Group layout doesn't show when logged out

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aozoraskies

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As the title says, I've noticed that some group layouts don't show up when we're logged out.. Specifically this one.

I've experimented a bit, and if I cut off a big amount of the codes, the layout codes can go into effect when viewed offline.
So, It appeared that when your css + html combo gets really long (and goes over a certain character limit, I suppose?), this happens.. >_<

But it doesn't always seems the case either?
I compared my sets of group codes on Notepad -- this group's set has 415 lines; doesn't show up.
Another has 616 lines; shows up fine. o-o
Yet another group has 427 lines; it shows up darn fine.

So, I'm confused...

Does anyone know a way to overcome this?

I would just condense the codes and make everything simple, but... I already customised all these little things so kinda reluctant ^_^;

It's probably not a huge issue, but it bugs me a little. I've notice that it happens to other groups like tag-licious , linguistics-team and vector-wallers .. And to a minor scale, moderators (the table codes don't work as fine lol).
Maybe I'm just nitpicking too much. lol

I hope someone can explain why at least ^^;

Thank you very much~

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While I'm no expert, I ran into the same issues that you did.

I assume you've probably checked over the code and made comparisons and contrasts and did some trial and error work too, so this would be a good question to ask anyone with sufficient CSS knowledge. Thanks for notifying us, AO! I'll ask the boss man about it.

To also offer you some advice, the recent layout you did for Minitokyo-Review shows up just fine.

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  • Oct 27, 2011

aozoraskies

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Thank you for replying, Cyanide! So it's not just my issue, phew.
I would appreciate some answers from the bossu, yup. :3

Glad the MT-Review layout works~ It did only have about 170 lines though, so I wasn't expecting trouble there xD. I haven't made a full comparison of the codes (there are lots >-<) and I haven't found a unanimous common factor either, actually.. lol researcher much?

Ah to note:
These codes include the html and group content in the line count. :3
If I exclude that -
DGM --> ~234 lines
APH --> ~213 lines
KZS --> ~382 lines

...So it might be length after all. ._. how shall I cut off a 100 lines, hmm.

EDIT: I-I chopped the css to 216 lines. It's still not showing. ._. Deleting all the css for div, posts and login has no effect unlike before. I'll just put it off as an MT bug then..

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This is intended behavior. Some group admins F up their userpage so much it becomes illegible for outsiders, however there is a little trick to go around it and you seem to have used it on Minitokyo Reviews ;)

The length of your html does not matter btw.

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._. ....I'm not sure whether to be proud that I manage to accidentally find a cheat around it, or cry because I don't know what I did more than once. xD

Thanks so much for replying, Sheqel! :3 So, it's not length. *ticks it off the list* Now I must find this cheat code >D

merged: 10-28-2011 ~ 03:29am
I HAVE FOUND THE MAGIC INCANTATION. and my gods, is it shamefully easy. xDDD

Now the question is: Should I tell? ;3

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Current fandoms: 999 (aka Nine Hours, Nine People, Nine Doors) // Dangan Ronpa // Persona 4 // Gakuen Kino --- From my cold! Dead! Hands!

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oohhh :D well u see, to be honest. when i'm not logged into MT i cant see any layout at all besides the default. this is true for every page i've seen. i thought that was just one of the new quirks of the site. @-@

but ah well, where you can't shine with layout, you can shine with content. i think "images" using <img> code and mp3 embeds are still see-able even when logged out. content matters too. so let's try decorating the actual content with stuff using <img> code and see how that works. if even that doesn't work then.. well.. it would be nice if the admins did something about it.

ah and the layouts are too good to pass up. it's a very big shame that such pretty layouts can't be appreciated by guests when a "pretty layout" could tempt people to joining the site (besides the fancy wallpapers).

Layout counts too, y'know.

though, this could be part of the fact that avatars also can't be seen when you're not logged in.
since i spent most of my useful days logged into MT, im not really sure about group pages. but i do know userpage layouts could be seen regardless if you're logged in or not.

ah i feel so old. but anyway, it would be nice if this was taken into consideration if not already. :D
*showers admins with <333333333333333333333333333333333333333333(...)
and *showers aozo-kun with x2 of <333333333333333333333333333333333333333333(...)
and *showers cy-san with biscuits. <3

P.S. - wha D: there's a trick to getting by that? hrmm.... intriguing. well i take back everything i said besides the biscuits then. :D

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I've fixed the page layout to appear offline too, Sel! At least, it does for IE, Firefox and Chrome, I think...
It's a rather simple code really. :3 I hope it can be seen by all because I'm tempted to do image-heavy things with the div codes. >o<
And yup those codes should still be see-able!

Ah haha, yeah the avatar bit is members' privilege >D. Member's layouts can still all be seen! And a couple of group's one too~ <3

And Sel~ <3 Try taking a look of the layout when u'r offline and tell me if you still can't see it!

We'll see how it goes, with the layouts on MT hehe.

"Catch on fire with enthusiasm and people will come for miles to watch you burn" ☆.。・ ψ( ^ω^ )ψ ・°☆
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Current fandoms: 999 (aka Nine Hours, Nine People, Nine Doors) // Dangan Ronpa // Persona 4 // Gakuen Kino --- From my cold! Dead! Hands!

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Since the question has been answered and nothing else of importance has been contributed, I'm closing this thread : P

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  • Oct 28, 2011

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