well, what do you think? There's a point where everybody makes a mistake of
doing something terrible in the past and...... It happen's to me Last
month!
It's also a warning. You
see, I have two Hard disk, a 40 GB maxtor w/ 7200 Rpm and a 120 GB Seagate w/
8mb cache, THATS the problem, it happens when I overclocked my Pentium 4 B 2.4
Ghz to 2.8 ghz.... and a few seconds later..... BANG! all i've got is a pretty
Blue screen of death showing in my monitor screen. *sigh*
all I thought was noting, so I've restared my computer and got a massage saying
that my Windows Registry Was Error! O_O
I've try to restared my computer, and the same problem was happen, But this
time, it showing some other code, and when I felt something was wrong, I touched
my Hard disk with hand, ouch! it's hot! I picked my thermometer from my storage
and it show stunning 80º Celcius (OMG!)
after I tried to cool down the hard disk with a Huge Fan <= that's silly....
I try to boot into my other Hard disk, with windows 98 on it and the fact that
windows 98 can't read NTFS <= *sweat*, so I try to used NTFS reader and found
that MOST OF THE DATA EITHER DAMAGED OR DESTROYED....
................but somehow a few Anime movie that nested on that hard disk
suvived (what the hell??!?!?) and few other "crucial" data still
recoverable---Phew~
After a while I found out that my 120GB Seagate easily get overheated if I
overclocked my Processor (!) and the fact that I didn't used Extra cooling and
causing the hard disk to unstably operating at stunning 80º
celcius, which means that "appearently" some of the Seagate model Hard
disk are get's quite easily unstable if overheated, from now on, maybe you MT
sould be careful about your hard disk, I feel's like being hit by a Tsunami
(LOL!) after lost my 80 GB of data (17GB survived) .
anyway, what I'm trying to say is, be careful when choose your hard disk, thank
you.
For this reason, I use a RAID for everything. EVERYthing. Hard drives are so
cheap now, and most motherboards come with (crappy but functional)
"hardware" raid-1 these days, and if not the controllers are so
inexpensive...
Time is money. In addition, data can be irreplaceable. I shudder to think of
how many artists on this forum have all their work sitting with no data
protection at all on some WD 40GB drive all by itself. Naturally though this
doesn't protect against things like overclocking...if your poor CPU is writing
corrupt data down the pipe, it's going to replicate that corrupt data to both
drives ;-)
It also doesn't protect against user error. I have twice so far (since 1998)
deleted my home directory or large parts thereof. The first time was like
this:
rm -rf somefilenames *
Whoops. Put a space there and it deleted everything. That wasn't so bad
because it was a machine I was experimenting with. The next time was the same
thing but a bit more humorous, this was only a few months ago. I was deleting
some partXX.rar files after uncompressing a bunch of stuff off Usenet, but I did
the space again...I thought to myself "Gee, this is taking a while to
delete just a few files", realized what I had done, ctrl-c out of it but it
was too late for about 1/3 of my stash of avis.
One other time was just sheer bad luck, or Murphy's Law, whatever you want to
call it. My devlopment machine had 3 40GB drives in a raid-5 setup. With
raid-5 you can lose a single drive and not lose any data. The machine had a
cheap power supply, which "popped" one day and, you guessed it, took
out two hard drives in the process. Lost everything :-/
i don't buy cheap power supplies anymore. But I do buy cheap hard drives, used
in fact, because I RAID everything :-)
I've lost nearly 100gb a few month ago.
My external hdd crashed (i don't know why) All the music, vids and other
thing.... lost :'(
But now, i recovered nearly all of my datas^^ I hope that such a thing won't
happen again
220 Gigs of work stuff....when I worked in the HR dept my computer was acting
up...called IT...they sent a workship (international student) to look at it...he
told me he had to log in and look around...I said sure and let him on....he then
said oops 10 minutes later...then told me he had to take the computer to the
comp lab in IT to have it looked at.....goomba was playing in the
registry..amoung other things and corrupted the system files.....he then asked
me if I saved my work...I told him all my work is only on the hard drive...he
said ok....4 days later I get my machine back....they formatted the hard
drive....but they didn't back up my stuff onto fileserver....I lost years of
work, including the orginizational charts for the university....those alone took
me 5 months to get them to where they were.....and some web image stuff and a
bunch of other stuff....
so yeah...it sucks
Sorry to say this, but that's the risk of overclocking. Hardware isn't made to
get overclocked and when you do, then all warranty is voided and the
consequences are all yours. You took a risk by overclocking and this is the
price for it. You can't possibly blaim your harddrive for being of a bad quality
since it is simply not made to stay functionating while you're pushing your
hardware over it's limits.
Every overclocker knows the need for extra cooling, the best of them are using
watercoolingsystems, so I assume you haven't got any experience on this area. I
hope you learned you lesson from this.
Don't blame your hardware, blame yourself. (No bad feelings, by the way)
Try losing 400 gigs of material repeatedly. A friend of mine`s computer(which I
use as well) has an 80 gig main, and two 200 gigs on a raid card. See, thing is,
the machine never gets turned off..and I mean never. Combine that with a
enclosed space its in, and I suppose it was inevitable(lets not mention the 6
flavors of P2P run on it)..
We`ve been through the 'crash-recovery' cycle three times now, and it still irks
me to think of the stuff Ive lost and probably will never get again. This is why
when I get some real money from this new job I have Im going to raid-5 a
multi-terabyte storage tower and use that to download everything, and then burn
it off as needed onto dvd`s.
Haven't lost that aumont of data, but thank you for the advice. Sometime I
formated the wrong partition! That was a big mistake but didn't lost anything important.
I lost a lot of memory when I used an old hard drive for my new computer. Went
out flat as ever and I lost everything I ever saved and worked on there. I
thought it was gonna be really hard on me too. *_* Posh, I felt so bad when I
lost 20 gigs off the spot.
But then, I re-started from scratch, got everything I ever needed on my new hard
drive and more! ^_^ Hehe - more is good. Far more, actually O_o - Well, anyways,
I'm going to get a new 160 GB Hard drive so I can back up some of my folders -
that way none of my data will be lost when it indeed does crash. Hehe, crazy me,
I know. But well worth the extra effort, for sure.
80gigs!?!? sheesh thats a bit much to back up on dvd right? I've never had a
hardrive fail on me, but i have lost irreplacable data (I was formating and i
was saying to myself, whatever i backup I must not forget to backup * folder...
en of course the ONlY folder I forget tobackup was the * folder), it's a real
pain isn't it? That feeling of utmost dread when you know you've lost some data
*argh*.
Well, I lost nothing like as much a few days ago. It wasn't as much, but it was
three years of 3D rendering work. I've only just got over the blank dead feeling
it induced. And all because someone formatted the hard disk of the computer it
was on. I don't blame them, they did give ample warning, it's just that I was
ill for ages, and so couldn't get to the computer to back the files up.
Irritating illness...
Yeah, I had an external HD that crashed on me one day, had over 200 GB of anime
on it. So I went searching the internet and found this nifty program that will
recover lost data. Its called: PC Inspector File Recovery. Works great. Got
all my anime back and rid myself of the bad sectors.
Dude, I've losted a good amount, not 80 gbs more like 20 gb worth of work. I've
lost all my first creations that I've made, along with just tons and tons of
media. I nearly collapsed when it happened. But its cool now since I've learned
to back up stuff every week.
I know how u guys feel. I remembered a few years ago I was just resizing my C
& F partitions o my HD partition magic fucked up and I lost all my data on
the C drive.
I've lost large quantities of data periodically. Sometimes on my computer,
sometimes on a friend's. It's probably been about 1/2 TB over the years. It's
been due to a number of causes including drive crashes, controller errors,
filesystem errors, my friend formatting the wrong drive ;;
etc. It's impossible to account for all cases and even RAIDs have their limits.
Which reminds me, some guy in another forum I post at lost about 1TB when he
was tweaking his RAID array.
It's generally annoying, but the moral of the story is to backup anything you
really care about. A DVD burner and blanks are the best way these days. They
have the cheapest cost per GB of any media and the writers are cheap. Not to
mention that DVD drives are becoming pretty standard on computers.
Quote by Jim3535A DVD burner and blanks
are the best way these
days. They have the cheapest cost per GB of any media and the writers
are cheap. Not to mention that DVD drives are becoming pretty standard
on computers.
Perhaps for you, but for others different back-up methods could be better. A
DVD-burner is no good to me, since I have too much data to back-up daily and I
already use a USB-harddrive and a second internal HD.
It's not what's the cheapest, it's what fits your needs.
Quote by FirefoxPerhaps for you, but for
others different back-up methods could be
better. A DVD-burner is no good to me, since I have too much data to
back-up daily and I already use a USB-harddrive and a second internal
HD.
It's not what's the cheapest, it's what fits your needs.
Indeed (I though it went without saying). I suppose I should have made the
condition of a 'write-once' media explicit. If you need frequent backups of the
same data, then a rewritable solution is probably better. Most people I know
just need to back up their collections of media and junk once. They generally
backup their documents elsewhere (another computer, network, USB flash drive,
etc.) since they are generally pretty small and need more frequent backups.
Jeez, that really sucks :S sorry dude. that has sort of happened to me before, I
lost whole pieces of coursework due to a virus. Wish i had backed up all my work
back then! Never mind....
Good luck getting your stuff back, I know it sucks!
I know how it feels.... I suffered from the same fate too... It's cruel.... my
stupid HD crash and I lost everthing that I've been collecting for 7 years.... I
was crying the whole day when it happend!! My brother even had to console me....
XO But I've learned my lesson.... Now I've back up all my files at least once
a week.
well, what do you think? There's a point where everybody makes a mistake of doing something terrible in the past and...... It happen's to me Last month!
It's also a warning.
You
see, I have two Hard disk, a 40 GB maxtor w/ 7200 Rpm and a 120 GB Seagate w/
8mb cache, THATS the problem, it happens when I overclocked my Pentium 4 B 2.4
Ghz to 2.8 ghz.... and a few seconds later..... BANG! all i've got is a pretty
Blue screen of death showing in my monitor screen. *sigh* 
all I thought was noting, so I've restared my computer and got a massage saying that my Windows Registry Was Error! O_O
I've try to restared my computer, and the same problem was happen, But this time, it showing some other code, and when I felt something was wrong, I touched my Hard disk with hand, ouch! it's hot! I picked my thermometer from my storage and it show stunning 80º Celcius (OMG!)
after I tried to cool down the hard disk with a Huge Fan <= that's silly....
I try to boot into my other Hard disk, with windows 98 on it and the fact that windows 98 can't read NTFS <= *sweat*, so I try to used NTFS reader and found that MOST OF THE DATA EITHER DAMAGED OR DESTROYED....
................but somehow a few Anime movie that nested on that hard disk suvived (what the hell??!?!?) and few other "crucial" data still recoverable---Phew~
After a while I found out that my 120GB Seagate easily get overheated if I overclocked my Processor (!) and the fact that I didn't used Extra cooling and causing the hard disk to unstably operating at stunning 80º celcius, which means that "appearently" some of the Seagate model Hard disk are get's quite easily unstable if overheated, from now on, maybe you MT sould be careful about your hard disk, I feel's like being hit by a Tsunami (LOL!) after lost my 80 GB of data (17GB survived) .
anyway, what I'm trying to say is, be careful when choose your hard disk, thank you.
For this reason, I use a RAID for everything. EVERYthing. Hard drives are so cheap now, and most motherboards come with (crappy but functional) "hardware" raid-1 these days, and if not the controllers are so inexpensive...
Time is money. In addition, data can be irreplaceable. I shudder to think of how many artists on this forum have all their work sitting with no data protection at all on some WD 40GB drive all by itself. Naturally though this doesn't protect against things like overclocking...if your poor CPU is writing corrupt data down the pipe, it's going to replicate that corrupt data to both drives ;-)
It also doesn't protect against user error. I have twice so far (since 1998) deleted my home directory or large parts thereof. The first time was like this:
rm -rf somefilenames *
Whoops. Put a space there and it deleted everything. That wasn't so bad because it was a machine I was experimenting with. The next time was the same thing but a bit more humorous, this was only a few months ago. I was deleting some partXX.rar files after uncompressing a bunch of stuff off Usenet, but I did the space again...I thought to myself "Gee, this is taking a while to delete just a few files", realized what I had done, ctrl-c out of it but it was too late for about 1/3 of my stash of avis.
One other time was just sheer bad luck, or Murphy's Law, whatever you want to call it. My devlopment machine had 3 40GB drives in a raid-5 setup. With raid-5 you can lose a single drive and not lose any data. The machine had a cheap power supply, which "popped" one day and, you guessed it, took out two hard drives in the process. Lost everything :-/
i don't buy cheap power supplies anymore. But I do buy cheap hard drives, used in fact, because I RAID everything :-)
no raid level can match human stupidity.
I've lost nearly 100gb a few month ago.
My external hdd crashed (i don't know why) All the music, vids and other thing.... lost :'(
But now, i recovered nearly all of my datas^^ I hope that such a thing won't happen again
80Gb? Feels half than when I destroyed my 160 gig...Which was full (not only anime but worf stuff, too
)
i managed to plug the molex plug on the PCI connector... I know, it's stupid, but it was 1 a.m. ...
Now, as soon as I have a mobo which accepts SATA HDDs I will set everything under raid-1
!
220 Gigs of work stuff....when I worked in the HR dept my computer was acting up...called IT...they sent a workship (international student) to look at it...he told me he had to log in and look around...I said sure and let him on....he then said oops 10 minutes later...then told me he had to take the computer to the comp lab in IT to have it looked at.....goomba was playing in the registry..amoung other things and corrupted the system files.....he then asked me if I saved my work...I told him all my work is only on the hard drive...he said ok....4 days later I get my machine back....they formatted the hard drive....but they didn't back up my stuff onto fileserver....I lost years of work, including the orginizational charts for the university....those alone took me 5 months to get them to where they were.....and some web image stuff and a bunch of other stuff....
so yeah...it sucks
Sorry to say this, but that's the risk of overclocking. Hardware isn't made to get overclocked and when you do, then all warranty is voided and the consequences are all yours. You took a risk by overclocking and this is the price for it. You can't possibly blaim your harddrive for being of a bad quality since it is simply not made to stay functionating while you're pushing your hardware over it's limits.
Every overclocker knows the need for extra cooling, the best of them are using watercoolingsystems, so I assume you haven't got any experience on this area. I hope you learned you lesson from this.
Don't blame your hardware, blame yourself. (No bad feelings, by the way)
That's the sole reason why I won't overclock. To lose a HD is insane especially if you have movies, etc.
Try losing 400 gigs of material repeatedly. A friend of mine`s computer(which I use as well) has an 80 gig main, and two 200 gigs on a raid card. See, thing is, the machine never gets turned off..and I mean never. Combine that with a enclosed space its in, and I suppose it was inevitable(lets not mention the 6 flavors of P2P run on it)..
We`ve been through the 'crash-recovery' cycle three times now, and it still irks me to think of the stuff Ive lost and probably will never get again. This is why when I get some real money from this new job I have Im going to raid-5 a multi-terabyte storage tower and use that to download everything, and then burn it off as needed onto dvd`s.
Yeah, I download that much.
Haven't lost that aumont of data, but thank you for the advice. Sometime I formated the wrong partition! That was a big mistake
but didn't lost anything important. 
Geez - I know what you mean.
I lost a lot of memory when I used an old hard drive for my new computer. Went out flat as ever and I lost everything I ever saved and worked on there. I thought it was gonna be really hard on me too. *_* Posh, I felt so bad when I lost 20 gigs off the spot.
But then, I re-started from scratch, got everything I ever needed on my new hard drive and more! ^_^ Hehe - more is good. Far more, actually O_o - Well, anyways, I'm going to get a new 160 GB Hard drive so I can back up some of my folders - that way none of my data will be lost when it indeed does crash. Hehe, crazy me, I know. But well worth the extra effort, for sure.
Nice, short, and to the point. I like it.
80gigs!?!? sheesh thats a bit much to back up on dvd right? I've never had a hardrive fail on me, but i have lost irreplacable data (I was formating and i was saying to myself, whatever i backup I must not forget to backup * folder... en of course the ONlY folder I forget tobackup was the * folder), it's a real pain isn't it? That feeling of utmost dread when you know you've lost some data *argh*.
Well, I lost nothing like as much a few days ago. It wasn't as much, but it was three years of 3D rendering work. I've only just got over the blank dead feeling it induced. And all because someone formatted the hard disk of the computer it was on. I don't blame them, they did give ample warning, it's just that I was ill for ages, and so couldn't get to the computer to back the files up. Irritating illness...
Yeah, I had an external HD that crashed on me one day, had over 200 GB of anime on it. So I went searching the internet and found this nifty program that will recover lost data. Its called: PC Inspector File Recovery. Works great. Got all my anime back and rid myself of the bad sectors.
Nothing can match the 780gb of my computer, haha!
As you say~
but me? even more stupid!
Dude, I've losted a good amount, not 80 gbs more like 20 gb worth of work. I've lost all my first creations that I've made, along with just tons and tons of media. I nearly collapsed when it happened. But its cool now since I've learned to back up stuff every week.
I know how u guys feel. I remembered a few years ago I was just resizing my C & F partitions o my HD partition magic fucked up and I lost all my data on the C drive.
I've lost large quantities of data periodically. Sometimes on my computer, sometimes on a friend's. It's probably been about 1/2 TB over the years. It's been due to a number of causes including drive crashes, controller errors, filesystem errors, my friend formatting the wrong drive
;;
etc. It's impossible to account for all cases and even RAIDs have their limits.
Which reminds me, some guy in another forum I post at lost about 1TB when he
was tweaking his RAID array.
It's generally annoying, but the moral of the story is to backup anything you really care about. A DVD burner and blanks are the best way these days. They have the cheapest cost per GB of any media and the writers are cheap. Not to mention that DVD drives are becoming pretty standard on computers.
Perhaps for you, but for others different back-up methods could be better. A DVD-burner is no good to me, since I have too much data to back-up daily and I already use a USB-harddrive and a second internal HD.
It's not what's the cheapest, it's what fits your needs.
First backup then experiment.
Indeed (I though it went without saying). I suppose I should have made the condition of a 'write-once' media explicit. If you need frequent backups of the same data, then a rewritable solution is probably better. Most people I know just need to back up their collections of media and junk once. They generally backup their documents elsewhere (another computer, network, USB flash drive, etc.) since they are generally pretty small and need more frequent backups.
Jeez, that really sucks :S sorry dude. that has sort of happened to me before, I lost whole pieces of coursework due to a virus. Wish i had backed up all my work back then! Never mind....
Good luck getting your stuff back, I know it sucks!
I know how it feels.... I suffered from the same fate too... It's cruel.... my stupid HD crash and I lost everthing that I've been collecting for 7 years.... I was crying the whole day when it happend!! My brother even had to console me.... XO But I've learned my lesson.... Now I've back up all my files at least once a week.