I just hope I didn't offend anyone. >.<

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Yea, as long as this doesn't become an attack thread (READ: BE CIVIL AND RESPECTFUL!) this is a valid thread for the forum. I'm not a member of AP, so I can't really participate in the discussion here, but I've checked it out once or twice.

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Yes, I didn't plan on this being an attack thread, but I would understand if this get's deleted. I was just wondering how other people felt. I find this site to be a bit more friendly and better for scanners all around. One of my favorite aspects is that if one of your scans is deleted, you can appeal without being attacked and you can get a little more insight on why it was taken down.

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I am a member of both sites and I left AP a short time ago. I just don't like how the people there treat other users and if you don't upload anything and just post you're even more bothered, there's also trolling everywhere and it seems that the mods there don't really seem to care like they do here. I mean some trolling is bound to happen on any site, but this site the people are friendlier and kinder over all. even if the staff here doesn't monitor things before they are uploaded, the things here tend to be better as well. I don't know what AP has become but I tend to avoid "bad places" and that place certainly has the bad seal of approval.

to be honest, the time I was a member there I wasn't really on there much due to start of their meanness and carried onward. it just wasn't the type of site I wanted to spend time on like I do here on mt. but this is just from personal experiences from being a forum goer, I've seen how scanners/others are treated differently as well. over all MT rules !

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I agree completly. It seems that the mods here, tend to take their jobs more seriously and are willing to compromise. I thought that perhaps it was just me, but it's comforting to know thatb I wasn't the only one to get a bad deal over on AP.

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Personally speaking, as a member of both websites I enjoy them both for several different reasons.

There are things I like that are done on AP and there are things I like over here. Even with being a moderator over here, I still frequent AP and take part of the community. I say more power to the diversity and if we can build off of each other and grow from things, then that's fantastic.

Yes, I am staying neutral.

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  • Aug 01, 2011

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I have an account on AP, but I always liked the community here more <3
MT and I just clicked~

I visit, not even lurk, AP regularly and submit all the same stuff but I come here to hang out and work <3 so I don't really contribute to the community there, bc I never got personal with anyone, not bc of some bad experiences (if I had any I forgot all about them).

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I have to agree with angelxxuan and Yamibou on this one.

I have an account on AP, as well and while AP has its good points (mainly concerning contribution and earning/spending papers that way), I have to say that I like the MT community more. I simply have more fun here and it's easier to get along with people. That's not to say there's no drama here either because that's hard to avoid anywhere, but somehow, I feel more at ease here. One of the things that bug me the most is the new rating system on AP (or rating systems in general because they only seem to generate 'pressure to be the best' on most people I discussed it with) because it kind of stopped paying attention to the quality of wallpapers and focuses more on the number of downloads and how much a wallpaper is 'in demand' which, again, isn't necessarily related to quality. I also agree with the statement that MT interface is easier to use and navigate through.

These are just my personal opinions and experiences but I guess it's safe to say that, while AP will always be the first walling site I joined and will always remain an important aspect regarding that, I prefer MT more.

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Cyanide is tiptoeing past a minefield in this thread.
AP has too many try-hard trolls that just make the community boring. Right? Right.
On topic: MT wins just because of past reasons stated above, there's really not all much I can comment about on forums like this other than the fact of how one was treated. I'm not all on the bandwagon that AP's community is worse than MT's.. but it's that MT's community is different in such a way you'd rather stay here than over there.
I blame the Mods for that.
I also blame all the Loli's.
Which leads me off to why all Loli must be destroyed.. but that is a story for another thread.

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i found anime paper felt restrictive and well it dident seem very friendly i found minitokyo more friendly and respectful to its users mainly because it thrives on its users wether just posters or just art submitters or both here were all juged by how we represent ourselves and i found over at AP it seemed that your judged on if and what you submit

i dont meen to put it down or anything but i like places who treat you for you

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I joined AnimePaper and Minitokyo in the say manner - I registered and suddenly abandoned them both; and didn't visit either for months. When I came back to MT, I found it very easy to get used to/become part of the site. However, when I came back to AP, I wasn't as interested. Furthermore, I really, really dislike the layout for AP, I have such a difficult time navigating through it and the prospect of having more user-page editing options on MT is enticing. I do like their credit/achievement systems and the wallpaper quality on both AP & MT are fantastic, however, I just found it easier and more rewarding to spend my time on MT. I haven't spoken to too many people on AP, so I can't agree with those who state that it's less friendly.

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I've been a member at both sites for nearly 2 years now,

Differences (all in my opinion, need I add?)
Some of these may not be BIG differences, but slight leanings in tendencies

mods being interpersonal/personal --- AP not so much, MT, more so.
mods being emotional v. logical -----AP less emo, MT more so.
**^^ -- those above two can be positive/negatives depending on situation, a more 'emo' place might be more flexible/friendly, but
downside if if they take a dislike, you are with the fishes (metaphor & hyperbole, but ya catch my drift maybe?)
-- the logicals less likely to warm, but less likely to take out a personal vendetta no matter how much they seem to
personally dislike you, not as likely to be subject to someone's personal crusade
-- but those are both generalities, and there are prob people w/overlaps @ each site...
site-run-w/eye-to-profit/business -----AP more so, MT not as evident
scan acceptance ------AP more picky, MT variable, but usually not quite as bad.
users-being-trusted ------AP less so (they have to approve all scans 1st), MT - start/w/accept , then toss (or not)
sex-dominance ------AP seems more masculine-influence in admins, MT more feminine influenced
(neither should be taken, to be mean to completely positive nor negative -- they both have strong points and archetypal bad ones)
age group -------AP seems like admins are older group (not like >30, but older than on MT!...by ~ 2-5 years.
users age group(s) -------AP's bell curve seems to be 'higher' in age, and MT seems more welcoming to younger.
(BTW, both the age and sex dynamics seem to tie into slightly different stereotypes and/or generally held 'rumors' [beliefs?] in one or both groups.

Anyway - you can see both are different and have plus'es and minuses that will appeal to some more than other depending on the person.
Myself, depends on which side of the bed I get out of that morning... but i like them both!

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i've been a member of AP since 2008, and i just joined minitokyo yesterday. i already like minitokyo better. i'll outline the reasons in list form to make it easier to read.

1. AP seems dead as of late: there are less than 20 new wallpapers submitted per week (and that's on a busy week). there seems to be alot more parity here, and i've only been a member for 20 hours at the time of this post.
2. Minitokyo seems to load faster/easier than animepaper's. but there is more on content on MT's homepage. just try to open 20 tabs of MT pages, and try the same for AP (your browser will crash with that many AP tabs open).
3. AP charges for their downloads, and MT doesn't seem to charge for wallpaper downloads? the paper system is nice in theory, but ultimately the site's owner just wants to make money.
4. at the time of this post, AP has just a tad bit over 20,000 wallpapers, while MT has over 47,000 (if i remember correctly). of course i realize that many AP wallers post their stuff on MT as well, but there are many wallers that exclusively post their stuff on MT. and not many vice versa.
5. finer customization is allowed on MT's user homepage. I can turn off shoutbox and other things if i want. i can finetune how many new pictures/scans/walls i can see each time.
6. the administrators on AP are miserable people. this is not coming from personal experience, but what i have observed from watching shoutbox. they flame new members and seem to take their worldly anger out on other members as well. which is why i would like to turn off shoutbox in AP (if i could).
7. i mentioned before that the quantity of wallpapers is larger on MT, but i would also like to stress that the quality of the wallpapers on MT is slightly better as well. again, i reiterate the fact that u can find the same walls on both sites, but the ones that are on MT only are way better than anything you can find on AP.
8. i am in no way an artist/waller, but i can already tell that MT has a much more open mind when it comes to submissions of scans/walls, etc. AP only allows what they deem acceptable on their site, which is understandable, but they ultimately are being unfair.
9. there is more to do here on MT than just picture-mining. AP forums are dead and like i said before, AP shoutbox is just unfriendly overall. don't think i need to elaborate on that.

well that's all i can think of for now.
a few things about me, to better know where my reasons are coming from.
i used to download walls in 16:10, but now 16:9. i have found more selection here on MT, in any ratio size.
i have donated to AP
i check for new walls at least once a day on AP, but will likely switch to MT
the only thing i like about AP is that they auto-name their picture files in an organized manner, and they have infinite scrolling through pictures.

all in all, if somebody asked me where they should go to find anime wallpapers, i would point them to MT, and not towards AP. period. sorry if i offend anybody who really likes AP but the reasons i gave are my honest opinions. but the ultimate barometer in which to judge the MTvsAP discussion would be by pure numbers: look @ picture count and membership of the two sites, and they speak for themselves. pay for wallpapers, or don't? the choice is easy for most.

  • Oct 31, 2011

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I Like both, though AP's SB sure went down hill. It's infested with annoying trolls who think they're almighty with the number of memes they can recite and torture people with. And this is coming from me, a die hard meme lover.

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I have an account on AP but I rarely visit now, but I always liked the community here more <3

I don't really contribute to the community there; I have a few favs on walls/scans and such there but only because a member who's a friend of mine posted a wall there and I wanted to give him some support. Though I guess you could say he got double support because he submits his walls here as well, so I fav and comment here. I also never got personal with anyone, though it wasn't because of any bad experiences, I just never did for some reason. I prefer MT.

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Hi guys, some of you will know me if you're members of AP. If not for those of you that don't know me I'm a long term member of AP and also SB Moderator.
If there are suggestions as to how the Shoutbox could be improved, I'm more than willing to listen guys.
Legitimate suggestions appreciated.

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(Not sure if this thread will be closed, but still posting anyway.)

Having been a member of both since 2006, I prefer MT. I'll be going by situations I've personally experienced:

1. AP is more gallery-oriented, while MT also caters to the forum part. While there's a lot of activity on some people's guestbooks, I found the forums...uh, how should I say this...not that well organized. They didn't feel as user-friendly as the MT forum.

2. I find (personal opinion!) the walls on MT to be of a higher quality than those posted on AP; this used to be the other way around. Though this might be a result of newer, less PS-savvy members joining the community and older ones leaving (jobs, school, personal life etc.). I'm not saying all recent walls are low-quality (because some are brilliant), but most are.

3. MT manages its tags and categories better. I love the fact that here you can add your own tags and then head on over to the TagAdmin thread to have them processed properly. Sure, there are cases of mistagging, but there's a dedicated team of taggers which takes care of repairing stuff. I requested a category to be added on AP (via forum thread) 2 weeks ago and haven't received a reply yet; here, it's a matter of hours (or, at most, a day) before your request is processed.
Not to mention the fact that on AP you can have 5 tags pointing to the same object/character and no way to see which tag is the "official" one. It's also difficult to find images - if, say, you want to look for a scan of a water fountain, you won't find many (if you find any at all) because they aren't tagged as such). And when I tried adding tags to gallery items (not my own) a while ago, I was restricted from doing so; I haven't bothered to see if I can add tags again, because there would be no point in it anyway.

4. The mods* here are far more friendly - though I like some of the mods on AP, I find the ones here easier to talk to.
* AP doesn't have Elite Members like MT, so I left them out of the comparison.

5. I agree with Sol on this one, I just don't like AP's layout. There's a LOT of scrolling to do and it just strikes me as overly simplistic. And I love minimalism, so that's saying something. Also, too much white is boring.

6. Ecchi scans - both MT and AP are guilty of this, though AP moreso. Now I'm one of those people who're for either proper clothes or full-blown hentai (I find things in between useless and boring, unless they're artsy *pretentious*). On MT I have the option of hiding ecchi content; on AP, on the other hand, I'm greeted by T&A whenever I happen to scroll too far down the page. It's gotten to the point where I can't even browse it with my parents in the same room, else they'll think I'm looking at porn.

Overall I'm more of an MT-er than an AP-er. I just go to AP to post walls and download stuff; I don't talk to a lot of people there because we're part of other communities where we talk more than on AP. And, well, I wouldn't be heartbroken if I couldn't visit AP anymore.

I hope I didn't come across as too aggressive =.=

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